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[Report] Canucks fire Bruce Boudreau, Trent Cull; name Rick Tocchet as head coach, Adam Foote as assistant coach, Sergei Gonchar as defensive development coach

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1 minute ago, Crabcakes said:

Jeff Paterson is a ray of sunshine /s.  I'm pretty sure that Sukass and Price are pariahs to the Canucks as well.  I've honestly wondered why this didn't happen years ago.

I think someone mentioned that the guy on Twitter who posts videos on Youtube with his Canucks jersey on has more viewers and clicks than Sekeras and Price.  

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1 minute ago, Alflives said:

Do the media guys need to be working for a legit paper or radio/TV or something for them to have a press pass?  Maybe guys like Patterson and Suckhairass (sp?) got theirs pulled because they don’t qualify? 

Yeah I think you have to actually work for a media organization or else every random podcaster can get a press pass.

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2 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Do the media guys need to be working for a legit paper or radio/TV or something for them to have a press pass?  Maybe guys like Patterson and Suckhairass (sp?) got theirs pulled because they don’t qualify? 

Yeah, I don't think they actually qualify as legit media in Vancouver.  Brian Burke called out a number of people back in the day.  Paterson, Sekeras and Price are the current version of the previous media regime from 20-30 years ago...

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1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Yeah, I don't think they actually qualify as legit media in Vancouver.  Brian Burke called out a number of people back in the day.  Paterson, Sekeras and Price are the current version of the previous media regime from 20-30 years ago...


JPat on the issue:

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, jyu said:

I wouldn't worry about the coaching bump.

 

The goaltending won't let us have any chance of a coaching bump.

 

Even if there is one, it will be a short one. Maybe 3-0-1 start to Tocchet's tenure.

 

Just want best possible draft pick

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I think the things we have seen today and over the last few years indeed the entire history of this ownership’s time in charge, can be found in the following …

In hockey, what happens on the ice is not determined by the actions of the players, the decisions of the coaches, or even the longing of each team's fans. Some call it “puck luck”, but really, the difference between winning and losing is in the hands of the hockey gods.  True story: It's the night before November 6th, 2004, and a businessman and longtime fan of the Vancouver Canucks, who shall remain nameless, is in the last stages of finalizing a deal to buy a percentage of the Canucks.  He thinks he can build a winner in Vancouver, using his hockey smarts as a fan and a wannabe GM, and has faith in his abilities to operate the team, but he knows if there's to be any chance at all of greatness in Vancouver at long last, he's got to get right with the hockey gods.

 

So, he begs for an appearance before the council. They agree, and as quickly as Bobby Orr in his prime could skate down the ice on a one-man rush, he finds himself before the gods themselves. There are six of them, like mafia godfathers of old, and they're hanging out in the local Tim Horton’s, stocking up on some Turkey Bacon Clubs and a wide selection of the best doughnuts and coffee on offer, trading player cards, and being very grumpy over the imminent loss of the entire season due to labor issues.  They were planning to visit their cousins, the football gods, to enjoy some good old-fashioned American gridiron, when the would-be Canucks owner comes knocking, bragging about his business skills, and how he is the right man to bring Lord Stanley to Vancouver.

 

They’re not hearing him at first, because of course, cocky often does not sit well with the high justices of hockeydom.  After all, look what happened to Alexandre Daigle.  But, he wears them down, talking about how Vancouver deserves a winner, and how the hockey gods have had too much fun at the expense of the fans in Vancouver.  All he’s asking for is the chance to own and build a winner in Vancouver.  Is that too much to ask? 

The gods nod their heads, and even hide a smirk or two, but they know that they’ve done Vancouver dirty a few times in the past.  God #1 even notes how, while having the captain as well as the head coach of the team to beat them in the Stanley Cup finals in 1994 work together to drive the team into the ground a mere few years later as their own captain and coach was a nice touch, it might have been a step too far in hindsight.  Still, Vancouver fans are a resilient bunch, and they did give them a great return in that Linden trade ….

 

But, now there’s a problem.  Making a decision to rig the league for a season to give a team the Stanley Cup requires a unanimous decision, and the council is split – three of them think that this brash businessman may just be the best thing to happen to Vancouver as a prospective owner of a sports team, and three feel that seeing the fan base in Vancouver squirm at their team’s losing ways never gets old.  Then, the supplicant plays his last card, saying that, “I’m not asking for me, but for the good of the game.  Having a winner in Vancouver would energize the people of an entire city and province.  A win like this, and we're talking a popularity explosion, we're talking the greatest thing to happen to hockey since, well, the birth of “The Great One” Himself”.

 

Case closed.  When Wayne himself is mentioned, all of the gods get a little teary-eyed at the goodness of Their work, and can’t help but grant the businessman’s request for a winning team in Vancouver.  Unfortunately, he never said when that cup-winning team would arrive, and winning always comes at a price.  So, while a Stanley Cup may be in the team’s future, the gods cannot help but continue to play around with the hearts and souls of Vancouver’s fans.   While they granted greatness in the West Coast Express, they also debilitated that greatness, and while twin magic was also granted, that magic was nerfed with softness at key times.  Their latest masterpiece?  Having a great, enthusiastic and fun-loving coach in Bruce Boudreau be “quiet fired” and replaced by a convicted felon who has never won anything as a coach.  When asked at these and other times why such things happened, the people involved always said that they had no idea what came over them, or why they did what they did.  Man, the gods do love irony ….

 

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11 hours ago, CanuckRookieFan said:

No self respecting Vancouverite leaves town for Alberta. That is a cop-out its like waiving the white flag that you couldn't make it here in Van. Not successful enough, didn't work hard enough not savvy enough to find a way to stay. If you can make it in Vancouver you can make it anywhere anyone who leaves will always been seen as a failure to many of us.

 

What a horrible thing to say. You know absolutely nothing of this fellow fan's personal situation. You're what's wrong with humans

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8 minutes ago, Ilunga said:

This really sucks. 

 

My thoughts are with Bruce and his family. 

 

Tried to stay calm about this but reading this just pisses me off. 

 

This will always be a black mark on this organisation.

This is going to be a stink the organization never gets rid of like the riots.

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2 minutes ago, Steamer4GM said:

What a horrible thing to say. You know absolutely nothing of this fellow fan's personal situation. You're what's wrong with humans

You're absolutely right. I'm from Vancouver, but I've lived in Toronto, Manhattan, Santa Monica and more. And now I'm back in BC, 

my home and native land. 

 

But if I didn't venture out and explore other possibilities, I would have missed out on so many amazing opportunities, as well as meeting

so many incredible people who have become lifelong friends. 

 

Life is to live, but Vancouver will always be my home.

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13 minutes ago, Strawbone said:

Unpopular take: I thought Tocchet was fine in the introductory press conference today. He actually made me mildly optimistic that he can pull this team together. They obviously need some better players as well before becoming really competitive, but he's at least going to try some very different coaching tactics than Bruce and I'm curious to see how it turns out.

 

I was not impressed with Rutherford. He blamed "speculation" and "being too honest" on the way Bruce was treated, like it was really none of his doing. He said it, he should keep his mouth shut from now on. Alvin was a bit tone-deaf as well in regards to how Bruce was strung along, but I thought he showed a little passion towards the end when he talked about how all anyone wants for this team is to have a Stanley Cup banner hanging in the rafters. He's right for sure, if this regime can bring home a Cup, a lot will be forgiven. I'm thinking there's a chance at least. I have to think that to keep wanting to watch the team, so that's my very flimsy reasoning!

To me, what Tocchet said was pretty cookie cutter. If you look back on all of these coaching introductions, they all said pretty much the same thing. I wouldn't put much faith in these pressers from the coach. 

 

It would be a bigger problem if he bombed this standard presser out right. 

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2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

For all of the talk that has been going on, I think alot of people have missed that one important point.  At the end of the day, this entire thing is about winning the Stanley Cup.  Allvin was 100% correct.  Last time I checked there was no banner up in the rafters that says Stanley Cup champion.  Until that happens, this is all noise to me.

 

You may not like JR, Allvin or Tocchet, but at the very least you have to admit that they have actually won the Stanley Cup.  Same with Adam Foote and Sergei Gonchar.  It's no guarantee that they will bring a cup to Vancouver, but last I checked nobody else has either up until this point, so I am willing to give them a chance and putting all of my feelings aside on everything else.  I have listened to the Vancouver media since the Tony Gallagher days, so I am used to all of this stuff, and don't really care what they say anymore.

Benning was very likeable.  But he built terrible teams for us.  Gillis was not likeable at all.  But he built our best teams ever.  Personally, I don’t need to like these managers.  If they are prickly pears, but build us a winning team (like Gillis) that’s fine by me. 

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