Is this the lowest

[Reibonoff]

I have been a fan of the Canucks since they drafted Trevor Linden back in the late eighties, so there are fans with more history then me, however, even through the Keenan era I have never felt so ashamed of this organization then I am now with their treatment of Bruce, an individual that made it fun to be a Canuck fan again and a person worth cheering for.  My question is, has there ever been a time you felt worse about the Canuck organization then it is in the current state?  

[Heretic]

Nope.  I've been a fan since the mid 70's.  

 

 

[PetterssonOrPeterson]

In recent memory yeah. 

 

This feels like the cream on top of the past decade of disappointment.

[Alflives]

Benning era, especially after the “shocking reset”. 

[jyu]

Let's see where this goes.

 

I think it will be dark for couple more seasons but I'm trying to stay optimistic.

 

Gonchar, whom I've liked a lot as a player is an interesting hire. Russian coach could also be helpful as we now have few Russian players on this team.

 

Foote was a very good defenceman in his playing days. Hopefully he will help in that regard.

 

Until Demko returns, which could be the next season, we won't win many games. But if the team defence improves, that will be a good sign.

 

[Spoosh]

I’ve been a fan since 92. I don’t think this is the lowest point I’ve felt as a fan but the last 4-5 years have been. I can’t say I’ve enjoyed this season but that game way back when, when we lost to the Islanders 4-7 after leading 4-0 was one sad point I’ll never forget. From that day it really has been more downhill than anything else. The whole year with Torts was pain too.

 

This really feels like another day at the office as a Canuck fan.

[Zhukini]

It's the decade of darkness but Vancouver not Edmonton edition. 

[Fanuck]

13 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Benning era, especially after the “shocking reset”. 

We didn't have a convicted criminal behind the bench,  so not even close for me.

 

This has to be at or very  near the all time low.

[PetterssonOrPeterson]

6 minutes ago, Zhukini said:

It's the decade of darkness but Vancouver not Edmonton edition. 

hmmm....... edmonton suffered a decade of darkness but then ended up getting connor mcdavid from it

....vancouver's own decade of darkness and they also get a connor be- ?

[Zhukini]

8 minutes ago, PetterssonOrPeterson said:

hmmm....... edmonton suffered a decade of darkness but then ended up getting connor mcdavid from it

....vancouver's own decade of darkness and they also get a connor be- ?

There's so much bad Karma with this Franchise they'll probably drop down 3 spots even though its only possible to go down 2

[danjr]

It is horrible, we are locked in with so many crappy contracts.  Back in the 70-80 and 90's you could package out contracts and change the team.  Can't do that anymore.

99% we are going to lose Bo.  That's a complete downer.  They might even usher Kuzzie out of town.  We will be left with Petey and Quinn.  teams will just shut us down.

 

I look at the rest of the roster and just curl up in the fetal position.  Guys were brought in to fill roles, and they haven't.

 

Miller, just don't get me started on that bad attitude.  I like to see passion, that's not passion.  Giving up on plays all the time, he NEEDS to go.

[mikeyman109]

I have watched every season of this circus and this is pretty bad but the worst was the years before Quinn was hired as president and GM. There was talk of moving the team and it just seemed there was no light at the end of the tunnel. It was much the same but without Petterson Hughes etc.

Pat came in and started his plan but trading away our leading goal scorer in Patrik Sundstrom for Mclean and Gus Adams. People were up in arms over trading the classy Swede but  these are the types of hard decisions that need to be made right now.Its assess every part of the roster time.

We all know what we have on D. A tire fire. too many bad contracts on D. Its going to take some work to fix it.

Up front we need to get younger. If we are going to be rebuilding we will most likely have to trade Petterson. Its going to be a few years of losing to get to where we need to be and Petey isnt going to want to hang out through all that.

We need to get some size with skill up front. not fighters. toughness. corner size. Stand in front of the net size. Today we have a lot of peripheral players. The guy that surprises me is Kuzmenko. He isnt afraid of the front of the net but he is 26 and by the time this team can re tool or whatever they want to call it he will be at least 29. They are better to move him for picks and or a package at the TDL. Its going to be at least three seasons before anything can really change but its time and it has to happen.

Lastly would Conor Bedard change things. Yes it would . It would speed things up considerably however we have sat in this forum in past years running the draft simulator, playing the hope game. Hope is not a strategy. If we bottom out and draft a good young player this season fantastic. If its Bedard even better but its highly unlikely we will finish last in the league and even if we did there is still no guarantee we win the draft lottery.

its time to rip it down tot he studs. No more re tooling. No more tweaking. no more minor surgery. A complete restart.Horvat Miller Boeser gone. Garland., Myers OEL find a way.

Start fresh and this may mean moving Petey and Hughes. But start and have a plan. Since JR and Alvin got here it appears there isnt one.

[Maginator]

Messier era was lower but if the Rutherford/Alvin/Tocchet experiment fails & we're still stuck in the basement in 2-3 years time, then yes. It will certainly be lower.

 

[Aardvark]

I’ve never been embarrassed to be a fan of a team before this. 

[DSVII]

35 minutes ago, Zhukini said:

It's the decade of darkness but Vancouver not Edmonton edition. 

It's the darkness of Edmonton with the draft position of early 2000s Minnesota. 

Edited January 22 by DSVII

[Toews]

For me it definitely is. There have been low points over the years but I have been able to salvage my disappointment with this team with the idea that there is some hope at the end of the tunnel. Its now gotten to a point where I have zero confidence in the people who remain in charge, the rot with this franchise is right at the top. Ultimately I want to see this team compete for the Cup but the intent from this ownership group is to put together a team with a low ceiling. 

[-AJ-]

Probably since I've been watching, which is about 2001 onwards. I get the feeling the late 90s, some of the mid 80s, and some of the 70s felt lower though.

[BlakeQuinnAndEggs]

53 minutes ago, Fanuck said:

We didn't have a convicted criminal behind the bench,  so not even close for me.

 

This has to be at or very  near the all time low.

A convicted criminal lol. You make it sound like he's on the sex offender registry.

 

 

Oh wow he gambled, like none of us have ever played a basement private poker game before.

The court of public opinion is hanging Tocchet out to dry for pointless reasons.

[DownUndaCanuck]

This is certainly up there. The last 5 years have been brutal but honestly it's been a decade now. Obviously losing the cup final in 2011 is as acutely sad as it gets but this is just deeply chronically depressing. We haven't made the moves necessary yet to thrust this team into a playoff spot and until we make some major trades, acquire good young players and picks, develop them the right way and start to win, we won't compete with the real playoff teams of this league any time soon. I hope they don't just look for 6-12 month fixes here anymore. I get it, ownership and management don't want to do a full rebuild, but they can't just go trading Bo and Boeser away for other 25-30 year old players in their prime and rinse and repeat the same problems. We've got to level this club to some degree and start again with Petey and Hughes as our older guys going forward.

 

After 2011 you expected a fall-off. The subsequent year we were still strong but then slowly but surely our core declined and got older, Bieksa and Kesler left, then it was sad watching the Sedins lose so many games and once they left we were officially toast. Many good teams rebuild once their core have peaked and decline but we did the very weird thing of trying to hang on and stay competitive and it really didn't work out well, we were a fringe playoff team for a while, then just a non-playoff team. The Covid bubble was fun but a blip thanks to Demko and sadly we still had too many players in their prime and no young guys in our organisation. 

 

We could easily continue this trend of mediocrity by trading Bo for other guys in their prime and keeping everyone else and just waiting out these cap hits though so it's far from over yet...

[Fanuck]

9 minutes ago, BlakeQuinnAndEggs said:

Oh wow he gambled, like none of us have ever played a basement private poker game before.

He organized and personally participated in a nation wide gambling ring across multiple sports and recruited NHL players, coaches, owners and law enforcement to participate.  It was also linked to the mafia.  But Ok, go ahead and compare it to a basement poker game if you want.