Devron Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Alflives said: JR said we aren’t rebuilding. Our owner has never allowed a trade of a key core player, who is in his prime. Yeah but what does it actually mean. I think it’s just means they aren’t trading Pettersson and Hughes. That’s pretty much about it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassbs Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: If they really want to stop tanking, just make picks 1 to 10 an even lottery for the bottom 10 teams. The team between the bottom 10 and playoffs are probably not tanking anyways. Or they should make it so anyone who wins a top 3 pick cannot do so again for another 3 years or so. How is it fair ny and nj constantly won top 3 picks year after year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: If they really want to stop tanking, just make picks 1 to 10 an even lottery for the bottom 10 teams. The team between the bottom 10 and playoffs are probably not tanking anyways. I would like them to do away with the lottery I am miffed that so many people accept it I have thought for a long time restricting teams ability to draft 1st more than once in a 5 year period would be more helpful in dissuading the tank If teams could not draft in the same spot (in the top 5) twice in a 5 year period, eventually tank teams would be moved into the 6-10 spots without negatively affecting the teams that are just bad but not awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Devron said: Yeah but what does it actually mean. I think it’s just means they aren’t trading Pettersson and Hughes. That’s pretty much about it Maybe? But I’m thinking it means we aren’t trading anyone from our key core five. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: Maybe? But I’m thinking it means we aren’t trading anyone from our key core five. Well great, I’d prefer to keep Bo but I just can’t see it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 i really wish Bruce could have just stayed on til the end of the year. I honestly think he'd have wanted to if given the choice, even if his firing was already decided. Then we'd definitely still be scrambling around in our own zone, and swallowing 5 goals a game and sliding closer to Bedard every game. This is a lose lose now. If Tocchet pokes the team into performing above the level they have been defensively. Probably unsustainable with players trying to impress, but enough to push us out of a bottom 10 finish. Lose if Tocchet tries his best, system after system tweeks, then screams, then bag skates, then benchings, and the team still is allowing more goals than most any other team, then it doesn't bode well for Tocchet being the solution, and we will all know he has at least 2 more seasons here. Obviously even if that second thing happened, next season would entail whatever JR does for the defense at the TD and the post season, and also Tocchet would have more experience with this group and have a better sense on what is needed. But if he doesn't have much success in the next 4 months, It still won't be a great omen. So I don't know if I want to cheer for Tocchet to be a raving success or not. This has got to be one of worst times to be a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 7 hours ago, Devron said: How the hell do people think this team will go on a run lol Pretty sure 99% of ‘Nucks lifers identity masochistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, Devron said: Yeah but what does it actually mean. I think it’s just means they aren’t trading Pettersson and Hughes. That’s pretty much about it I think they're deciding between Kuzmenko at 6 vs Bo at 8.5 right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-NucksFan Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 hours ago, grandmaster said: Anyone know how much Travis Green, BB and Tocchet getting paid this year? I think Twitter showed Green 2.75 Boudreau 2 Tochett 2.75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, eeeeergh said: I think they're deciding between Kuzmenko at 6 vs Bo at 8.5 right now Kuz Missile is as good as gone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brilac Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Jaimito said: Yeah, I think it's too much generalization. Hmm, $7.5 mil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I'm over it but I'm still mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brilac Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 40 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Oh yeah, it's like Trendy Tuesday today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, -NucksFan said: Edited January 25, 2023 by 4petesake Wrong thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Kuz Missile is as good as gone. Mistake in my opinion The ballsy move (but right one) is put Miller back at center, and give him the type of wingers that gave him a ton of success last year (a garland and pearson) and have petey center kuzmenko and mikheyev. Then take your horvat savings and go get a shutdown 3c and rebuild the 3rd line with penalty killing specialists that can also be your matchup line. Home games, thats the line you play against mcdavid, and let petey and miller lines go to work against other teams weaker lines. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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-NucksFan Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 45 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Tocchet also commented that Foote taught him something in practice about how the D deals with wingers exiting the zone, or something like that. They have a wealth of knowledge on what it takes to win a Cup as a Dman in the NHL. I think Gonchar and Foote will help the D core a lot. Rutherford - won 3 Cups as a GM Allvin - won 3 Cups (scouting) Tocchet - won 3 Cups (2 as a player, one as an A/coach) Gonchar - won a Cup (player) Foote - won 2 Cups (player) This is a heck of a management/coaching team, and eventually they'll get the Canucks there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, kilgore said: i really wish Bruce could have just stayed on til the end of the year. I honestly think he'd have wanted to if given the choice, even if his firing was already decided. Then we'd definitely still be scrambling around in our own zone, and swallowing 5 goals a game and sliding closer to Bedard every game. This is a lose lose now. If Tocchet pokes the team into performing above the level they have been defensively. Probably unsustainable with players trying to impress, but enough to push us out of a bottom 10 finish. Lose if Tocchet tries his best, system after system tweeks, then screams, then bag skates, then benchings, and the team still is allowing more goals than most any other team, then it doesn't bode well for Tocchet being the solution, and we will all know he has at least 2 more seasons here. Obviously even if that second thing happened, next season would entail whatever JR does for the defense at the TD and the post season, and also Tocchet would have more experience with this group and have a better sense on what is needed. But if he doesn't have much success in the next 4 months, It still won't be a great omen. So I don't know if I want to cheer for Tocchet to be a raving success or not. This has got to be one of worst times to be a fan. I mean management can certainly help with the “tank” by giving Tocchet less quality of players to work with ie trading Horvat, Garland, Schenn, and perhaps Kuzmenko (though I’d rather keep him tbh) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: Mistake in my opinion The ballsy move (but right one) is put Miller back at center, and give him the type of wingers that gave him a ton of success last year (a garland and pearson) and have petey center kuzmenko and mikheyev. Then take your horvat savings and go get a shutdown 3c and rebuild the 3rd line with penalty killing specialists that can also be your matchup line. Home games, thats the line you play against mcdavid, and let petey and miller lines go to work against other teams weaker lines. Of course there are skater moves; I agree. But tell our owner that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-NucksFan Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, Alflives said: Maybe? But I’m thinking it means we aren’t trading anyone from our key core five. What about the “ major surgery” as opposed to the minor surgery they initially thought would be needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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