Ted Lasso Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) Let’s say we don’t find a partner that can extend him. Would this value make sense for a rental? To VGK: Horvat, 50% retained To VAN: Brett Howden Kaedan Korczak 2023 1st 2024 2nd Howden for checking line C Korczak as Hughes’ partner edit: just realized Korczak played on the Rockets while Foote was head coach for Kelowna Edited January 24, 2023 by Kenny Powers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) Vegas is an odd team in that they haven't been shy about swinging for the fences by making big moves, particularly out the gate as an expansion team. But at the same time they're a team that's given up an awful lot in the way of assets over the last few seasons. For a rental that's not bad though, but I can't help but wonder if Vegas might finally be a bit gun shy about moving out assets. Their prospect pool isn't ranked very highly from what I've seen and they're going to have problems down the road unless they start working to address that. Edited January 24, 2023 by Coconuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 We can get more for him as a non rental. Finding a trading partner won't be an issue, it's just a matter of finding the best overall deal. My guess as well is, Vegas has not really been interested in rentals, they have wanted guys that they can resign to longer deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 20 hours ago, Kenny Powers said: Let’s say we don’t find a partner that can extend him. Would this value make sense for a rental? To VGK: Horvat, 50% retained To VAN: Brett Howden Kaedan Korczak 2023 1st 2024 2nd Howden for checking line C Korczak as Hughes’ partner edit: just realized Korczak played on the Rockets while Foote was head coach for Kelowna Is howden even an upgrade on studnika? Joshua? i know footes time in Kelowna was reported to not go well but i like Korczak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, R3aL said: Is howden even an upgrade on studnika? Joshua? i know footes time in Kelowna was reported to not go well but i like Korczak I haven’t seen Howden play, but scouting report reads as a checking line C, and his draft pedigree / salary would suggest he’s ahead of those two. He’s my ‘trying to be realistic / serviceable nhl player’ in this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 19 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: We can get more for him as a non rental. Finding a trading partner won't be an issue, it's just a matter of finding the best overall deal. My guess as well is, Vegas has not really been interested in rentals, they have wanted guys that they can resign to longer deals. So you’re confident we’ll trade him with an extension? That’s obviously preferable - was curious about his rental value as a (hopefully) worst case scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVA-1 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Korczak, Hague and 1st for Horvat 50% retained. Could add Stillman or Dermott if cap fits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Kenny Powers said: I haven’t seen Howden play, but scouting report reads as a checking line C, and his draft pedigree / salary would suggest he’s ahead of those two. He’s my ‘trying to be realistic / serviceable nhl player’ in this trade. I want a blue chip or a grade a young player coming back minimum for Horvat I’d be sad with that trade return tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, R3aL said: I want a blue chip or a grade a young player coming back minimum for Horvat I’d be sad with that trade return tbh Same here. Just curious on what a fair rental price might be. I’m thinking he’ll get extended, unless a contender offers a silly price to rent him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Kenny Powers said: So you’re confident we’ll trade him with an extension? That’s obviously preferable - was curious about his rental value as a (hopefully) worst case scenario My personal opinion is, teams in this league don't currently have the ability to outbid teams who would be interested in resigning him. I could be wrong, but I think this will be a hockey trade where we get 3 solid pieces back. I'm still not 100% that we trade him, I think that part of what they are doing right now, is using the possibility of trade as a negotiating chip with Horvat. I don't think he really wants to leave, but they want him to provide a better discount to stay. My personal opinion is, we will wind up signing him to 8 years, 8.5 million. My personal opinion is, he's more valuable and a more rounded player than Miller, even if Miller was playing at the level he was last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Kenny Powers said: Same here. Just curious on what a fair rental price might be. I’m thinking he’ll get extended, unless a contender offers a silly price to rent him Its a lot of elephant to chew on. Stressing me out 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 49 minutes ago, R3aL said: Its a lot of elephant to chew on. Stressing me out I’m excited for him to be traded. Ready to sell high for once, and avoid being cornered into a retirement contract. Ready to have a playmaking 2C, a proper checking 3C, and a new Captain. I like Bo, but he’s not worth what his agent’s asking. Let someone else pay for his career year, while giving us young players to rebuild around Petey and Hughes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 34 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said: I’m excited for him to be traded. Ready to sell high for once, and avoid being cornered into a retirement contract. Ready to have a playmaking 2C, a proper checking 3C, and a new Captain. I like Bo, but he’s not worth what his agent’s asking. Let someone else pay for his career year, while giving us young players to rebuild around Petey and Hughes. I’m excited nervous though. it’s such a franchise defining type of trade. hope they really do a great trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, R3aL said: I’m excited nervous though. it’s such a franchise defining type of trade. hope they really do a great trade. I hear ya. They need to get this right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 6 hours ago, Kenny Powers said: I hear ya. They need to get this right I am instilled with faith in this management group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 13 hours ago, Kenny Powers said: I’m excited for him to be traded. Ready to sell high for once, and avoid being cornered into a retirement contract. Ready to have a playmaking 2C, a proper checking 3C, and a new Captain. I like Bo, but he’s not worth what his agent’s asking. Let someone else pay for his career year, while giving us young players to rebuild around Petey and Hughes. I’m not liking the chances our owner will allow a Bo trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Alflives said: I’m not liking the chances our owner will allow a Bo trade. Seems like the most likely outcome to me, but you might be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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