DeltaSwede Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I don't see Demko being shopped. He like any other player in the league is always available, if the price is right. Makes no sense to move him. Got nothing to replace him with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, stawns said: I'd be fine with Morrow too, but I think Carolina would be more apt to include their 1st if the Canucks took JK off their hands. I also think JK is still a very good piece who fits the timeline. Hmm, could make sense. They need a better fit at 2C than he's provided if they really want to contend. Could even build a deal around sending them both Demko AND Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: We don't have a replacement for Demko, but if the offer was good, I would consider it. Carolina and Buffalo seem like the two most logical teams for a trading partner. Both of Carolina's goalies are UFA's in the summer and they have the cap space for Demko. To Carolina: Thatcher Demko To Vancouver: Scott Morrow 2023 2nd round pick nope, if they're trading the only real NHL goalie in their system it's got to be a home run package and there'd have to be a goalie coming back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Hmm, could make sense. They need a better fit at 2C than he's provided if they really want to contend. Could even build a deal around sending them both Demko AND Horvat. now we're getting somewhere! That would have to involve Necas I think Necas JK Andersen Chatfield 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I need to let that sink in. We have been spoiled with above average goaltending here for so long. The list is enviable. We would be venturing into the unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, stawns said: nope, if they're trading the only real NHL goalie in their system it's got to be a home run package and there'd have to be a goalie coming back Carolina doesn't have any goalies of value, that's why they would want Demko. We could take one of the two they have this year to give Carolina more cap room, but they are both UFA's so it won't matter for next year. There aren't any UFA's of interest this summer, so most likely the Canucks would need a young netminder to come back, which is a difficult deal to do. Maybe in a separate transaction they could get someone. If Detroit is interested in BO, then Sebastian Cossa might be a piece coming back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 After this trade ask Lou to play abit he is still gettin paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, stawns said: now we're getting somewhere! That would have to involve Necas I think Necas JK Andersen Chatfield 1st Why Chatfield? I don't think Carolina's going to trade their leading scorer in Necas, not if they're looking to contend, they strike me as a team that'd sooner move futures or prospects than touch their main roster forwards I'd switch Necas to Morrow and maybe a 2nd or 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Carolina doesn't have any goalies of value, that's why they would want Demko. We could take one of the two they have this year to give Carolina more cap room, but they are both UFA's so it won't matter for next year. There aren't any UFA's of interest this summer, so most likely the Canucks would need a young netminder to come back, which is a difficult deal to do. Maybe in a separate transaction they could get someone. If Detroit is interested in BO, then Sebastian Cossa might be a piece coming back... they'd be taking back Andersen in that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 To Det: Demko, BoHo, Rathbone To Vancouver: Cossa, Edvinsson, Hronek, Nedeljovick (cap dump), 2nd Just spitballin'.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 If they trade him to Buffalo, it means that they'll be getting one of Devon Levi or Erik Portillo back as the "goalie of the future". It seems like a dumb move to trade Demko. I don't really get why he's in trade rumors right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 To Detroit: Bo Horvat Thatcher Demko To Vancouver: Marco Kasper Michael Rasmussen Sebastian Cossa 2023 1st round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, Westcoastcanucks777 said: After this trade ask Lou to play abit he is still gettin paid? I wouldn't be against that, but his recapture penalty ended last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Demo not getting traded. Especially right now when he's had a sub par start and out with injury. Maybe in a year or two if the team is in a complete rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I would suspect that maybe we can't get the deal we want by moving Horvat alone, so perhaps we are looking to flip Horvat for a package that includes a goalie. Then move Demko for a package that involves a center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, stawns said: they'd be taking back Andersen in that deal. Anderson in a UFA this summer, so that would be only for cap purposes for this year. I'm talking about next year. If we are moving Demko to Carolina then we need to get a young goalie back in a separate trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 48 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Depends on what the return is and what management projects our timeline to be. I'm open to moving Demko but I don't think we're as close as others do. That timeline, and the actual results over he next few years, will impact whether they think he'll want to stick around too. He just turned 27 in December so he'll be 28 before next season is half over, are we four years out? Five? Sure, he'd provide stability in the meantime and top goaltenders tend to age better but who knows? Will we contend over the remainder of what's probably his prime? Could see a number of teams having interest. LA for one. Demko is getting older and fits Bo/Miller's age a bit better but still, you see older goalies peak later all the time. I know they're getting younger and younger but Demko has a good, what, 5-6 years as a starter left? That would tide us over nicely and buy us time to develop Silovos and draft another replacement for him as we don't really have anyone else in the pipeline. Goaltending is one area I don't think we need to tweak too much. Martin and Delia have been dreadful this year, obviously, but they're essentially AHLers. Demko was terrible when he was playing but you could argue he was in between injuries and left out to dry with a weak defence. Fix the defence and any goalie we chuck in there looks like a star. That's what we should be focussing on, not trading away the one good goalie we have left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) The quickest way out of a multi year tank is with stellar goaltending. Otherwise you could be mired in the basement for years. Given the organizational depth at goalie this franchise would have to draft a ton of goalies and hope one develops. We've been basement dwellers long enough. I can stand a few years of it but I don't want to be the Sabres. Unless they fear he's damaged goods I'd keep Demko. Edited January 30 by nuckin_futz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: Why Chatfield? I don't think Carolina's going to trade their leading scorer in Necas, not if they're looking to contend, they strike me as a team that'd sooner move futures or prospects than touch their main roster forwards I'd switch Necas to Morrow and maybe a 2nd or 3rd Necas has one more year on his deal and is then going to get a huge raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, theo5789 said: I would suspect that maybe we can't get the deal we want by moving Horvat alone, so perhaps we are looking to flip Horvat for a package that includes a goalie. Then move Demko for a package that involves a center. Yeah I agree. Horvat to Detroit makes more sense now. Maybe Sebastian Cossa is part of the package. And then Demko is moved for a centre... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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