stawns Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Anderson in a UFA this summer, so that would be only for cap purposes for this year. I'm talking about next year. If we are moving Demko to Carolina then we need to get a young goalie back in a separate trade. or UFA, where you can usually find a decent placeholder goalie. I like Minnesota for Wallstedt, but doubt Minny parts with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Carolina doesn't have any goalies of value Pytor Kochetkov would beg to differ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, stawns said: or UFA, where you can usually find a decent placeholder goalie. I like Minnesota for Wallstedt, but doubt Minny parts with him Wallstedt would be my first choice as well, but I don't think Minny trades him. I like him better than Cossa. I checked the UFA's for this summer, there is no one available other than a stop gap goalie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Pytor Kochetkov would beg to differ Yeah, I forgot about him. If he is any good then Carolina probably isn't interested in Demko unless he comes for cheap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doxm Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 March 3rd can't come soon enough. So tired of all of the rumors hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, stawns said: nope, if they're trading the only real NHL goalie in their system it's got to be a home run package and there'd have to be a goalie coming back Maybe New Jersey might be interested?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Demko is getting older and fits Bo/Miller's age a bit better but still, you see older goalies peak later all the time. I know they're getting younger and younger but Demko has a good, what, 5-6 years as a starter left? That would tide us over nicely and buy us time to develop Silovos and draft another replacement for him as we don't really have anyone else in the pipeline. Goaltending is one area I don't think we need to tweak too much. Martin and Delia have been dreadful this year, obviously, but they're essentially AHLers. Demko was terrible when he was playing but you could argue he was in between injuries and left out to dry with a weak defence. Fix the defence and any goalie we chuck in there looks like a star. That's what we should be focussing on, not trading away the one good goalie we have left. Bo's almost certainly on his way out, I never liked the Miller deal in part because of his age. And sure, he'd provide stability in the meantime. But he also has to want to stay, which is no guarantee. And again, it depends on the offer. I think a stopgap would work just fine. 16 minutes ago, stawns said: Necas has one more year on his deal and is then going to get a huge raise. Teravainen will be a UFA the same offseason and walking away from that would probably cover it. Aho would also be a UFA but I think they could make it work, particularly if we've taken longer term cap off their books in Kotkaneimi. Burns expiring will take care of Slavin. Some of Staal's expiring 6M could take care of one or both of Skjei and Pesce. Pacioretty's 7M pays for most of Horvat, Demko only costs 500k more than Andersen. Cap is also projected to rise from what I keep hearing, which will help. I'd take a little juggling but I could see Carolina making it work. Gotta think they'll be looking to graduate some of their prospects too. Edited January 30, 2023 by Coconuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Yeah, I forgot about him. If he is any good then Carolina probably isn't interested in Demko unless he comes for cheap... Yeah I can't see them interested in Demko, but as I mentioned, they might make a move for Horvat and we trade Demko elsewhere for a center replacement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) my gut tells me demmer wants out. send him to los angeles for a king's ransom. Edited January 30, 2023 by tas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 34 minutes ago, rekker said: We would be venturing into the unknown. maybe unknown to you, but i remember 1998-2006 pretty clearly. it wasn't great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 To Calgary for Tanev and Markstrom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalian Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) Laughing at some of the returns people are proposing. Goaltenders historically don’t get great returns. Goaltenders who have a below average season before getting season ending surgery get even lower returns. Also just because teams are calling does not mean he’s being shopped. If he is, then management is probably aware of some unfavorable prognosis, in which case, trade away and hope the acquiring team has shoddy medical screening Edited January 30, 2023 by arsenalian Spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, -AJ- said: Honestly, I think Demko is young enough still to be good after a rebuild. I'd think this is probably a big mistake unless we get an unbelievable haul or another great young goalie in return. Yup. Demko is our most important player. Crazy to trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, Alflives said: Yup. Demko is our most important player. Crazy to trade him. Yes he's right up there with Petey and Hughes. If he goes, it better be for a crazy stupid offer or no dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, tas said: maybe unknown to you, but i remember 1998-2006 pretty clearly. it wasn't great. Maybe unknown wasn't the right word. But we have had stellar goaltending for a long time. Been a fan since 82 so I do remember those years. Edited January 30, 2023 by rekker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 If someone was parting with a decent goalie or a young goalie I'm ok with it. But we can't afford just to let Demko go for a draft pick. Goalies tend to take 2-4 years to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 It's their job to listen, then if an offer blows them away.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 NHLrumors has Demko linked to PIT. Citing concerns with Jarry’s health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I remember listening to a podcast after last season, can’t remember the guys name, but he was very pushy with the idea that Demko should be moved immediately, and gave points on his health and how repeat knee injuries seemed inevitable with the trend that he saw. I found this fascinating with Demko being our best player last season, and where we’re at with a seemingly injury prone and ugly season in his limited viewings.. Could Management themselves be coming to the same conclusion and attempt to sell high (as high as the market goes for goalies)? …Before the he comes back and possibly lowers that value with inconsistent and/or poor performance? I can only imagine they would consider this move if they felt the wheels could come off for Demko or if someone were to overpay for what they consider a good gamble here. I myself really like Demko but if there is any time to shop him, the time is now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 GMs can call all they want. Management said no to a rebuild so there's no way we deal Demko, unless we get an oustanding deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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