eeeeergh Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: Raty is currently ranked what? 93rd in prospect ranking for players under 23? Ya we got a top prospect.. the top prospect of a team that haven’t had a 1st rounder in 5 years.. Raty looked ok.. prolly ends up to be a decent 3c eventually.. and no guarantee the management don’t pick a bust with the 1st rounder in the mid -20 range.. so really we got a potential 3c and a magic bean and a cap dump lol not sure how anyone thinks we won the trade. I’m not even sure if Raty even slots in as our top prospect right now and that’s pretty sad for the biggest trade chip of the TDL Why are you looking at him on a ranking of prospects under 23? He’s 20. Of course prospects age 22/23 are gonna be looking more polished than him. and that’s a likely pick in the middle of the 1st round of the deepest draft since 2003. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: You realize raty is 20 years old right? Hes going to an excellent player. Actually gonna be so good it’s not even funny he’s so talented 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginator Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 hours ago, Pickly said: Sucks to see him go but this country club bullsh*t in Vancouver has to stop and a new culture is needed. This is the first step to changing that. As for the return? In a cap strapped league I’m not all surprised this was the return. Hopefully acquiring a winger with this trade means others will be dealt because there’s way too much money tied up on the flanks. They can start with Boeser. Country club b.s. all starts with the Captain in my opinion! He held the most chips in the room and all we had to show for was losing due to bad habits. Petey is going to lead this team to greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MystifyNCrucify Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, Zerofaith said: You watch the Canucks don’t you? That’s the biggest clown show around and you’re the monkey Well actually i dont. Living in europe i get access to highlights, and even then i cant remember the last time i bothered. Im still a lifelong fan and enjoy reading about whats going on, but i doubt id be watching even if i could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Dude, have a Snickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MystifyNCrucify Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Ilunga said: Correction you called the poster you quoted, @MystifyNCrucify a monkey. Got it ? Meh. Ive been called worse by far better people. May have even deserved it once or twice. I found it more funny that the person calling me a monkey was the one slinging doo doo over a tongue in cheek comment about the all star game of all things. so with that in mind i say, takes one to know one @Zerofaith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 It would appear the ones that are most disappointed in this trade felt like we could get much more value for a pending UFA. It's also a buyers market given the cap climate. The ones annoyed that we didn't wait longer, what are we waiting for? Perhaps we could've waited and maybe squeaked out another assets, but it's just as possible that these teams decide to go with another player or play hard ball as we inch closer to the TDL and we lose him for nothing as he walks to UFA. No guarantee that he would've gotten more closer to the TDL. Also moving him now helps our "tank". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 16 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: Why are you looking at him on a ranking of prospects under 23? He’s 20. Of course prospects age 22/23 are gonna be looking more polished than him. and that’s a likely pick in the middle of the 1st round of the deepest draft since 2003. ok he's ranked 56?? even the uninspired pick from last year is ranked higher than him at 23. again i'm not bashing the player.. but the return is uninspiring.. raty ceiling is pegged at a 3c maybe borderline 2c if he works out.. and the word is IF. and we all seen how most of our prospect stalls once in the canucks farm system... every couple years we talk about deepest draft since so and so.. the draft is deep.. but the talent still drops off after 10-12 this year.. after that it's still a gamble. JR draft history doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Nice to have it done early too, so it helps with team tank and also less of a distraction now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldmanpower Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 The deal is done, now only time will tell how it works out. However, how does management fix the real problem with the team? Our defence is horawful. If this problem has to be addressed through drafting, we are years and years away from contending. And if management has been trying to trade for defensemen and have been unsuccessful, the only way to speed up the drafting process is to accumulate draft picks. An interesting trade deadline this will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, theo5789 said: It would appear the ones that are most disappointed in this trade felt like we could get much more value for a pending UFA. It's also a buyers market given the cap climate. The ones annoyed that we didn't wait longer, what are we waiting for? Perhaps we could've waited and maybe squeaked out another assets, but it's just as possible that these teams decide to go with another player or play hard ball as we inch closer to the TDL and we lose him for nothing as he walks to UFA. No guarantee that he would've gotten more closer to the TDL. Also moving him now helps our "tank". Waiting for the tdl arms race to start in the east. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the GM with the best piece on the market to wait and leverage teams against each other. They don't play for a week.......why not wait that long, st least? They may also have screwed Horvat out of his ASG appearance and, because of this week off, he's probably not going to get to say goodbye to his team, as a team.......that includes training staff etc. Par for the course for this management group though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 11 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: ok he's ranked 56?? even the uninspired pick from last year is ranked higher than him at 23. again i'm not bashing the player.. but the return is uninspiring.. raty ceiling is pegged at a 3c maybe borderline 2c if he works out.. and the word is IF. and we all seen how most of our prospect stalls once in the canucks farm system... every couple years we talk about deepest draft since so and so.. the draft is deep.. but the talent still drops off after 10-12 this year.. after that it's still a gamble. JR draft history doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Raty is a great player........no one ne should be anything but excited that he's in Van 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Man Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 After sleeping on it, I'm not as pissed about the draft pick. There was little to no chance we were going to get a better first rounder. Anaheim or Chicago wasn't going to give up theirs for Bo because that doesn't align with their current goal. And had we traded Bo to a powerhouse like Boston, the pick we get would be the mid-20s and beyond. The worst case scenario is that NYI goes on an absolute tear this year, or tanks this year and goes on an absolute tear next year, which diminishes the value of the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 14 hours ago, tas said: so then why didn't the canucks leverage that by allowing teams to talk contract? The only thing I can think is there is a risk in allowing this for the Canucks. .say the isles talk to his agent and it's made apparent Bo will ONLY sign an 8 year deal and want $9m. That would immediately turn the Isles off of him. Yes negotiating a contract with a new team ahead can Garner a much bigger return, but it also runs the risk of scaring off potential trade partners also. It really only works if they player is being traded to a destination they want to go to. Example Matthew Tkatchuk to Florida 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, Iron Man said: After sleeping on it, I'm not as pissed about the draft pick. There was little to no chance we were going to get a better first rounder. Anaheim or Chicago wasn't going to give up theirs for Bo because that doesn't align with their current goal. And had we traded Bo to a powerhouse like Boston, the pick we get would be the mid-20s and beyond. The worst case scenario is that NYI goes on an absolute tear this year, or tanks this year and goes on an absolute tear next year, which diminishes the value of the pick. I get the protection.........then don't take back a cap dump winger and don't retain and relinquish your ability to use cap space at the tdl, draft etc. When you dig into this trade, Lou really pulled one over on PA, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 7 hours ago, Provost said: Islanders fans seem to think they are really lucky to shed Beauvillier as a cap dump. We paid a 2nd just to get rid of a few hundred thousand in the Dickenson-Stillman swap So taking on $4.1 x two years is a big hit. If we got another overpaid winger while we are considering buying out a better one in Garland, that doesn’t make much sense. We are worse in the short term for the next two years. I can accept that if they proceed to really go down that path by moving a few more players. If they did this move and follow it up by trying to make us “competitive” next year then this isn’t a good plan. We would have been better off taking a later 1st without taking any money back beyond this season. Too much is made about this. If they can get a good defenseman or two you do it. They aren't trying to tear this thing down when Hughes has 4 years left on his deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 hours ago, Ilunga said: Go on brother have a shot. It's just a bit of fun. Personally I would be happy without clicking the lottery link with the current standings https://www.tankathon.com/nhl/mock_draft Will Smith.....eff yeah Check out his projected numbers for this year https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/615470/will-smith Close to 150 points in 75 games with less than 30 games to go. Logan Cooley scored 111 points in 75 games https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/651538/logan-cooley This Will Smith??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 3 minutes ago, stawns said: I get the protection.........then don't take back a cap dump winger and don't retain and relinquish your ability to use cap space at the tdl, draft etc. When you dig into this trade, Lou really pulled one over on PA, imo. I think Allvin likes Beauvillier. Mentioned multiple times he's seen him in the playoffs (at his best). If he can score at a 20 goal pace next year he could be an asset at the deadline. And in the meanwhile maybe he can help the PK. This is alot closer to taking on a year of something like Garland than someone like Eriksson or Roussel. Edited January 31 by Smashian Kassian 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 This could go really bad for NYI if they don't do well this year. Imo there is about as good a chance this is a 2024 top 5 pick as a 2023 bottom 25 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, stawns said: I get the protection.........then don't take back a cap dump winger and don't retain and relinquish your ability to use cap space at the tdl, draft etc. When you dig into this trade, Lou really pulled one over on PA, imo. I dunno man I think we tend to over value our guys like Miller last year. Bo is a 60 pt guy with intangibles he's about to get paid like a ppg guy. Which diminishes his value. The question will be can he keep up this pace or does he crash back to earth once pen hits paper. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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