higgyfan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Beauvillier has the same amount of goals this year as Brock. But he’s a 3rd liner and Brock is a top 6 forward? On what planet is a guy a top 6 forward who only has 9 goals and is supposed to be a goal scorer? And I don’t care that he has 30 points. Those secondary assists mean squat. Let's compare Beau's PP toi to Brocks. 18 minutes ago, CanucksJay said: Yup I like that they got frozen out. Probably came with a weak lowball offer. Good thing Allvin did this early. I'd rather we get that reputation so by trade deadline day, we don't have other GMs wasting our time like they used to do with Benning. PA has likely been tendering offers for Bo for the last month or more. I think he knew what the potential was for Bo and went with the best one. Edited January 31 by higgyfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post R3aL Posted January 31 Popular Post Share Posted January 31 11 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Raty English is unreal. I’ve never heard him speak.. he sounded excited about the Vancouver barn and scoring in it. im pretty excited that we added Raty have a great feeling about him. And absolutely love we aren’t rushing him. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, coryberg said: Was expecting aatu to have a thick accent and struggle in the interview. Could hardly tell he is a euro. My first thought as well. More well spoken than Beauvillier. He is big on the uhs and ums, like most NA players. Raty though was clean a crisp. Spoke very fast though, must be nervous. Lol. Seems like a guy that's probably quieter than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CanucksJay Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, FlyLow_ said: I think it's fair to be disappointed or happy with the trade depending on which avenue you support. It is nice to see change and to add a pick and prospect but the return was not enough for a bonafide elite Center and did nothing to fix our Defense or cap problems. I don't care to hear about how this is what a ufa is worth, it's their own damn fault he is a pending ufa. They chose Miller and some wingers over signing Bo last summer. They also would not allow anyone to talk to Bo's agent about a sign & trade which would have increased the return. This is seemingly at least a direction, something we have not had in a very long time. Of course it only continues to be a direction if assets continue to be moved out for more picks/prospects and impact players that can turn this thing around in Petey & Huggy's window. My opinion of the Canucks today remains unchanged, even when trying to do the right thing the they have to do it the most ass backwards difficult way possible. I felt like you yesterday but am optimistic the more I read about Raty. If Beau can replace Brock and outperform him and save some cap or even allow us to trade Brock for a2nd with a little retention that would be good. Raty looks to be a solid 2c in the future That islanders 1st pick will be a good future defensemen. In the 13-18 range If we trade Schenn that'll be another 2nd If we can sign Livingstone that'd be huge We can potentially go into this year's draft with 2 firsts, 3 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, higgyfan said: Let's compare Beau's PP toi compared to Brocks. PA has likely been tendering offers for Bo for the last month or more. I think he knew what the potential was for Bo and went with the best one. I like what I see when it comes to Beauvillier's playoff performance (even dating back to his junior days). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, HKSR said: I like what I see when it comes to Beauvillier's playoff performance (even dating back to his junior days). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 58 minutes ago, Bad_BOI_pete said: what if you know he is not in your plans moving forward? spend your time somewhere else and forget about it? And that's the thing. Anything less than a 2nd it's absolutely worth it to just extend him and keep all of his intangibles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) Many of us agree that we should have traded Miller and kept Bo but that ship has sailed. We are not trading Miller. Getting Raty is a good move, AB is possibly a good move, but I am pleasantly surprised we got a first round pick after hearing management talk about 25-26 yo reclamation projects rather than picks. Its particularly great to get a pick around 12-15 rather than 25-32 as I expected. In terms of all the disappointment about our D being unchanged, management know how terrible the D is and I’m willing to give them until the beginning of next season to see what they can do in terms of the trade deadline, free agency and the draft. I would be shocked and disappointed if we have the same D in the Fall. I expect 3 more trades: Boeser, Schenn and Garland (maybe Myers after his bonus is paid), and one buyout (OEL?). I’m happy to have us suck this year but won’t be pencilling Bedard into our lineup for 2023-2024. Edited January 31 by steviewonder20 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VegasCanuck Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 So, short term, NYI are a stronger team for this season, have a better chance of making the playoffs. If they don't really perform in the next 5 weeks and they are unsuccessful in signing Horvat long-term, don't be surprised if they flip him with even more retained, at the deadline. Short term, Vancouver is worse, Abbotsford is better with Raty joining them, they are pretty stacked down center. Long-term, Canucks are a better team with adding essentially (as Allvin said) 3 first round picks (equivalent). If we can move at or before the deadline, Miller, Garland, Schenn and Boeser for assets and then during summer, move Myers once his 5 million bonus is paid as well as OEL, we should be in good shape heading into next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, coryberg said: And that's the thing. Anything less than a 2nd it's absolutely worth it to just extend him and keep all of his intangibles. and how much are you willing to pay him? lets not forget about ben who had similar success with Hughes... i remember people were saying he was our best dman because of his stats were so good.... turns out that hughes was pumping those numbers.... who would have know that playing with a top 10 defenseman would artificially pump your numbers.... we always have to be wary of the anson carters of the world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Cizikas won't give up his number to Bo? Lol. I thought the number 53 had significance to Bo. Or am I confusing him with someone else? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: 1+4 = 5 4-1 = 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devron Posted January 31 Popular Post Share Posted January 31 Just now, N7Nucks said: Cizikas won't give up his number to Bo? Lol. I thought the number 53 had significance to Bo. Or am I confusing him with someone else? Bo said all good, I won’t be here for long 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckRookieFan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 35 minutes ago, Harold Drunken said: Won't happen, too many rich people and companies in Vancouver that go to games as a night out or to socialize. There is a huge amount of casual fans in the city enough to fill the arena most nights, so trying to dry out the ownership isn't going to work. For changes to happen more unconventional ideas need to be thought up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, Bad_BOI_pete said: and how much are you willing to pay him? lets not forget about ben who had similar success with Hughes... i remember people were saying he was our best dman because of his stats were so good.... turns out that hughes was pumping those numbers.... who would have know that playing with a top 10 defenseman would artificially pump your numbers.... we always have to be wary of the anson carters of the world... 1.5 mil x 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, HKSR said: I like what I see when it comes to Beauvillier's playoff performance (even dating back to his junior days). Absolutely. When I look at Bailey, Bazar and Wahstrom #s, I get the impression that the Islanders aren't very good at developing young, offensive players. They shine at developing defensive players. I'm interested in seeing what Beau can do in the top 6 on an offensive team like the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 7 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Cizikas won't give up his number to Bo? Lol. I thought the number 53 had significance to Bo. Or am I confusing him with someone else? Not really, that significant. He was honouring a player he never met (was going to be his teammate that season), from the Knights organization, who died in a car accident. The #14 is probably a nod to Burrows. Edited January 31 by shiznak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 9 minutes ago, CanucksJay said: I felt like you yesterday but am optimistic the more I read about Raty. If Beau can replace Brock and outperform him and save some cap or even allow us to trade Brock for a2nd with a little retention that would be good. Raty looks to be a solid 2c in the future That islanders 1st pick will be a good future defensemen. In the 13-18 range If we trade Schenn that'll be another 2nd If we can sign Livingstone that'd be huge We can potentially go into this year's draft with 2 firsts, 3 seconds None of that really matters if Brock and Miller play well and we don't have to sell low on them. I don't see any fit here with Beauvillier, I'd move him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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