higgyfan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 15 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: Prettttty sure the Islanders reporter said Beau is weak defensively though. I personally don't know and I could care less about watching a pure defensive team like the Islanders haha! I'm basing my comment on what PA said about watching Beau's game over the years and stating that he could see him playing on the PK. You are so right about the Islanders. I wouldn't be surprised that even with Bo, they don't make the playoffs this year. They have Florida nipping at their heals and the 2 teams ahead of them have more points + 3 games in hand. I played the simulator this morning and ended with the Canucks getting the 1oa + 13oa on my first try. Can you imagine that 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, NorthWestNuck said: But when things aren’t going his way, he doesn’t dig deep and motivate his teammates. He tries to do everything himself and ends up coughing up the puck. To me, this is not a sign of a leader. Leadership often comes out when the going gets tough. You know what you get. We know what we have in Miller when the going gets tough. He pouts, and he gets lazy defensively. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SilentSam said: I’m pretty sure we are on the correct path of changing the culture here,. Bo was apart of the softness. Miller is a complete hockey player, and an identity for the young core to create their own Drive with .. Thats why he is here for at least 3 more years,. because it’s a crucial time to establish that culture.. and get it back to the years of Kurtenbach , Smyl, and Linden. I hope you're right... Well I hope that their bet on Miller is the right one. We'll see more so, one way or another now that Bo is gone. I'm not as optimistic as you obviously. Edited January 31 by Hogs & Podz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, kenhodgejr said: i would rather trade Miller to a contender now. Id be willing to take back a bad contract that expires soon like Jordan Stall, and replace that player with JT Miller. In exchange we get a prospect and another 1st Don't think any team wants to take on that contract moving forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Imagine if Lou flips him at the TDL. He's only on a 4M cap hit now, much tastier. If he flips him at the TDL, that means they are well out of playoff contention. Which means that we likely get their unprotected 2024 1st instead from an aging roster that doesn't have a Bo Horvat on the team. We could be getting a top 10 pick along with Raty. What return are they going to get a late 1st and a prospect? They won't be getting anything significant to improve their team for next season most likely. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack in the box Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 49 minutes ago, JayDangles said: Voice of reason right here. Let someone else take the risk of resigning Bo. I'd rather the risk of both Raty and the 1st not developing, than the risk of signing another 7 year contract based on 1 year of high level production. Too many pages too read all.... But I totally agree with this. I think signing Bo to a contract he wants will be a mistake for any team, but he will still likely get it anyways. I am happy it's not us. The return we got, I have no idea, but it's a bunch of futures, so I happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: I’m pretty sure we are on the correct path of changing the culture here,. Bo was apart of the softness. Miller is a complete hockey player, and an identity for the young core to create their own Drive with .. Thats why he is here for at least 3 more years,. because it’s a crucial time to establish that culture.. and get it back to the years of Kurtenbach , Smyl, and Linden. Well if he could reduce his half arsed line changes and chasing back, he may be ok, otherwise.... I do agree, he represents a more in your face style of hockey, and that has been needed for some time. lets hope bot Klim and podz plays to their sizes as well as Beauvillier. Get Brock off the team and get a proper RHD instead, and suddely we start to look better. Next year Myers and Pearson, and then we have the cash for Peteys and Kuz extensions + another good RHD. One more year, and then I think we'll start to make a proper push. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Miller gets primary assists, he actually sets players up to score. Kuzmenko and BO are prime examples. He also has 18 goals, so on top of setting guys up, he's also on pace for 30+ goals. 100 point players don't get $8 million, they get $10 million. Miller is re-signed to be an 80 point player, not a 100 point player. Boeser has been given every opportunity to score goals. Playing with Petey, taking Kuzmenko's spot on the PP. Rather than scoring goals, he is piling up secondary assists. Also, his goals are mostly tap ins. Meanwhile, Kuzmenko keeps piling up goals and driving play even on the 3rd line. "Piling up secondary assists." He has 9 primary assists and 12 secondary assists. Kuzmenko for reference has 9 primary and 13 secondary. Boeser isn't our primary puck handler anyway. Hughes, Petey and Miller are. So naturally, they will get the bulk of the primary assists. Brayden Point has 11 primary and 13 secondary. Guy sure is "piling up the secondary assists." Y'all really enjoy just sh*tting on Boeser. What a weird existence. Edit: Fixing Boeser's primary assists totals. Edited January 31 by N7Nucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, Hogs & Podz said: Yes those are some of his qualities. And yes I believe the rest of his teammates have benefitted from his drive and passion. However, it comes with other characteristics that wear on his teammates as well. I feel the the negatives now out way the positives. Petey and Hughes have learned everything they can from Miller. Because of his larger than life personally and the fact that he finds it hard to contain or direct his energy productively, his antics are now mostly a distraction. Again, he is a very valuable player. And quite frankly I like his honest interviews and candidness, but I just don't think he is the right personality to mesh with Petey and Hughes long term. I'd prefer more Schenn type of players over Miller type a player. LARGER THAN LIFE PERSONALITY?? why , because he is a good interview? I think your manifesting his good qualities and thinking their negative in a room ?? He has been the only true leader on this team since he arrived. Has openly praised the young players he is with,. raved about Podz and the type of player he is. Bo has been here 9 years, quiet , soft, and a career year before his UFA contract. I’ve never seen him praise a teammate , without something short and cliche. Thats soft culture, Thats negative value.. and a declining asset. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, NorthWestNuck said: What drive? Miller doesn’t have drive, he’s the least likely to backcheck in the whole league. That’s not to say he’s not talented, he has amazing skill, sure. But when things aren’t going his way, he doesn’t dig deep and motivate his teammates. He tries to do everything himself and ends up coughing up the puck. Miller is a great player, but I don’t want his “drive” rubbing off on anyone. Too bad for you then, it already has.and management likes it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 or trade Milller for Jesperi Kotkaniemi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, N7Nucks said: "Piling up secondary assists." He has 10 primary assists and 12 secondary assists. Kuzmenko for reference has 9 primary and 13 secondary. Boeser isn't our primary puck handler anyway. Hughes, Petey and Miller are. So naturally, they will get the bulk of the primary assists. Brayden Point has 11 primary and 13 secondary. Guy sure is "piling up the secondary assists." Y'all really enjoy just sh*tting on Boeser. What a weird existence. Why do you keep trying to defend him? He's scored 9 goals, can't skate, can't kill penalties, and is not even on our first unit PP. But he's getting paid $6.65 million. He can't be traded so his agent has to get involved to try and pump his tires to find a trade partner. It's quite strange how some need to defend this guy until the end... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, kenhodgejr said: or trade Milller for Jesperi Kotkaniemi Edit then made a deal with edmonton for Puljujarvi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Miller is a complete hockey player? LOL. I know you're not joking, but wish you were. Miller has defensive defencies in his game. He's not a 200 feet player, which means he ain't a "complete player". c'mon now. Sure, he is the only one, or the only one you focus on, and 8 m reasons why you should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coho8888 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 19 hours ago, Warhippy said: We also acquired Luca Sbisa in the Kesler trade and he was in our top 4. So...he was/is a top 4 defenseman or? nope. He wasn't protected in the expansion draft. Remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 17 minutes ago, Spoosh said: Not saying you are wrong, but in Bo’s defense - he has been improving steadily since coming into the league. So I don’t look at this as a one time thing for him. He’ll decline at some point as many do but he has been building up towards this for years. I for one have always been pleased with his game and how it has improved through the years. 9 years already , I’d say it’s a flash peak and back to mediocre, or less…. Just like LE did , played it safe wanting the money and not playing too hard for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: LARGER THAN LIFE PERSONALITY?? why , because he is a good interview? I think your manifesting his good qualities and thinking their negative in a room ?? He has been the only true leader on this team since he arrived. Has openly praised the young players he is with,. raved about Podz and the type of player he is. Bo has been here 9 years, quiet , soft, and a career year before his UFA contract. I’ve never seen him praise a teammate , without something short and cliche. Thats soft culture, Thats negative value.. and a declining asset. Sam... We'll see soon enough what Miller's influence on the team going forward will be. It will be either really positive or really negative. Bo's absents will bring to light what's happening. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 7 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Why do you keep trying to defend him? He's scored 9 goals, can't skate, can't kill penalties, and is not even on our first unit PP. But he's getting paid $6.65 million. He can't be traded so his agent has to get involved to try and pump his tires to find a trade partner. It's quite strange how some need to defend this guy until the end... Yo Petey, I thought Brock was your buddy, take it easy on him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Imagine if Lou flips him at the TDL. He's only on a 4M cap hit now, much tastier. Yeah... Then imagine Bo twisting an ankle and not being able to play until preseason.... Fat chance of flipping him then... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Why do you keep trying to defend him? He's scored 9 goals, can't skate, can't kill penalties, and is not even on our first unit PP. But he's getting paid $6.65 million. He can't be traded so his agent has to get involved to try and pump his tires to find a trade partner. It's quite strange how some need to defend this guy until the end... Deflect away from your initial point, likely cause it was you talking out your ass. Very nice. Yes, he has 9 goals. He's struggled to put the puck in the net. But he's far from this trash bag player you all claim him to be. And I don't know if you know this, but it's been reported that there is a lot of interest in Boeser. Trades don't just fall outta the sky like you wish they did. This thing called cap exists. Is he worth his 6.6mil. No, but he has talent and he plays hard. I'd take him at 6mil everyday of the week. He got squeezed outta the top PP, and still managed to keep his point production around where it's been his whole career. If he succeeds on the PP, you'll just say he's coasting on Miller and Petey. Now that he's producing off the PP, you make up BS like it's all secondary assists, when it isn't so you just ignored that pushback when I actually gave you facts. Now you're cooking him for putting up .64 points per game without the top PP. Keep moving the goal posts bud. Can't kill penalties, but I don't know if you're paying attention but our team is historically bad on the PK. Nobody on this team can kill penalties. But you're gonna go around jerking off Petey like he's a god two way player I bet. Facts don't matter here. Personal feelings do. You hate the guy, you'll move goal posts around to push this narrative. When you get hit with facts, you'll just ignore them. I am just gonna ignore you man. I can't deal with people like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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