spook007 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: Not much doubt that it is Petey's team now. Still hoping Miller gets moved as well. IMO one of the issues PA has had to deal with is the trade history of the Canucks. My impression was that other GM's thought that if they played the deals out down to the wire that they would get a better deal. PA pulled the trigger on this one and appears to be decent enough value. My hope is that Bo will only score enough to keep the NYI in #13 draft spot. Didn't Trotz walk away from his coaching job there? Lou is known for his 'opinions'. The Isles have struggled ever since Trotz left. Maybe even before? Spot on... this will also keep other GMs guessing in the future, thus probably being more forth coming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Yo Petey, I thought Brock was your buddy, take it easy on him! Meh, new flow is my buddy now. Old flow is history... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 11 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said: or trade Milller for Jesperi Kotkaniemi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, Hogs & Podz said: Sam... We'll see soon enough what Miller's influence on the team going forward will be. It will be either really positive or really negative. Bo's absents will bring to light what's happening. The absence plaguing us is Demkos. This is an issue. If he is not back by the end of Feb .. ?? these are the issues : Boeser, Myers, Demko, Stillman Pearson . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, spook007 said: Yeah... Then imagine Bo twisting an ankle and not being able to play until preseason.... Fat chance of flipping him then... People keep talking about Bo getting injured and costing us the trade, he's lost like 30-40 games to injury in the last 9 years. Chances of him having a season ending injury were pretty low but I get the panic. If he did cop a nasty injury though I wonder if we could have negotiated a much cheaper deal, surely he'd be forced to take Allvin's initial offer (it was probably around 7.5M)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Water Walker Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 21 hours ago, R3aL said: Think we a due a hit on a Fin here.. For real. Elite prospect + Petey = Superstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Deflect away from your initial point, likely cause it was you talking out your ass. Very nice. Yes, he has 9 goals. He's struggled to put the puck in the net. But he's far from this trash bag player you all claim him to be. And I don't know if you know this, but it's been reported that there is a lot of interest in Boeser. Trades don't just fall outta the sky like you wish they did. This thing called cap exists. Is he worth his 6.6mil. No, but he has talent and he plays hard. I'd take him at 6mil everyday of the week. He got squeezed outta the top PP, and still managed to keep his point production around where it's been his whole career. If he succeeds on the PP, you'll just say he's coasting on Miller and Petey. Now that he's producing off the PP, you make up BS like it's all secondary assists, when it isn't so you just ignored that pushback when I actually gave you facts. Now you're cooking him for putting up .64 points per game without the top PP. Keep moving the goal posts bud. Can't kill penalties, but I don't know if you're paying attention but our team is historically bad on the PK. Nobody on this team can kill penalties. But you're gonna go around jerking off Petey like he's a god two way player I bet. Facts don't matter here. Personal feelings do. You hate the guy, you'll move goal posts around to push this narrative. When you get hit with facts, you'll just ignore them. I am just gonna ignore you man. I can't deal with people like you. Boeser sucks. I wanted them to let him go free and sign Zadorov . Kuzmenko, it was easy to see he could replace Boeser from watching his skating in the KHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted January 31 Popular Post Share Posted January 31 23 minutes ago, NorthWestNuck said: What drive? Miller doesn’t have drive, he’s the least likely to backcheck in the whole league. That’s not to say he’s not talented, he has amazing skill, sure. But when things aren’t going his way, he doesn’t dig deep and motivate his teammates. He tries to do everything himself and ends up coughing up the puck. Miller is a great player, but I don’t want his “drive” rubbing off on anyone. This "drive". Power forward stuff. And how do you know he doesn't motivate his teammates? I go to a lot of games and that's not what I see. When he "tried to to everything himself" last year it dug us out of a hole and DID get the others going. How quickly people forget. 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I'm hearing Bo will wear #14? Is this a thing or rumours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-NucksFan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 19 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Pettersson is our best player but I don’t feel he has the personality to deal with the media as much as a Captain is required to do. Bo handled it and Henrik was exceptional at it , it takes the right personality to deal with that especially after losses. You can see Petey hates dealing with it now I don’t think he’d want more of that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, -NucksFan said: Pettersson is our best player but I don’t feel he has the personality to deal with the media as much as a Captain is required to do. Bo handled it and Henrik was exceptional at it , it takes the right personality to deal with that especially after losses. You can see Petey hates dealing with it now I don’t think he’d want more of that. I agree. Keep him out of that spotlight and let him quietly go about his business. He does enough without having this burden placed on him. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: Boeser sucks. I wanted them to let him go free and sign Zadorov . Kuzmenko, it was easy to see he could replace Boeser from watching his skating in the KHL. Honestly, I also wanted them to let him go. Especially if they were going to sign another winger in Mikheyev. But I am not gonna pretend like he's ass. Management dropped the ball, but Boeser gets all the heat. The hate doesn't even make sense and is misdirected at Boeser when it shouldn't be. They signed him to a three year deal not even a year ago and are trying to shop him. That's bootleg af. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Im intrigued by Beauvillier. I can see a team building strategy of fast competent 2 way wingers to compliment JT / help him in the D zone. With Tocchet implementing a detail oriented system, it could help get the most out of Miller 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Didn’t realize Bo’s agent represents a lot of Isles players. Pat Morris represents Bailey, Cizakas, Martin, and Clutterbuck. Wouldn’t be surprised if that factored in for Lou. Clearly he’s done a lot of business with Bo’s agent. Should help in negotiations. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-NucksFan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, -DLC- said: I'm hearing Bo will wear #14? Is this a thing or rumours? Saw a NYI video posted with a jersey press being lifted to reveal Horvat 14 on it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted January 31 Popular Post Share Posted January 31 Just now, -NucksFan said: Saw a NYI video posted with a jersey press being lifted to reveal Horvat 14 on it BO-rrrrrows? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-NucksFan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, -DLC- said: I agree. Keep him out of that spotlight and let him quietly go about his business. He does enough without having this burden placed on him. Yep. He’s the ‘leader’ on the team but agree that he would do better going about his business and focus on that without having to deal with all the other stuff Schenn is a Captain personality but likely won’t be here for any length of time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-NucksFan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, -DLC- said: BO-rrrrrows? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 21 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Deflect away from your initial point, likely cause it was you talking out your ass. Very nice. Yes, he has 9 goals. He's struggled to put the puck in the net. But he's far from this trash bag player you all claim him to be. And I don't know if you know this, but it's been reported that there is a lot of interest in Boeser. Trades don't just fall outta the sky like you wish they did. This thing called cap exists. Is he worth his 6.6mil. No, but he has talent and he plays hard. I'd take him at 6mil everyday of the week. He got squeezed outta the top PP, and still managed to keep his point production around where it's been his whole career. If he succeeds on the PP, you'll just say he's coasting on Miller and Petey. Now that he's producing off the PP, you make up BS like it's all secondary assists, when it isn't so you just ignored that pushback when I actually gave you facts. Now you're cooking him for putting up .64 points per game without the top PP. Keep moving the goal posts bud. Can't kill penalties, but I don't know if you're paying attention but our team is historically bad on the PK. Nobody on this team can kill penalties. But you're gonna go around jerking off Petey like he's a god two way player I bet. Facts don't matter here. Personal feelings do. You hate the guy, you'll move goal posts around to push this narrative. When you get hit with facts, you'll just ignore them. I am just gonna ignore you man. I can't deal with people like you. I didn't ignore what you said and wasn't deflecting from your original point. To me, it doesn't make a difference whether 50% of his assists were primary or secondary because Boeser is being paid to be a goal scorer. If you think he is still being effective collecting primary assists then that's fine, we have a difference of opinion on that. He got squeezed out of the top PP? That's a stretch IMO. I think he got beat out by a better goal scorer who's in his rookie season and is already on pace for 35 goals. Kuzmenko drives play and can score even when he's playing on the 3rd line with AHL players. If you think Brock is still producing off of the first PP then that's fine, I look at his production from a goal scoring point of view, which quite frankly is what we've been looking at with Brock for the last 6 years. I don't recall anyone over the last 6 years saying that Brock is a great set up man and has this well rounded game. I always saw him as the trigger guy, which is what most people talked about in regards to Brock. I don't see the shot that Brock used to have. I don't see the skating either. I have watched video of Brock when he was a rookie and he is a completely different player now. He basically has had to reinvent his game, because he doesn't have that deadly one timer anymore and his skating has regressed. Most likely that is the reason why he is trying to be more of that set up man than in past years. In any event, we have a difference of opinion on Brock, and that is fine. I didn't mean to be a dick in my last post, so I apologize for that. Cheers... Edited January 31 by Elias Pettersson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kilgore Posted January 31 Popular Post Share Posted January 31 9 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Why do you keep trying to defend him? He's scored 9 goals, can't skate, can't kill penalties, and is not even on our first unit PP. But he's getting paid $6.65 million. He can't be traded so his agent has to get involved to try and pump his tires to find a trade partner. It's quite strange how some need to defend this guy until the end... Its difficult to rag on the guy. Not only because of his family tragedy but he's an engaging personality. At least he used to be. Its kind of sad watching him go from a Kuzmenko like joy, and ribbing teammates, to a more scowly frustrated player. But everything you point out about his present day game is correct. I've always suspected that that crash into the open door of the players bench in his first, or second? season, caused more back damage than reported. He's never been the same skater. And other injuries, hand area, may have hampered his shot. He was the golden boy, the Flow, who's shot from the half wall on the PP looked like a young Ovi. .Goalies couldn't stop him. Its quite sad. I think that kind of sympathy for him went a long way in the teams trust that Brock would have a come back season when they re-signed him. But that was a mistake in hindsight. Its clear now that he's only half the player he was in his rookie year. And its not only his shot, he fumbles the puck all the time. Easily gets checked. Never seems to win a board battle. Maybe his hand injury history is a factor. But hockey is a business. I think its imperative that we get something for Boeser and move on from him. I just don't know if any other GM will take him on. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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