higgyfan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 31 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Makes me wonder if Horvat will struggle with the Islanders, never really living up to the expectations considering how much they re-signed him for and gave up to get him. The eastern conference is tough and physical, with teams like Boston, Washington and the rival Rangers. Bo is a very solid guy (has he ever really been injured?), so you'd think he'd be a wrecking ball, but he plays a nice, fair game. Doesn't want to mess up his face if he wants to make more commercials with McDavid. I can see Islanders fans becoming impatient and their team missing the playoffs. Who knows, Lou might want to get this nightmare trade over with and behind them by giving VAN the 1st this year, even if they finish 10th. Canucks could possibly have two picks in the Top 10. Bo will be fine. As you have pointed out, he's a very durable player and will likely complete his contract with few injuries. This is his first time having linemates that have offensive upside, so he will continue to fill the net; if not at the rate he has this year. He will be great at the f-off, PP and maintain a +30 g; +65pt seasons for many years. Besides, he's being credited for waking up Barzal. I think it was a good trade for both teams, as Beauvillier wasn't working out and Raty or the 1st wouldn't help them out for some time. Sadly, imo, the Islanders are much like the Flames. On the verge of a rebuild, but still thinking they can be contenders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: After 7 games (short sample) Bo (27) - 3 goals 1 assist = 4 pts Beau (25) - 4 goals 2 assists = 6 pts Plus they gave the Canucks Raty and a 1st? Excellent trade, really liking the chemistry with Petey. Bottom line is that most players who go on a line with Petey will do very well. A real opportunity for Beau to re-establish his game. Allvin has the option of trading him if it is advantageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Beau has been great. With another year left on the contract, we'll see if he provides offence consistently. Regardless, if you can get 80% of a player's contributions for 50% of the price, you're doing well as a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 5 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Bo will be fine. As you have pointed out, he's a very durable player and will likely complete his contract with few injuries. This is his first time having linemates that have offensive upside, so he will continue to fill the net; if not at the rate he has this year. He will be great at the f-off, PP and maintain a +30 g; +65pt seasons for many years. Besides, he's being credited for waking up Barzal. I think it was a good trade for both teams, as Beauvillier wasn't working out and Raty or the 1st wouldn't help them out for some time. Sadly, imo, the Islanders are much like the Flames. On the verge of a rebuild, but still thinking they can be contenders. Have not heard how bad the injury to Barzal is? He hardly played any of the Boston game. NYI were in hard to make playoffs and if Barzal is gone they are hooped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 11 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Have not heard how bad the injury to Barzal is? He hardly played any of the Boston game. NYI were in hard to make playoffs and if Barzal is gone they are hooped. Well, as long as it keeps NYIs around the 13th - 15th mark in the draft... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, AnthonyG said: Also out hitting him too. Which apparently Islanders fans are pretty choked with Bo over his lack of physicality So, they didn't watch many Canucks games is my guess. They thought a 215 pound bull would be putting guys through the glass. They must be in real shock right now... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, AnthonyG said: Also out hitting him too. Which apparently Islanders fans are pretty choked with Bo over his lack of physicality Which forum are you reading this from? I’ve read HFBOARDS and they rave over how Bo is gelling with Barzel. But also feel he’s overpaid about $1M. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 11 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Well, in their defence, he sort of was. Islanders really needed to dump cap to make the trade work. And they’d also been trying to trade Beauvillier for the past year or so. Plus, he’d been playing at “negative value,” at least statistically, for the past 100+ games in New York. I think when you look at the trade on the day it was made, AB was a bit of a cap dump. I may even have said as much myself. But I also remember saying that I liked his chances to rebound, and could easily see him getting back to something much closer to the player he’d been trending toward a couple years earlier (when he had a very favourable statistical profile). Worth noting that one of the stated goals of this management team was to identify and target under-valued players in the early to mid-20s age group who might benefit from a change of scenery and could offer significant value to this team, at a relatively low cost of acquisition. It’s starting to look like Beauvillier might be one of these players, and a nice feather in the caps of the pro scouts and management team. The Islanders are one of my favourite eastern teams to watch if Canucks aren’t on. I have always like Beauvillier, he always competes and is heavy for a slightly smaller guy. I may get laughed at for saying this but I believe he is going to have a “Burrows” like effect on this team. He has played on a third line for a few seasons now with only spot duty on the top lines…all the sudden you put him on Peteys wing and watch him explode into a regular 50-60 point guy. Just like Burrows did with the Sedins. He was the perfect mix for them. Grit and determination, made space for then to make plays. AB compliments Kuzy and Petey very well. And he has the chops to keep doing it. As you said his point totals have been suppressed playing 3rd line minutes on a defence first team. But watching him through the years on the Islanders I always liked his game and have thought highly of him for a while. If you think back to it, the Islanders whether directly or indirectly have helped our franchise out immensely time over time. Bertuzzi and McCabe (then mccabe was flipped later down the road to help get Burke the 2nd and 3rd overall picks to draft sedins), Luongo was drafted and Islander, Richard Broudeur was an amazing goalie for us, I think we got him from them for a 4th rounder….anyways I’m rambling but our trades always turn out great with them. Crazy thing is the Bert (mccabe for sedin picks) and Brodeur trades eventually led us to stanley cup finals in 1982 and 2011…thanks Islanders!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: So, they didn't watch many Canucks games is my guess. They thought a 215 pound bull would be putting guys through the glass. They must be in real shock right now... So where did you read this from?? I’m trying to find something that backs that statement up about NYI fans being disappointed with Bo, but cannot find it on HFBoards, nyislestalk, and Reddit. Thanks!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, BPA said: Which forum are you reading this from? I’ve read HFBOARDS and they rave over how Bo is gelling with Barzel. But also feel he’s overpaid about $1M. seen it on NYI twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 5 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: After 7 games (short sample) Bo (27) - 3 goals 1 assist = 4 pts Beau (25) - 4 goals 2 assists = 6 pts Plus they gave the Canucks Raty and a 1st? Excellent trade, really liking the chemistry with Petey. The fact Miller has been doing well on faceoffs is a bonus. Thats where I thought we'd be hurt the most. Starting every faceoff without the puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 6 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: seen it on NYI twitter Thanks. Can’t seem to find any mention of it. Probably a case where some fans hate Bo and some fans love Bo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 6 minutes ago, BPA said: Thanks. Can’t seem to find any mention of it. Probably a case where some fans hate Bo and some fans love Bo. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 46 minutes ago, Attila Umbrus said: The Islanders are one of my favourite eastern teams to watch if Canucks aren’t on. I have always like Beauvillier, he always competes and is heavy for a slightly smaller guy. I may get laughed at for saying this but I believe he is going to have a “Burrows” like effect on this team. He has played on a third line for a few seasons now with only spot duty on the top lines…all the sudden you put him on Peteys wing and watch him explode into a regular 50-60 point guy. Just like Burrows did with the Sedins. He was the perfect mix for them. Grit and determination, made space for then to make plays. AB compliments Kuzy and Petey very well. And he has the chops to keep doing it. As you said his point totals have been suppressed playing 3rd line minutes on a defence first team. But watching him through the years on the Islanders I always liked his game and have thought highly of him for a while. If you think back to it, the Islanders whether directly or indirectly have helped our franchise out immensely time over time. Bertuzzi and McCabe (then mccabe was flipped later down the road to help get Burke the 2nd and 3rd overall picks to draft sedins), Luongo was drafted and Islander, Richard Broudeur was an amazing goalie for us, I think we got him from them for a 4th rounder….anyways I’m rambling but our trades always turn out great with them. Crazy thing is the Bert (mccabe for sedin picks) and Brodeur trades eventually led us to stanley cup finals in 1982 and 2011…thanks Islanders!! Love the Burrows comparison. He’s a good interview, and seems to be grateful for his spot on the top line. Hope you’re right! If the three of them have great chemistry, it frees up Mikheyev to skate on JT’s line! Or even a checking line 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Just now, Kenny Powers said: Love the Burrows comparison. He’s a good interview, and seems to be grateful for his spot on the top line. Hope you’re right! If the three of them have great chemistry, it frees up Mikheyev to skate on JT’s line! Or even a checking line Another rationale for keeping Miller is his anchoring a 2nd line that might have Boeser on it. If PA does not trade Boeser then having Miller at C would probably help Boeser stabilize his game. Not super crazy about this idea as I still hope that Boeser is moved for a defenseman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 minute ago, Kenny Powers said: Love the Burrows comparison. He’s a good interview, and seems to be grateful for his spot on the top line. Hope you’re right! If the three of them have great chemistry, it frees up Mikheyev to skate on JT’s line! Or even a checking line I think Mik with JT makes a ton of sense. And Podz on the RW. Big boy line, plays a heavy and fast north/south game. Petey/Kuz/AB are then free to play a little more east/west…AB being a nice mix of north/south element that can skate and be aggressive on forecheck to retrieve pucks ala Burr for the Sedins. It works well that kinda combo. If you find the right players. That does leave Boeser and Garland in a bit of a quagmire. However if I were to keep one I would say Garly because he brings more bottom line intangibles that Boes does. And can move up the line up as needed. More and more I think Boeser will be traded. He’s actually having an ok year so if we retain some salary he is very moveable IMO 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, BPA said: Which forum are you reading this from? I’ve read HFBOARDS and they rave over how Bo is gelling with Barzel. But also feel he’s overpaid about $1M. Same at Reddit. They like Bo and Barzal and think he’s injected some life into the team. They’re not huge fans of the contract but blame Lou for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Don't worry boys I already hit them up and told them they can have Beauvillier for a 1st and bolduc to try and salvage the season still 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce000 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 11 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: Don't worry boys I already hit them up and told them they can have Beauvillier for a 1st and bolduc to try and salvage the season still Hello 2024 top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 13 minutes ago, Bounce000 said: Hello 2024 top 5 pick. Going to be tight this year for sure. If I'm betting, looking at the standings, I bet we end up with number 12 pick this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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