Oregon.Duck Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 5 minutes ago, stawns said: Plus retention on Bo, so not even any cap savings. Plus AB has another season at $4.1m Why would we need to save cap this year? Literally 4 months of paying him. That’s all. Edited January 31 by Oregon.Duck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 2 minutes ago, McBackup said: Incredibly underwhelming return. If this deal was made at the deadline I could swallow it as there might not have been a better offer, but I have to wonder what the incentive was to make this deal now and not wait to drive the price up. I imagine they don’t want to risk there being no more chairs when the music stops. I like them getting ahead of it as there are a lot of forwards available this deadline and no guarantee the offers would have gotten better. Not to mention the earlier we start really tanking the better. Ill be interested to see how this value compares to what some of the other high profile players go for. Like if O’Reilly goes for more then fans can get mad. Edited January 31 by DeNiro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 minutes ago, stawns said: Top 12 protected is embarrassing Why would any team NOT do this? Embarrassing? Calm down lol. What were the alternatives? Carolina? Boston? New Jersey? Seattle? Each of these teams were going to finish way ahead of NYI anyway. Canucks would have been picking around 23-32 if they received a first rounder from one of these teams. Worst case scenario they are picking around 20th this year or roll the dice on 2024 where you have a NYI team that probably isn't going to be much better. What am I missing? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlastPast Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, stawns said: Plus retention on Bo, so not even any cap savings. Plus AB has another season at $4.1m I wasn't aware of any retention. I'm not concerned so much with the cap hit this year as next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 22 minutes ago, stawns said: I prefer a C prospect, but the add on should have been a damn, not a f*cking winger I don't know who they were gunna get that moves the needle, Dobson/Pulock/Pelech wasn't happening. Bruins didn't even want to move Carlo. I'm not as down on Beauvillier. Seems like a legit top 9 player that can add some speed & score a bit. Worst case retain 50% next year & recoup what you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BarnBurner Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, McBackup said: Incredibly underwhelming return. If this deal was made at the deadline I could swallow it as there might not have been a better offer, but I have to wonder what the incentive was to make this deal now and not wait to drive the price up. What if that backfires? What if they didn't trade him and then he walks for nothing? At least we received some potential assets. It's better than what Calgary got for Gaudreau. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insensitive Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 So Petey gets the "C" right? Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, Oregon.Duck said: Why would we need to save cal this year? To use at the deadline? Or to have next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 26 minutes ago, coryberg said: We acquired him and he is #4 on our D in ice time. Just wishful thinking We also acquired Luca Sbisa in the Kesler trade and he was in our top 4. So...he was/is a top 4 defenseman or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, Coconuts said: He doesn't have to fix it, he just has to help, they aren't far from the playoff bar He'll help their possession game for one I just don’t see it. They’re more than one player away from being a playoff team. That division is just too tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, lmm said: I too wanted him traded I have been preparing for it for years nothing he has done through the last 2 negotiations said to me that he was a lifer here I think he will flourish when not burdened with the C in Boston I am curious about this, I think he will flourish without that burden as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, BarnBurner said: What if that backfires? What if they didn't trade him and then he walks for nothing? At least we received some potential assets. It's better than what Calgary got for Gaudreau. What if Connor McDavid demand to go to the Canucks at 50% retained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFaithfulCap Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) i don't like the new beau, age, production and cap hit. Raty i'll reserve judgment. Hard nosed finns with decent size are the kind of two-way center we need. I was underwhelmed, i really think people don't want to deal with us right now. This is a deep draft, we could use this pick on a dman which are undervalued due to the forward talent. Maybe the isles will suck and we can get a high pick again next year. I'm underwhelmed as others have said, but def helps the tank. Fire sale on now Edited January 31 by OldFaithfulCap finn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, stawns said: Top 12 protected is embarrassing It makes sense for the Isles. If Horvat doesn’t make them better, they want to pick this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, elvis15 said: Yeah, hoping for a good result with that. Either just outside 12, or high next year. Something to look forward to I guess. The standings won't change much from right now. This is the isles loading up... Everyone below them more or less wants to lose and everyone above them still has yet to add. They are 110% staying in the 13 to 16 range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Down by the River said: Why would any team NOT do this? Embarrassing? Calm down lol. What were the alternatives? Carolina? Boston? New Jersey? Seattle? Each of these teams were going to finish way ahead of NYI anyway. Canucks would have been picking around 23-32 if they received a first rounder from one of these teams. Worst case scenario they are picking around 20th this year or roll the dice on 2024 where you have a NYI team that probably isn't going to be much better. What am I missing? There's 5 weeks to the tdl.......why not wait for the screws to turn a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: I don't know who they were gunna get that moves the needle, Dobson/Pulock/Pelech wasn't happening. Bruins didn't even want to move Carlo. I'm not as down on Beauvillier. Seems like a legit top 9 player that can add some speed & score a bit. Worst case retain 50% next year & recoup what you can. It’s an okay add on. Not the end of the world. But he’s an UFA next year, so it’s fine. Could be flipped at TDL next year. Edited January 31 by J-23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Here's my prediction for the results of this trade: - Bo Horvat will sign an extension with NYI for a reasonable price... Canucks fans will be surprised how cheap. - Bo will score close to or more than 50 goals in total for the season after being placed on the NYI #1 PP unit... he will do the same the next 2 years. - NYI will make the playoffs... and the Canucks will have a pick not eligible for the lottery and one which will not give them much of a return. - Anthony Beauvillier will play on the 3rd line in Vancouver... will continue as a serviceable but uninspiring forward. - Aatu Raty will play in the AHL for the next few years... will end up as a 3rd line center for the Canucks for a few years. Trade will go down in Canuck's history as the second worst after the Cam Neely fiasco. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon.Duck Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, stawns said: To use at the deadline? Or to have next year? Retention on Bo doesn’t effect is next year. It does impact our ability to bring in contracts, but heck if we’re selling, maybe it’ll force JR to sell for picks. I’m happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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