AngryElf Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Hi y’all. So, the rumour mill was abuzz for the months leading up to yesterday’s trade. There’s been a lot going on in terms of insider reports, etc, so I’m curious what deal people would’ve taken if they were in charge. Keep in mind these are just the frameworks, I don’t think they’re the exact deals that could’ve been in place. Deal 1: Bo retained for Beau, Raty, First The deal. We’ve heard your thoughts already, but was it truly the best available? Deal 2: Bo retained to Boston for Carlo, first, Smith This is the likeliest deal from the bruins, although it was never revealed to be an offer. I would’ve loved Lysell, but doubt we’d get him. Carlo has concussion history too, but is much more established than Raty and Beau. Deal 3: Bo to Canes for Morrow, Kotkaniemi, mid pick This is, imo, the most likely deal from the Canes (with tiny pieces added to both sides to make the cap work). Apparently they were only interested if they could talk extension first, but ended up backing off. Deal 4: Bo retained to Butt Kraken for Shane Wright This was the rumoured deal from a noted Seattle insider, and the guy I believe broke the Giordano to Toronto deal weeks in advance. I expect Seattle is another casualty of not getting to talk extension, but I’m not sure. Remember, Bo would torch us for the next 8 years if this went through. Also, is this a case where quantity over quality is better for us going forwards? Let me know what you think! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Tie between 1 and 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I like the deal we got, however my preference would be 3,4,1,2 in that order. our focus should have been C and RD and I think we accomplished that with Raty (C) and 1st (RD of choice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Okay, but only one of these deals existed in real life. I'd say hypothetical Deal #2 with BOS. Smith's contract ends after the season, so that would be $3.1 off the books, and Carlo fills in that RD spot very nicely at a cheap cap hit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Wrong forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kanucks25 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I doubt Wright was ever seriously on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, AngryElf said: Hi y’all. So, the rumour mill was abuzz for the months leading up to yesterday’s trade. There’s been a lot going on in terms of insider reports, etc, so I’m curious what deal people would’ve taken if they were in charge. Keep in mind these are just the frameworks, I don’t think they’re the exact deals that could’ve been in place. Deal 1: Bo retained for Beau, Raty, First The deal. We’ve heard your thoughts already, but was it truly the best available? Deal 2: Bo retained to Boston for Carlo, first, Smith This is the likeliest deal from the bruins, although it was never revealed to be an offer. I would’ve loved Lysell, but doubt we’d get him. Carlo has concussion history too, but is much more established than Raty and Beau. Deal 3: Bo to Canes for Morrow, Kotkaniemi, mid pick This is, imo, the most likely deal from the Canes (with tiny pieces added to both sides to make the cap work). Apparently they were only interested if they could talk extension first, but ended up backing off. Deal 4: Bo retained to Butt Kraken for Shane Wright This was the rumoured deal from a noted Seattle insider, and the guy I believe broke the Giordano to Toronto deal weeks in advance. I expect Seattle is another casualty of not getting to talk extension, but I’m not sure. Remember, Bo would torch us for the next 8 years if this went through. Also, is this a case where quantity over quality is better for us going forwards? Let me know what you think! Deal 4 would be the only deal that is attractive if it was offered. Deal 3 offers similar value but if you view Kotkaniemi as cap dump, that's 6 year cap dump for a low 1st rounder and Morrow. Morrow is still in college I think so it's not clear how close to being NHL ready whereas Raty is probably a year or two at most away from a regular NHL role. Quite a high chance that the trade doesn't work out for us with all 3 pieces being duds. Deal 2 is the worst here. That 1st is really low first, likely even lower than Carolina's. We don't need Carlo for next season, we are going to retool so we will suck at least one more season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, AngryElf said: Hi y’all. So, the rumour mill was abuzz for the months leading up to yesterday’s trade. There’s been a lot going on in terms of insider reports, etc, so I’m curious what deal people would’ve taken if they were in charge. Keep in mind these are just the frameworks, I don’t think they’re the exact deals that could’ve been in place. Deal 1: Bo retained for Beau, Raty, First The deal. We’ve heard your thoughts already, but was it truly the best available? Deal 2: Bo retained to Boston for Carlo, first, Smith This is the likeliest deal from the bruins, although it was never revealed to be an offer. I would’ve loved Lysell, but doubt we’d get him. Carlo has concussion history too, but is much more established than Raty and Beau. Deal 3: Bo to Canes for Morrow, Kotkaniemi, mid pick This is, imo, the most likely deal from the Canes (with tiny pieces added to both sides to make the cap work). Apparently they were only interested if they could talk extension first, but ended up backing off. Deal 4: Bo retained to Butt Kraken for Shane Wright This was the rumoured deal from a noted Seattle insider, and the guy I believe broke the Giordano to Toronto deal weeks in advance. I expect Seattle is another casualty of not getting to talk extension, but I’m not sure. Remember, Bo would torch us for the next 8 years if this went through. Also, is this a case where quantity over quality is better for us going forwards? Let me know what you think! 10 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: Tie between 1 and 4 Except 4 was shot down numerous times. It was never on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) You're comparing a real deal to fictional deals. Of course the made up dreams of CDC are better than real life. Which deal would you do? The one we got? Or Bo to Edmonton for McDavid :D For the sake of discussion. I'd rank them 4-3-1-2. Wright is a top 5 pick, much cheaper. We get borderline no cap back. I like Morrow and Kotkaniemi, late first is pretty much a high second. But we're not able to draft a Morrow with any of our firsts anyway. So he makes up for the 1st round pick being meh. Edited January 31, 2023 by N7Nucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I heard there was a deal involving Patrick Kane + 1st Round 2023 draft pick for Bo Horvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, AngryElf said: Hi y’all. So, the rumour mill was abuzz for the months leading up to yesterday’s trade. There’s been a lot going on in terms of insider reports, etc, so I’m curious what deal people would’ve taken if they were in charge. Keep in mind these are just the frameworks, I don’t think they’re the exact deals that could’ve been in place. Deal 1: Bo retained for Beau, Raty, First The deal. We’ve heard your thoughts already, but was it truly the best available? Deal 2: Bo retained to Boston for Carlo, first, Smith This is the likeliest deal from the bruins, although it was never revealed to be an offer. I would’ve loved Lysell, but doubt we’d get him. Carlo has concussion history too, but is much more established than Raty and Beau. Deal 3: Bo to Canes for Morrow, Kotkaniemi, mid pick This is, imo, the most likely deal from the Canes (with tiny pieces added to both sides to make the cap work). Apparently they were only interested if they could talk extension first, but ended up backing off. Deal 4: Bo retained to Butt Kraken for Shane Wright This was the rumoured deal from a noted Seattle insider, and the guy I believe broke the Giordano to Toronto deal weeks in advance. I expect Seattle is another casualty of not getting to talk extension, but I’m not sure. Remember, Bo would torch us for the next 8 years if this went through. Also, is this a case where quantity over quality is better for us going forwards? Let me know what you think! Well, with the canes deal, there was no way in hell that they were gonna offer morrow in any package. Best you might have gotten was nikishin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Want quantity ans defence. 3, 2, 1, 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Number 4 of course but that was never on the table. 2 and 3 are much worse than 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, AngryElf said: Hi y’all. So, the rumour mill was abuzz for the months leading up to yesterday’s trade. There’s been a lot going on in terms of insider reports, etc, so I’m curious what deal people would’ve taken if they were in charge. Keep in mind these are just the frameworks, I don’t think they’re the exact deals that could’ve been in place. Deal 1: Bo retained for Beau, Raty, First The deal. We’ve heard your thoughts already, but was it truly the best available? Deal 2: Bo retained to Boston for Carlo, first, Smith This is the likeliest deal from the bruins, although it was never revealed to be an offer. I would’ve loved Lysell, but doubt we’d get him. Carlo has concussion history too, but is much more established than Raty and Beau. Deal 3: Bo to Canes for Morrow, Kotkaniemi, mid pick This is, imo, the most likely deal from the Canes (with tiny pieces added to both sides to make the cap work). Apparently they were only interested if they could talk extension first, but ended up backing off. Deal 4: Bo retained to Butt Kraken for Shane Wright This was the rumoured deal from a noted Seattle insider, and the guy I believe broke the Giordano to Toronto deal weeks in advance. I expect Seattle is another casualty of not getting to talk extension, but I’m not sure. Remember, Bo would torch us for the next 8 years if this went through. Also, is this a case where quantity over quality is better for us going forwards? Let me know what you think! 2 3 and 4 never happened and never would happen. Boston isn't going to remove their best defensive RHD behind Charlie. That isn't improving a contender. Canes wouldn't offer Morrow straight up for horvat. They value him like he's the next Dobson. I'd consider Wright but meh he's likely to be a bust. Raty and a 1st is a better gamble then just Wright imo. Both are gambles obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce000 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I’m sure whichever deal happened in whichever alternative universe out there. Canucks fans will still be pissed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 If #4 was ever real you do that all day everyday. Other than that, the deal we git is probably the best one. Koka is a 6 year cap dump so no to that and Carlo as the primoum player coming back is a bit older than what I like and could be a concussion away from hanging his skates up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 The deal they got is real and I don't think it is bad at all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Butt Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Lol really he is dealt and now you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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