DownUndaCanuck Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I absolutely would not condone it and if we lose Demko we're subjecting ourselves to 3-5 years of pure tanking rebuild. But for argument's sake, here's what a deal would probably look like: Demko to LAK for Quick + 1st + Spence They're not giving us Clarke, their first is currently a 22nd OA and Quick is just a cap dump. I'd almost argue that even that is a 2nd or 3rd round pick too little value. Anyway, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it if it was Clarke and a first. No one means more to a hockey team than their goalie. I know RDs are hard to come by but young solid goalies are moreso. Anyone can just sign a random UFA goalie but Demko single handedly held us in games the last 2 or 3 years. Then again, the way we've done Bruce and Bo dirty, it would make sense that this management throw their young saviour goalie in the trash too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I don’t know why anyone would want Tyler Myers 2.0 anyway. Brandt Clarke is bustaroo right @Alflives 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN. Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 10 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: I absolutely would not condone it and if we lose Demko we're subjecting ourselves to 3-5 years of pure tanking rebuild. But for argument's sake, here's what a deal would probably look like: Demko to LAK for Quick + 1st + Spence They're not giving us Clarke, their first is currently a 22nd OA and Quick is just a cap dump. I'd almost argue that even that is a 2nd or 3rd round pick too little value. Anyway, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it if it was Clarke and a first. No one means more to a hockey team than their goalie. I know RDs are hard to come by but young solid goalies are moreso. Anyone can just sign a random UFA goalie but Demko single handedly held us in games the last 2 or 3 years. Then again, the way we've done Bruce and Bo dirty, it would make sense that this management throw their young saviour goalie in the trash too. If the rumours are true and Demkos hips are an issue moving forward, he won't be the difference in being competitive over that 3-5 year timeline. Hopefully he comes back this year and shows hes still capable. Only then can we really start to talk about potential value. As it sits right now, we'd be selling low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 26 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: I absolutely would not condone it and if we lose Demko we're subjecting ourselves to 3-5 years of pure tanking rebuild. But for argument's sake, here's what a deal would probably look like: Demko to LAK for Quick + 1st + Spence They're not giving us Clarke, their first is currently a 22nd OA and Quick is just a cap dump. I'd almost argue that even that is a 2nd or 3rd round pick too little value. Anyway, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it if it was Clarke and a first. No one means more to a hockey team than their goalie. I know RDs are hard to come by but young solid goalies are moreso. Anyone can just sign a random UFA goalie but Demko single handedly held us in games the last 2 or 3 years. Then again, the way we've done Bruce and Bo dirty, it would make sense that this management throw their young saviour goalie in the trash too. Can't see it all. Just can't imagine LA would disrespect Quick that way. He's a legacy player and they aren't going to end a 16 year tenure treating him like a cap dump. Demko had a dreadful season and is coming back from injury + goalies don't typically have much trade value. Goalies aren't plug & play and need time to adjust to new systems. It took Fleury well into this season to get settled in Minnesota after being traded at last TDL. Copley is also 15-3-1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaramel MacKhiato Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I feel like LAK is the main spot... maybe Buffalo as another option? If we could get Durzi/Clarke + 1st + Quick i'd be up for that. Quick would be to balance cap this season. Not sure if you could try and pry someone else out of there too or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN. Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, Makaramel MacKhiato said: I feel like LAK is the main spot... maybe Buffalo as another option? If we could get Durzi/Clarke + 1st + Quick i'd be up for that. Quick would be to balance cap this season. Not sure if you could try and pry someone else out of there too or not? We should trade him to Buffalo for Dahlin, a 1st, and Tuch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, Alflives said: If we are planning to actually tank, which I don't think we are, then we should trade Demko. He's too good and steals too many games. But since we aren't tanking, I'm hoping we keep him. He's top five in the league. hehehe top 5 nope, maybe top 20 , have u seen his play this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Every time someone on CDC proposes getting Clarke from LA take a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 hours ago, MattWN. said: Come on man.. Nobody is trading a #2 RHD for Demko. Even without the injury, and the terrible play this year, that is unrealistic. Vanecek + 2nd - got a 3rd, 2nd. Georgiev - got a 3rd, 3rd, 5th. Fleury - got a 2nd. Nedeljkovic - 3rd Hill - 2nd The value of defenseman are head and shoulders above the value of a goaltender. Alex Romanov - 1st round pick Nick Leddy - Two young players and a 2nd. Travis f**king Hamonic - 3rd Chariot - 1st, prospect, 4th Manson - Prospect, 2nd Brenden Dillon - 2nd, 2nd Ristolenien - 1st, 2nd, 2nd Seth Jones (Only top pairing (at the time) d on the list) - 1st, 1st, Boqvist, 2nd. It's not happening dude. Only thing is, last year you could argue Demko was one of the most exciting young goalies in the league. Looking like a surefire vezina candidate. Fleury is on his last legs & was a UFA. Teams have the opportunity of Demko at a below market value 5 million per and for 3 more seasons. I'd say that's worth something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, KKnight said: Only thing is, last year you could argue Demko was one of the most exciting young goalies in the league. Looking like a surefire vezina candidate. Fleury is on his last legs & was a UFA. Teams have the opportunity of Demko at a below market value 5 million per and for 3 more seasons. I'd say that's worth something. Except he wasn’t a vezina candidate. You can argue it all you like. But he got one 3rd place vote from a member of the Vancouver media. That’s it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Except he wasn’t a vezina candidate. You can argue it all you like. But he got one 3rd place vote from a member of the Vancouver media. That’s it. Actually it's GMs that vote on the Vezina. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, mll said: Actually it's GMs that vote on the Vezina. My mistake. He still got a single 3rd place vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Demko is a good goalie not a magician. Look what he was playing behind. There are limits to how long a great goalie can support a bunch of bums. The unfortunate thing is that everybody is now questioning Demko's ability. Well, maybe it's fortunate for the Canucks because they couldn't get a whole lot for him now and since he's on a good deal for 3 more years they should keep him. On the stealth tank, why trade him? Just be over cautious and keep him on IR until they drop a place or 2 in the standings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 28 minutes ago, qwijibo said: My mistake. He still got a single 3rd place vote Which reinforces your point - GMs, who are the ones to make trades, didn't view him as a Vezina calibre goalie last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverHabitant Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 11 minutes ago, mll said: Which reinforces your point - GMs, who are the ones to make trades, didn't view him as a Vezina calibre goalie last season. I mean Shesterkin won it in a landslide last year. Demko finished 7th, which is exactly where I viewed him to be at last year... 7th best in the league. People still have the bubble Demko imprinted on their mind if they think that he's a Vezina calibre goalie. 5th to 10th best in the league is where I'd put Demko. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 12 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: I mean Shesterkin won it in a landslide last year. Demko finished 7th, which is exactly where I viewed him to be at last year... 7th best in the league. People still have the bubble Demko imprinted on their mind if they think that he's a Vezina calibre goalie. 5th to 10th best in the league is where I'd put Demko. He tied 5 players for 7th. Each with a single third place vote. So really not remotely in the Vezina conversation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 34 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: I mean Shesterkin won it in a landslide last year. Demko finished 7th, which is exactly where I viewed him to be at last year... 7th best in the league. People still have the bubble Demko imprinted on their mind if they think that he's a Vezina calibre goalie. 5th to 10th best in the league is where I'd put Demko. Yup. Only a Canuck hater would say a healthy Demko isn’t a top 7 goalie. He’s our most important player. He’d instantly be the best player on a lot of teams, like the Habs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Based on the precedence for Goalie returns, I can’t see a Demko trade making sense, unless he’s ruining our tank, and dragging us back to the mushy middle… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverHabitant Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 5 hours ago, qwijibo said: He tied 5 players for 7th. Each with a single third place vote. So really not remotely in the Vezina conversation That's what I said in my post, not a Vezina conversation goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN. Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 17 hours ago, KKnight said: Only thing is, last year you could argue Demko was one of the most exciting young goalies in the league. Looking like a surefire vezina candidate. Fleury is on his last legs & was a UFA. Teams have the opportunity of Demko at a below market value 5 million per and for 3 more seasons. I'd say that's worth something. I'm sure he was worth something.. but it sure as f**k wasn't a top pairing RHD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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