HKSR Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 February 22nd, 2023, it appears there is not enough chemistry between Barzal and Horvat. After several games, it appears Horvat is not finding the back of the net nearly as much as expected. Why did Horvat score so many goals in Vancouver? Who was his key linemate? J.T. MILLER Lou picks up the phone to acquire existing chemistry... To NYI: J.T. Miller To VAN: Calle Odelius Josh Bailey 2nd Round Pick (2024) Miller and Horvat reunite, and the goals start coming again for Horvat. Canucks acquire a promising 18yo defenceman and add another pick. Bailey is basically a dump for them to make this work cap wise. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Not that I wouldn't want to get out from under this looming Miller deal but, BoHo gets a fresh start and gets stuck with Miller for 7 more years - I'm sure he'd appreciate that. Miller's essentially the reason BoHo has to uproot his entire family and start over. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canucks-culture-problem-drama-leaders https://www.mapleleafsinsider.com/Canucks-forward-has-reportedly-created-a-rift-in-locker-room-labeled-as-a-bit-of-a-prck-194563 https://www.hockeypatrol.com/Insider-Reveals-JT-Miller-Reputation-in-the-Vancouver-Locker-Room-and-it-Not-Good-194569 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highstickin Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Don't think this move makes sense for the Islanders cap wise. It would be a +3M to the cap long term to take on Miller which leaves them with just under $4M in the offseason to sign a back up goalie and depth players. Even if they were willing to try that, they will need to prepare for Sorokin's raise in 2024 offseason. Conveniently, Josh Bailey's $5M contract comes off the books that offseason, paving the way for Sorokin. If they trade Bailey for the long term contract of Miller, they will then need to find a way to open up that space. Yes the cap may go up before then, but I would hesitate to rely on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 I saw the Oilers dynasty reconstructed in LA and then on the Rangers. Hey why not try to reconstruct the legendary 2021-23 Vancouver Canucks somewhere else... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 When I saw theis I thought it was going to be Hoglander for Wahlstrom...I was wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, Neutral said: When I saw theis I thought it was going to be Hoglander for Wahlstrom...I was wrong! I'm ok with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Dunno, that's a lot of cap to juggle going forward. Both Horvat's and Miller's raises kicking in at once. I agree that they could use an upgrade on Bailey but I don't think it'll be Miller. A Miller move probably would have worked before the Horvat trade and signing, not so sure now. If anything Miller's probably a better fit in Carolina as a Pacioretty replacement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 51 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Dunno, that's a lot of cap to juggle going forward. Both Horvat's and Miller's raises kicking in at once. I agree that they could use an upgrade on Bailey but I don't think it'll be Miller. A Miller move probably would have worked before the Horvat trade and signing, not so sure now. If anything Miller's probably a better fit in Carolina as a Pacioretty replacement. Honestly I think they would do really well. They got a few shots left with this team. Miller and Bo IMO puts them in cup conversation and they aren't even in a wc right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Woooo, did you see that Trouba hit last night? The Rangers are gonna rock some teams in the playoffs, so maybe their division rivals need to add a cheap Dman? (RD) John Carlson is/has been out for the Caps. (RD) Luke Schenn to WAS for (RD) Vincent Iorio 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 If OP's return is all that we get, I might rather just keep him and see what we get for Boeser, Garland etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 hours ago, hammertime said: Honestly I think they would do really well. They got a few shots left with this team. Miller and Bo IMO puts them in cup conversation and they aren't even in a wc right now. I've no doubt Miller could fit the Isles well, I just question the fit capwise. Barzal is jumping from 7M to 9.1, Horvat is jumping from 4.1 to 8.5, moving Bailey out helps the fit this season but Miller will also be jumping from 5.25 to 8 so that's still an additional 3M tacked on to their cap. Varlamov's 5M expiring and any cap increase would help but they've still got a roster to fill out. At the very least they'd need to replace Varlamov and probably Mayfield. It looks to me like it'd all be real tight. And that's with raises to Dobson, Sorokin, and Romanov on the horizon. It may not be impossible but I dunno, it seems like a lot of cap to try and fit in. Miller to the Canes would be a much more straightforward fit, Pacioretty's expiring 7M would largely pay for Miller on it's own. Sooner or later the Canes are going to have to actually get off the fence or risk being a team that's viewed as a contender who never goes for it. Canes don't like term attached to older players supposedly but who knows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph. Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 6:48 PM, NUCKER67 said: Woooo, did you see that Trouba hit last night? The Rangers are gonna rock some teams in the playoffs, so maybe their division rivals need to add a cheap Dman? (RD) John Carlson is/has been out for the Caps. (RD) Luke Schenn to WAS for (RD) Vincent Iorio I really like Iorio. I've been contemplating something between VAN-WSH, surrounding him and probably Mantha (underperforming, I'd say) to help them clear space for Carlson to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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