Dazzle Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, FlyLow_ said: Don't love it. We have enough soft wingers and shit attitudes on the team. This kid flat out refuses to play in the AHL which is where he belongs. Yeah, he's got a primadonna, entitled attitude, seemingly. He's definitely not NHL ready. He's been rushed and it shows on the stats. This is why he's only worth a Lockwood and a 7th. NYR fans have been saying that their team sucks ass with developing players. Kravtsov is one of these examples. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 3 hours ago, johngould21 said: So far how are these college kids working out? Lockwood is the latest that hasn't caught on to a full time gig in the bigs. I think that there was a large swing in favour of the NCAA players that might've overshot their actual value. NCAA players weren't getting their due in the early 2000s... but now it's even better respected then juniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Yeah, he's got a primadonna, entitled attitude, seemingly. He's definitely not NHL ready. He's been rushed and it shows on the stats. This is why he's only worth a Lockwood and a 7th. NYR fans have been saying that their team sucks ass with developing players. Kravtsov is one of these examples. @FlyLow_ Certainly don't like it, but let's hope that Vitali the kid, matured as he just turned 23 now. I wasn't even doing my own laundry at 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Big gamble but he's Boeser-lite, a soft skinny perimeter player who has some skill but almost no grit or drive. I think the fans are going to hate him when they watch him float out there but I'm all for giving him a second chance. He's the opposite of a Tocchet player so will be interesting to see what Rick does - usually he'd scratch a guy like him but surely there'll be management pressure to play him in our top 6. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 6 hours ago, FlyLow_ said: Don't love it. We have enough soft wingers and shit attitudes on the team. This kid flat out refuses to play in the AHL which is where he belongs. Yeah, he is talented but he lacks the work ethic and attitude to be an effective Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 7 hours ago, Dazzle said: Yeah, he's got a primadonna, entitled attitude, seemingly. He's definitely not NHL ready. He's been rushed and it shows on the stats. This is why he's only worth a Lockwood and a 7th. NYR fans have been saying that their team sucks ass with developing players. Kravtsov is one of these examples. So his experiance is similar to Dahlen. Utica or AHL with Cull as coach was also bad at developing. 2 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Big gamble but he's Boeser-lite, a soft skinny perimeter player who has some skill but almost no grit or drive. I think the fans are going to hate him when they watch him float out there but I'm all for giving him a second chance. He's the opposite of a Tocchet player so will be interesting to see what Rick does - usually he'd scratch a guy like him but surely there'll be management pressure to play him in our top 6. Think of it as top 9 going forward. To squeese in all our top 6 forwards is impossible. We must have a top 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Curmudgeon Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 CDC Guide to Reacting to a Trade 1. Thank God we made a trade. 2. Who did we get? 3. Is that all? 4. We were idiots to give up a draft pick? 5. That draft pick will turn out to be a journeyman fourth liner who would look good in a Canucks jersey. 6. The new guy has great scouting reports. 7 Fans of his former team think he's a bust. 8. Yeah, he'll probably fail and again it will show how stupid Benning was. Lather, rinse, repeat. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 44 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: At some point in this 15 second video I at least expected to see him putting it on or something. Guess that's too much to ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 19 hours ago, Provost said: It refers to his draft position. It is a correct usage of the word. the background or history of a person or thing, especially as conferringdistinction or quality. "the scheme has a long pedigree" where did you find that Scheme quote Webster mentions ancestry or bloodline in all of their examples https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=703778336807195 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 12 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Big gamble but he's Boeser-lite, a soft skinny perimeter player who has some skill but almost no grit or drive. I think the fans are going to hate him when they watch him float out there but I'm all for giving him a second chance. He's the opposite of a Tocchet player so will be interesting to see what Rick does - usually he'd scratch a guy like him but surely there'll be management pressure to play him in our top 6. That's a pretty grim outlook. Kravtsov might do well under Tocchet and playing with the right players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 3 hours ago, lmm said: where did you find that Scheme quote Webster mentions ancestry or bloodline in all of their examples https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=703778336807195 Literally from the first result on a Google search that pulls from Oxford dictionary.... plus everywhere else. Even Webster has it as one of the definitions of the word. If you keep running into situations where you are calling several people out for being wrong, maybe do more than the briefest cursory look and consider that you may be the one who is actually wrong? 1 : a register recording a line of ancestors The pedigree traces the family back to the 18th century. 2a: an ancestral line : LINEAGE That horse has an impressive pedigree. b : the origin and the history of something Democracy's pedigree stretches back to ancient Greece. broadly : BACKGROUND, HISTORY 3a : a distinguished ancestry actions spoke louder than pedigrees in the trenches—Dixon Wecter b : the recorded purity of breed of an individual or strain vouch for a horse's pedigree https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedigree?utm_campaign=sd&utm_medium=serp&utm_source=jsonldhttps://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/pedigree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Contrary to the stereotype, I think our Russian players are some of the hardest working on the team. Given the language and cultural affinity with such players, I can't help but think this was a perfect reclamation project to take on. I liked Lockwood, but we needed more from him than just flying around with some hits. All players in your lineup need to have reasonably high skill, so it looks like a low risk high reward gamble to me. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Provost said: Literally from the first result on a Google search that pulls from Oxford dictionary.... plus everywhere else. Even Webster has it as one of the definitions of the word. If you keep running into situations where you are calling several people out for being wrong, maybe do more than the briefest cursory look and consider that you may be the one who is actually wrong? 1 : a register recording a line of ancestors The pedigree traces the family back to the 18th century. 2a: an ancestral line : LINEAGE That horse has an impressive pedigree. b : the origin and the history of something Democracy's pedigree stretches back to ancient Greece. broadly : BACKGROUND, HISTORY 3a : a distinguished ancestry actions spoke louder than pedigrees in the trenches—Dixon Wecter b : the recorded purity of breed of an individual or strain vouch for a horse's pedigree https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedigree?utm_campaign=sd&utm_medium=serp&utm_source=jsonldhttps://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/pedigree and how does any of that relate to Krvatsov? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, lmm said: and how does any of that relate to Krvatsov? His background and history as a former high first round pick.... Literally a remarkably common usage when people talk about high draft picks and how they are of a higher breed of player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 On 2/25/2023 at 2:47 PM, lmm said: I've seen 3 posters say pedigree https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedigree#:~:text=%3A a table or list showing,breed recorded by a pedigree I don't see that that is the appropriate use of the word Do Jake and Oli have pedigree as well? Yup. Jake and OJ has good draft pedigree. That’s why they kept getting chances even though they really didn’t deserve them. Kravtsov has similar draft pedigree. He will get chances because of it. Usually the high draft picks have some kind of skill set that predicts they will have NHL success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, Provost said: His background and history as a former high first round pick.... Literally a remarkably common usage when people talk about high draft picks and how they are of a higher breed of player. so common in fact that 3 of you used the same term If i were talking about pedigree, I would be talking about Mark Howe or Brett Hull Brett Hull had Pedigree even though he was a 5th round pick So you are saying that Jake V has pedigree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, Alflives said: Yup. Jake and OJ has good draft pedigree. That’s why they kept getting chances even though they really didn’t deserve them. Kravtsov has similar draft pedigree. He will get chances because of it. Usually the high draft picks have some kind of skill set that predicts they will have NHL success. can't tell if your drunk or just pulling my chain So, who signs Jake next based on his pedigree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 22 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: @FlyLow_ Certainly don't like it, but let's hope that Vitali the kid, matured as he just turned 23 now. I wasn't even doing my own laundry at 19. I still don't do laundry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, lmm said: can't tell if your drunk or just pulling my chain So, who signs Jake next based on his pedigree How many chances did Jake get (like a lot of high picks) that he didn’t deserve? Look at the guy. The Oilers even gave him a PTO this September. I’ll assume the “are you drunk” question is rhetorical. Edited February 27, 2023 by Alflives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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