BC_Hawk Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, N7Nucks said: Myers 2.5mil retained for Kerfoot straight up. Gives us 3mil this offseason to use as we see fit. We don't need or want Kerfoot. But we also don't want to give up assets to move Myers. So we can take him to move out Myers. If we can squeeze a middling pick too, bonus. Edit: Although it sounds like they want cap. Not equal cap in as cap out. Do they even have picks left anymore for us to take a cap dump? No thanks. Just ride out Myers contract versus retaining anything more than 1m. 3m does nothing for our hole a RD in 2024 nor does dealing Myers. The ONLY way I'd retain that much is if we were getting a high pick back or a legit prospect back with Kerfoot just a cap dump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, myre said: Sure, in this case I'm happy. Good point. Ya, you guys are probably right. I apologize for feeling sick to my stomach when I seen the thread. Oh buddy I feel ya. I've been educating leaf fans about the types of picks they would need to give up to dump holl and kerfoot while bringing in someone who is useful for that 5.5m instead for ever it seems! They still to this day think it's going to be hoglander and schenn for those two 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, myre said: Sure, in this case I'm happy. Good point. Ya, you guys are probably right. I apologize for feeling sick to my stomach when I seen the thread. You’re forgiven for feeling sick to your stomach, just don’t let it happen again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, BC_Hawk said: No thanks. Just ride out Myers contract versus retaining anything more than 1m. 3m does nothing for our hole a RD in 2024 nor does dealing Myers. The ONLY way I'd retain that much is if we were getting a high pick back or a legit prospect back with Kerfoot just a cap dump. It's not about fixing the D with that cap. That cap gives us room to take some other expiring scrub for draft picks. Retaining on 1 full year is nothing given we suck. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: Oh buddy I feel ya. I've been educating leaf fans about the types of picks they would need to give up to dump holl and kerfoot while bringing in someone who is useful for that 5.5m instead for ever it seems! They still to this day think it's going to be hoglander and schenn for those two Leafs fans are even worse than us when it comes to thinking their roster scraps are worth their weight in gold to other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, McBackup said: Leafs fans are even worse than us when it comes to thinking their roster scraps are worth their weight in gold to other teams. I was trying to explain that their “prized” prospect knies was a ride along with cooley and snuggerud and my god they think the complete opposite… Greta is the worst on Twitter by far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: It's not about fixing the D with that cap. That cap gives us room to take some other expiring scrub for draft picks. Retaining on 1 full year is nothing given we suck. I kind of want to improve the team in 2024 & 2025 versus using a ton of cap on retained salary to get 2nd and 3rd round picks. Use all our cap in 2023 to trade for expiring scrubs.....sure. But retain cap in 2024 and beyond to do so is just ridiculous. I'm all about a rebuild, but let's be perfectly honest here; IF this team is still in trade assets for mid/late round picks and scrubs mode, Petterson, Kuz, Demko, and any of our other good players will simply be gone and not resign. This will set the rebuild back another 3-4 years. Our best option; cross our finger our bottom 6 finish becomes a top 3 pick. Draft a difference maker, then draft prospects with our later picks. Then, use FA and trades to fill voids on the team WITHOUT mortgaging future high draft picks nor blowing/wasting cap space. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boknows08 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Schenn for Kerfoot and Minton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Bell said: We don't need any more smurfs. Yes we do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, BC_Hawk said: I kind of want to improve the team in 2024 & 2025 versus using a ton of cap on retained salary to get 2nd and 3rd round picks. Use all our cap in 2023 to trade for expiring scrubs.....sure. But retain cap in 2024 and beyond to do so is just ridiculous. I'm all about a rebuild, but let's be perfectly honest here; IF this team is still in trade assets for mid/late round picks and scrubs mode, Petterson, Kuz, Demko, and any of our other good players will simply be gone and not resign. This will set the rebuild back another 3-4 years. Our best option; cross our finger our bottom 6 finish becomes a top 3 pick. Draft a difference maker, then draft prospects with our later picks. Then, use FA and trades to fill voids on the team WITHOUT mortgaging future high draft picks nor blowing/wasting cap space. This doomsday scenario fails when you factor in Kuzmenko literally could have left this summer and didn't. I don't think those players will just leave if we at least have direction. Especially given we have Petey's RFA rights, he may hold out. Who knows. Demko we kind of want gone anyway. He has extensive injury history. And again, Kuzmenko had the chance to leave, but didn't. Besides, moving Myers and using that 3mil cap for another cap dump won't make us much worse. Moving Myers is almost addition by subtraction. Adding cap flexibility is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad alice french Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 No thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vanisleryan Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2023 Anyone saying we retain our n Myers is crazy, we can easily move him to Chicago for futures after his bonus is paid. They will definitely want a tank commander with a 6 M cap hit to get to the floor with only 1 M in real money to be paid. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: This doomsday scenario fails when you factor in Kuzmenko literally could have left this summer and didn't. I don't think those players will just leave if we at least have direction. Especially given we have Petey's RFA rights, he may hold out. Who knows. Demko we kind of want gone anyway. He has extensive injury history. And again, Kuzmenko had the chance to leave, but didn't. Besides, moving Myers and using that 3mil cap for another cap dump won't make us much worse. Moving Myers is almost addition by subtraction. Adding cap flexibility is a bonus. It is not dooms day, it is reality. Kuzmenko resigned bc he is comfortable in Van right now. That he only took a 2 year "bridge" type deal shows he is also interested in the direction the team goes. Same with Petterson; he is only under team control for 3 more years (2 contract + RFA). Wanting Demko gone is very short sighted. He single handly propped up a very poor defensive team for 2 years. Unfortunately he started rough this year, then got hurt. My OPINION; he was never really healed from offseason hip surgery and fell into the FO's direction of "unfinished business". He should be LTIRd and let to rehab/heal until training camp. Myers is overpaid & over played plain and simple. The great thing; he is only under contract for one more year and WILL have value next TDL. Jettisoning him now with 3m retained to open up 3m in cap to retain more plus a ~3rd pick is just asinine. Why not wait until next spring and trade him for a 2nd with retention at the TDL? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleysteamersmyl Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, nuckin_futz said: Kerfoot, Garland and sign free agent, 5'9, Tyler Ennis. This line will be potent in the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, stanleysteamersmyl said: Kerfoot, Garland and sign free agent, 5'9, Tyler Ennis. This line will be potent in the playoffs. Only if we can nickname the line "Midget Magic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, stanleysteamersmyl said: Kerfoot, Garland and sign free agent, 5'9, Tyler Ennis. This line will be potent in the playoffs. Giraffes May balance them out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: So... uh... is it possible for one to receive... uh... "pharmaceutical benefits" of second-hand smoke from combusted psychoactive vegetation introduced in... uh... that... uh... "manner"? Asking for a friend, y'know. You’ll have to ask Seravelli. Frank is a professional ass smoker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 There's smoke in Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, BC_Hawk said: No thanks. Just ride out Myers contract versus retaining anything more than 1m. 3m does nothing for our hole a RD in 2024 nor does dealing Myers. The ONLY way I'd retain that much is if we were getting a high pick back or a legit prospect back with Kerfoot just a cap dump. this time next year, someone will give up something decent for Myers 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Odd. said: Makes no sense to take on a UFA unless there’s a bigger piece involved. Kerfoot only has $185k in actual cash left. Toronto have no 2nds and majority of their top picks until 2027. does he play right defense? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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