combover Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 19 minutes ago, LegionOfDoom said: LOL nah rather just continue to point out how horrible and sad your takes are to everyone Fair enough. I can always use another fan. hey how did defending Bennings trades work out for ya. Hahah 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, stawns said: They won't be able to trade Myers without a high pick or good prospect. They really have no choice but to hang on to him until next tdl. I see Hoglander going with Myers. I absolutely despise this thought but that's the significant piece that we will have to part with. Running his contract out is no longer an option since we are already over the cap even before the off-season hit. I've never seen this before. 1 minute ago, stawns said: Boeser will either need cap retention, cap coming back or a major sweetener. It will have to be cap retention. But my guess is Garland is easier to trade and Boeser will stay. If Boeser's a$$ is not on fire this summer after losing his role to Kuzmenko and being demoted to the 3rd line, then his career is essentially over after his current deal. He might get a team offering a 1 year deal but that will be his last chance. 1 minute ago, stawns said: There's nothing to do with OEL. He has a NMC, but they won't be able to deal him anyway and buying him out is the idea worse than doing nothing today. They still need to figure out what to do. Is he coming back on the team? If the answer is no, then what are the ways to deal with his contract? Trade is not viable without, I'd say our own 1st rounder going away, so it's a big fat no. Buyout is short-sighted. If Allvin buys him out, he's not interested in the long term outlook of the team and his own job is at risk. LTIR may be an option depending on his injury and how OEL himself feels about his physical abilities. If he is back because there's no way to deal with his contract, then what are the options to create cap space to accommodate him while upgrading the team? I don't think they have answers to these questions but they better hurry because the time bomb is ticking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 9 minutes ago, stanleysteamersmyl said: Time for a laugh. Bruce, There he is.... Omg that second clip is one of the greatest things I’ve ever watched! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, DeNiro said: But what if the “thing” was just bringing us all together to spend time with each other. What if that’s the gift he was giving us all along! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, stawns said: But they added 5m+ to the cap. They are massively over Yes but wait and see if they sort it out... As I said, it was the same with Benning... And he always came out under the cap. I may be wrong, but if they can't manage to stay under the cap, with I don't know how many geniuses working in the front office, then they should be sacked..... and thus, I think they have a few things up their sleeves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 7 minutes ago, The Lock said: Clearly they didn't since they didn't. No offense, but I'm trusting someone who's job it is to come up with such plans more than I am a school teacher. Will it mean they do a good job or not? We'll see, but as far as I'm concerned, your opinion and a lot of other opinions are just noise at this point. Do I have my own concerns? Sure, but I'm willing to see what happens. Yeah, what do teachers know about planning? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe Knows Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 6 minutes ago, combover said: We traded horvat and a 2nd for Two 2nds (AR Fh) and a very late first ab add a 3rd and 4th for shenn lazar we didn’t add cap space we didn’t weaponize anything except FA PA stupidity. this was a major surgical failure. Malpractice. At this point We look to be even worse next season. F is the grade for this TDL just like most of the ones going back 10 years. yup I’m negative 40 years of following with the last 10 years being pure stupidity Has that effect. Long summers are the only thing this team is planning. Agree with much except I do think we'll be better next year...just not better enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 6 minutes ago, combover said: We traded horvat and a 2nd for Two 2nds (AR Fh) and a very late first ab add a 3rd and 4th for shenn lazar we didn’t add cap space we didn’t weaponize anything except FA PA stupidity. this was a major surgical failure. Malpractice. At this point We look to be even worse next season. F is the grade for this TDL just like most of the ones going back 10 years. yup I’m negative 40 years of following with the last 10 years being pure stupidity Has that effect. Long summers are the only thing this team is planning. When I first started to follow hockey, it felt like every team was sort of dumb. So Canucks didn't stick out even when they didn't make smart decisions. Since the introduction of cap and over time, many teams have gotten smarter while the Canucks have stayed the same old way. So the Canucks way looks distinctively dumb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Just now, stawns said: Yeah, what do teachers know about planning? Clearly enough to think they know how the rest of the world outside of academia runs. Actually, this quite makes sense given what I found in university compared to what I was actually doing afterwards. There was a bit of a... disconnect unfortunately. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: His adult children were trying to continue to receive monthly allowances, part of that stipulation was their schooling to which the adult children were trying to get into different schools than discussed and agreed upon between the parents and children. Context is everything. Know idea what his personal circumstances are or how they got to what is reported or rumored in the public eye. I have my own personal stuff to worry about and his personal life is not my business. Couldn't be any happier seeing him putting up all the money needed to run the Canucks though, there have been years where the future of the club in this city was in jeopardy. I am not taking the stability and already the most success by this franchise for granted while being owned by Aquilini. Highest winning percentage of any Canucks owner in the .560's, most banners and trophies under his ownership. Attacking someone in that personal manner has no place on here or anywhere for that manner. Lowest of low. Fair enough to critique the team priorities and direction. As you so rightly laid out this ownership has never scrimped in their support of the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryElf Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 23 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: When you realize @AngryElf has just been trolling us for the last 3 days. You got me, I'm actually Jim Rutherford (call me Jimmy). I knew we weren't doing $hit so I wanted to mess with the fanbase. Until next year! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, AngryElf said: You got me, I'm actually Jim Rutherford (call me Jimmy). I knew we weren't doing $hit so I wanted to mess with the fanbase. Until next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 29 minutes ago, CanuckRookieFan said: Trust me, for wealth and money we will do and put up with anything. What world are you living in? Have you seen what women do for a bit of cash on only fans.com or how big Netflix reality TV is because everyone wants that lam life. Everyone is willing to live through drama and chaos as long as they are rich. You must not be of age to understand how key being wealthy is in today's image hungry world. Say I, not we. I don't agree with this statement in the slightest. No, I don't know what woman do on Netflix for cash, that doesn't sound interesting to me at all. Wealth would mean absolutely nothing if my family didn't love me and people didn't respect me. Quite frankly, this post was depressing to read that some people do think like this. You have a very different outlook on life then me. To teach their own, I presume. Edited March 3 by MeanSeanBean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: His adult children were trying to continue to receive monthly allowances, part of that stipulation was their schooling to which the adult children were trying to get into different schools than discussed and agreed upon between the parents and children. Context is everything. Know idea what his personal circumstances are or how they got to what is reported or rumored in the public eye. I have my own personal stuff to worry about and his personal life is not my business. Couldn't be any happier seeing him putting up all the money needed to run the Canucks though, there have been years where the future of the club in this city was in jeopardy. I am not taking the stability and already the most success by this franchise for granted while being owned by Aquilini. Highest winning percentage of any Canucks owner in the .560's, most banners and trophies under his ownership. You have your own personal stuff to worry about, but then proceed to jump into a conversation defending him. I don't understand that logic in the slightest. Edited March 3 by MeanSeanBean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) I think we moved in the wrong direction competently. The wrong direction is a set feature of the team defined by ownership so at least the crew was refreshingly competent compared to the last guy. We are fighting hard to become a middle of the road team that hopes Demko gets a hot run in him before his hips get out. Things I liked: the Bo trade was good value. Mid first rounder with potential to be better, good prospect decent young winger with good speed. Kravtsov deal. Good gamble, lots there to like cost very little. Like that this team isn’t married to their mistakes. Got a return for Stillman and a decent one. Lazar wasn’t working out and moved on. ‘Benning left a team that was slow, not physical, not very skilled and was small to boot. We have brought in players for the most part who can really skate and/or have good size and skill. Adding a quality right D, young since our intent is to be able to scrape into the playoffs, not win there. This was a good step for moving towards mediocre. Things I didn’t like We backed ourselves into a corner and we’re forced to make the Bo trade. We knew this was not going to be a rebuild, just a retool of the retool done by a tool. We got a first rounder that had the potential to be at worst a mid rounder and possibly a lottery pick next year and traded it along with another second without even knowing what we had. We keep acting like we are a championship team when we aren’t even a half decent team. ‘We are the 6th worst team in the NHL, are over the cap for next season and have the highest salary commitment next year of any team in the NHL. we have only managed to shed cap from premium positions of C and D and have added soooooo much cap to the wing. Other GMs smell desperation and aren’t going to line up to help us out. Myers doesn’t automatically go to Arizona for pics just because of the structure of his contract, that will still cost us. We have heard that the best deals are often the ones you don’t make. Well, our worst failures have been the deals we didn’t make for JTM. Not trading him for the rumoured return from NYR last year was a massive mistake. If it is true that Pitts offered 2 first rounders with no retention then we made an even bigger mistake. The idea that we needed a centre back now in this deal is just so incredibly stupid and short sighted. In the off-season having cap space and 2 first rounders to work with this could have been addressed with more potential options AND helped us in the Bedard bowl. Edited March 3 by DrJockitch 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I bet the players are feeling deflated. They know their team isn’t good enough and see that management can’t fix it. Another few months of waiting for the next shoe to drop. At the very least we don’t accidentally screw up the tank by the cast off cap dumps we would have taken back in trades playing better than our talented guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myre Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 13 minutes ago, DeNiro said: But what if the “thing” was just bringing us all together to spend time with each other. What if that’s the gift he was giving us all along! I don't know man I would still prefer a "thing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CroSen Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Well, the highlight over the last few days was the OP keeping this thread title fun and current. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 When does Miller's NMC come into effect? July 1st? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 7 minutes ago, Moe Knows said: Agree with much except I do think we'll be better next year...just not better enough Curious why you think we’ll be better next year? far as I can tell we had a massive downgraded (horvat) and the stepped sideways hronek. They’ll need to buyout or pay to trade players/cap in the summer which will most likely hurt the on ice product even further. oh well as the Canucks slogans go - it is what it is And there’s always next year . lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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