Fred65 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Alflives said: Tocchet said in his post game presser (last night) that Hronek is here and working out every day. Said he’s still week to week. Hronek will carry OEL on our second pairing. We will sign Livingston to play with Hughes. Myers on the bottom pair with Wolanen. That’s a very good group. Elite puck movers in our top two pairs and Wolanen is pretty good too. Myers and OEL can just focus on the defensive parts of the game. I think Brisebois has jumped ahead of Wolanin when he agreed to a new contract. Currently Wolanin is still a UFA at the end of the season, GB is signed for the next 2 years. Frankly on the Defensive side of the game GB is the better option IMO. Edited March 9, 2023 by Fred65 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Man, when is Hronek gonna play?? Would be nice to finally see him and Hughes anchoring the blue line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Man, when is Hronek gonna play?? Would be nice to finally see him and Hughes anchoring the blue line. Word is somewhere around March 16-18th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 16 hours ago, aliboy said: Word is somewhere around March 16-18th. Hronek is like a shiny new car sitting in the driveway. You just want to jump in and test drive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Figured I should come here to check on if anything has been heard about his injury status or if there's a plan to check him out here in Vancouver, but also I did this little comparison. As noted below, Hughes is our best D in a lot of categories, but Hronek stacks up near the top in most of those same categories, plus as good or better in some others. On 3/2/2023 at 7:22 PM, elvis15 said: I haven't been keeping up with all the pages, and I know the argument about where we are, why trade picks, etc, etc, etc. I wanted to look more at how to quantify Hronek and where he fits in our D. If someone wanted to do this with advanced stats, or with other D as comparison, feel free. It's just a visual. Lots of green in those top two lines, and Hronek compares pretty favourably to Hughes. Strong shooting %, does get involved physically, and of course his offence. Of course, the Chaos Giraffe (I don't hate him that much) is not the best of the bunch. Just to sum it up a little better, I graphed it out (not weighted, but good enough). Hronek actually comes out a little ahead of Hughes adding up across multiple categories. Hughes is better at what he does of course, but just showing that Hronek is no slouch. But if you're dead set on being angry about the draft picks, the overall price, or whatever, then it is what it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, elvis15 said: Figured I should come here to check on if anything has been heard about his injury status or if there's a plan to check him out here in Vancouver, but also I did this little comparison. As noted below, Hughes is our best D in a lot of categories, but Hronek stacks up near the top in most of those same categories, plus as good or better in some others. Yup. Hughes will anchor our first pairing (he’s been amazing with pretty much AHL level partners). Hronek will do the same for our second pairing. One of those two super D men will almost always be on the ice, and in the most critical parts of a games they will likely be out together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 8:10 PM, aliboy said: My understanding is around the 16th of March. If you scroll down and find him here it says March 18th. https://puckpedia.com/injuries Is it me or does the timeline keep changing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Is it me or does the timeline keep changing? Not sure, we play games on the 16th, 18th and 19th, I expect to see him in there somewhere, unless we get an official update. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 9:00 AM, 73 Percent said: You represent everything I hate in a Leafs fan. Omf that made me spit up coffee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) On 3/9/2023 at 9:21 AM, Alflives said: Tocchet said in his post game presser (last night) that Hronek is here and working out every day. Said he’s still week to week. Hronek will carry OEL on our second pairing. We will sign Livingston to play with Hughes. Myers on the bottom pair with Wolanen. That’s a very good group. Elite puck movers in our top two pairs and Wolanen is pretty good too. Myers and OEL can just focus on the defensive parts of the game. Lots of conjecture Alf but that is what CDC is all about; other than Myers I like your D man setup. Pretty sure Myers will be traded or bought out in the off season to free up cap space. If they are so lucky to sign Livingstone; then I could eventually see a D lineup like this: Hughes - Hronek OEL - Bear Livingstone- Dermott Brisebois/ Wolanen - Juulsen All conjecture on my part as well but I think I could live with that till they can move on from OEL Edited March 11, 2023 by Kootenay Gold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I think we should at least see how Hronek would do with Hughes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 49 minutes ago, Nave said: I think we should at least see how Hronek would do with Hughes. Hronek with Hughes is instantly one of the best D pairings in the league. Hughes with Juulson, Bear, and other much lesser D than Hronek is fantastic. Hughes is an amazing player. We want Tanev Back! Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 5:59 AM, Boudrias said: Hronek is like a shiny new car sitting in the driveway. You just want to jump in and test drive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Kootenay Gold said: Lots of conjecture Alf but that is what CDC is all about; other than Myers I like your D man setup. Pretty sure Myers will be traded or bought out in the off season to free up cap space. If they are so lucky to sign Livingstone; then I could eventually see a D lineup like this: Hughes - Hronek OEL - Bear Livingstone- Dermott Brisebois/ Wolanen - Juulsen All conjecture on my part as well but I think I could live with that till they can move on from OEL Absolutely Hronek becomes Q's partner. If they are able to sign Livingston, they may not need Bear. Hughes - hRonny OEL - Livingston Brisebois - Bear Wonlanen - Juulsen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Nave said: I think we should at least see how Hronek would do with Hughes. I strongly suspect they'll try this out. He's the #2 RHD Hughes has needed for a long time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeQuinnAndEggs Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 What's Hronek's injury status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 20 hours ago, Kootenay Gold said: Lots of conjecture Alf but that is what CDC is all about; other than Myers I like your D man setup. Pretty sure Myers will be traded or bought out in the off season to free up cap space. If they are so lucky to sign Livingstone; then I could eventually see a D lineup like this: Hughes - Hronek OEL - Bear Livingstone- Dermott Brisebois/ Wolanen - Juulsen All conjecture on my part as well but I think I could live with that till they can move on from OEL Way better to have Hronek and Hughes apart.. Both are so talented and Vancouver will have 2 very good parings.. The 3rd pairing should handle 15 mins per game.... 1. Hronek -- _____ Maybe Graves 6'5 -225lbs LD 2. Hughes - _____ Maybe Livingstone 6'3 RD -- Hope Allvin can sign this top college player after his college playoffs in March sometime.. 3. OEL. _____ Bear 25 RD - Johansson RD -23 --Juulsen 25 RD ---- LD-- Burroughs - Brisebois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 18 hours ago, higgyfan said: Absolutely Hronek becomes Q's partner. If they are able to sign Livingston, they may not need Bear. Hughes - hRonny OEL - Livingston Brisebois - Bear Wonlanen - Juulsen I like your lineup better. I don’t see Bear as a top 4 d man on a contending team. He has the ability to move up if needed. Camp could reveal some d-side surprises in the fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, wildcam said: Way better to have Hronek and Hughes apart.. Both are so talented and Vancouver will have 2 very good parings.. The 3rd pairing should handle 15 mins per game.... 1. Hronek -- _____ Maybe Graves 6'5 -225lbs LD 2. Hughes - _____ Maybe Livingstone 6'3 RD -- Hope Allvin can sign this top college player after his college playoffs in March sometime.. 3. OEL. _____ Bear 25 RD - Johansson RD -23 --Juulsen 25 RD ---- LD-- Burroughs - Brisebois That may well happen but I do think that RT will try them out together first. Without all the other hoped for changes yet to occur; I think them playing together is the most likely scenario for the rest of this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Boudrias said: I like your lineup better. I don’t see Bear as a top 4 d man on a contending team. He has the ability to move up if needed. Camp could reveal some d-side surprises in the fall. I hope they are able to sign Livingstone but not sure if they would start him as a top 4 right away. If he is signed, it may take some time for him to adjust to the speed of the game at the NHL level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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