Popular Post -Vintage Canuck- Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devron Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 Well concussions are always a concern, probably best interest for the Canucks they do a 1 year deal 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 A one year deal is fine, he's settled in well since getting here but I'm still not convinced he's a longer term option anyway. If we can upgrade on him as we overhaul our defense we should. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dm_ranger Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I hope we keep him, but pay him as a 5th D. Cheap for top 4 and well paid for both 2 pair. If we have 2 RD better than him I think we are really solid on the right side, but him moving up due to injuries or sharing the bottom 2 spots on RD would be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Give him one year if the price is right. He's solid as a 5-6 that can play in the top 4 if necessary, but I wouldn't give him the moon just because he's a righty. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Green Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I love the player but the concussion news will shut down any chance of a 3yr deal imo. I'd sign him for 1yr at 2M and hope he continues playing well through injuries. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 Save all our cap space for legit top 4’s and give guys like Brisebois, Wolanin, and Juulsen a shot. Cant be paying 2+ mil for a bottom pair defender. And if we are that money should go to Schenn not Bear. 7 1 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I like Bear, but let him walk. We have guys who can take his minutes at league minimum. Bear isn't worth $2m+ to us. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I would be happy signing Bear for 1 year at his qualifying offer if 2.2M. If we don't bring in another RH defenseman, then give him the full year beside Hughes or OEL to show if he can be a top 4 guy. If he can then awesome, he'll have earned a pay raise. If he can't then it's only 1 year and we can flip him at the deadline with retention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 12 minutes ago, Diamonds said: I would be happy signing Bear for 1 year at his qualifying offer if 2.2M. If we don't bring in another RH defenseman, then give him the full year beside Hughes or OEL to show if he can be a top 4 guy. If he can then awesome, he'll have earned a pay raise. If he can't then it's only 1 year and we can flip him at the deadline with retention. You don't think we can fill Bear's spot with Juulsen, Burroughs, Schenn (maybe), Johansson, etc at league minimum? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Would we be better off putting Bear's money toward a UFA RHD in the Summer? We might be able to find someone more effective than him. I guess the positive aspect of resigning him, especially if it's a short-term deal, is that we can potentially unload him for an asset at the next TDL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Schenn I bring back between $1-1.5 and Bear between $1.5-2. Anything over that for either, and we should be looking elsewhere IMO. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttley Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 First half in particular.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I wonder how much $$$ he is looking for - Bear probably sees himself as a top 4 D and RH’s are in demand. He does have some versatility/ seems to play well in any pairing. Retrievals are good. His PK ability is I think the big question. No doubt Foote/Tocchett’s evaluation of him will determine a lot. Im guessing they hold off until the off season especially if he can get back and play. Probably doubtful tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 18 minutes per game. 14 points 43 games. Best partner for Hughes since Tanev. Do we re-sign him? Absolutely. Do his ice time and point performance scream massive raise? Not really. 1 year @2.8 or 3 years @ 2.5 million per Don’t forget this guy didn’t even make the Hurricane and they essentially gave him to us for free (the 5th rounder was for the cap retention). He will want to stay in Van Edited March 7 by canucklehead44 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 9 minutes ago, Jester13 said: You don't think we can fill Bear's spot with Juulsen, Burroughs, Schenn (maybe), Johansson, etc at league minimum? If he ends up being only a bottom pair guy, sure. But so far Bear is ahead of them and looks to have more potential. Johansson is obviously a wildcard but I'm not getting my hopes up too high before he plays a game in North America. Bear has proven to be a #5 that can play top 4 spot duty, the question is whether he can up his game to be a consistent #4. Burroughs has shown to be a competent 6/7 guy but not more than that. Juulsen might still have more upside to him, but he's also at best a 6/7 guy right now. Schenn is a great leader and has chemistry with Hughes, but he's only a 5/6 guy which forces other defensemen to double-shift with Hughes and he is going to start slowing down with age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High and Inside Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 34 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Save all our cap space for legit top 4’s and give guys like Brisebois, Wolanin, and Juulsen a shot. Cant be paying 2+ mil for a bottom pair defender. And if we are that money should go to Schenn not Bear. Juulsen has been awful. Brisebois can help out as as a 7th guy though even he had a brutal giveaway last night. I would definitely be happy to give Wolanin a shot as he seems like a pretty sound player a guy you just don't notice good or bad but can eat some minutes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said: 18 minutes per game. 14 points 43 games. Best partner for Hughes since Tanev. Do we re-sign him? Absolutely. Do his ice time and point performance scream massive raise? Not really. 1 year @2.8 or 3 years @ 2.5 million per Don’t forget this guy didn’t even make the Hurricane and they essentially gave him to us for free (the 5th rounder was for the cap retention). He will want to stay in Van That’s not saying much since Hughes has had some pretty average D partners since Tanev. The goal remains to find a top pair shutdown partner with some size and snarl. Bear isn’t that. The bar needs to be set higher. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Just now, High and Inside said: Juulsen has been awful. Brisebois can help out as as a 7th guy though even he had a brutal giveaway last night. I would definitely be happy to give Wolanin a shot as he seems like a pretty sound player a guy you just don't notice good or bad but can eat some minutes. Wasn’t Juulsen playing with Hughes? That obviously won’t be his role. Play him less minutes on the bottom pair with a solid stay at home vet and see what he can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1x1.3 - He's not a top pair guy with Hughes. Hronek owns the 2nd pair. Is bear a 3rd pair with those two above him? Meh he's a good insurance policy for when we need a more mobile defender but I'm sure he wants more opportunities than that. I'm not solid on anything more than a show me deal in a structured environment with a full off season and training camp. Good kid and love his character though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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