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25 minutes ago, RU SERIOUS said:

That's incredible!!! I usually was able to sell extra seats too over the last 4-5 years, as long as I sold them at 40-75% of their cost - except for rare games against the high demand teams like T.O.. Boston, et which I usually attended anyways but about every 6th to 7th game I'd end up stuck with a pair - no matter how much I lowered the price, especially mid week games against "nobody" teams and especially since the Canucks started "dumping" tickets at half price to students and last minute buyers and also giving hundreds away to charities and disadvantaged folks to keep the arena from looking too empty.   My fellow STH neighbors sitting next to me on both sides also complained they were having the same problem, so you are extremely blessed with good fortune to be able to unload unwanted tickets without losing lots of money.  That is for sure!

 

It certainly is a far cry now from ten years ago when you could almost guarantee a good profit from any tickets you sold and another reason why I got rid of season tickets as it was a constant hassle worrying about selling tickets, wasting time adjusting prices and losing money endlessly.     Just look at the crowd on TV at any Canucks game and you'll see hundreds of empty seats just on the one side of the lower bowl visible on your screen and then imagine what it's like on the other side in the Club section (which is always worse) and especially the upper bowl.

Very good points! Thank you! I'd like to attend all my games (ideally) and the points you just mentioned about losing money plus wasting time adjusting seems like a lot. I don't think full stm is for me at this time. 

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2 hours ago, Rypper_37 said:

Anything for half or quarter posted yet? 

Usually the upper bowls are a fixed percentage of the lower bowl.  So if a pair of Club seats are $25,200.00 for the season, then take 5% of that and that is usually the starting point for UB4 Defensive Rows 9-15 so about $1250/Pr for Pkg's A-B-C for a quarter season.  From there it's the same percentage increase per step.   It's been that way for 25 years +/- a percent or two but I've heard that Aqua-Lini is going to Gouge STH's this year and use inflation as an excuse to raise prices much higher than usual in the past.   

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17 hours ago, Rypper_37 said:

I've only ever seen the first kind of gift cards (with players on them). Has anyone ever seen the second one before? I haven't. 

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2nd one is the new gift card you can buy at guest services if you only have cash 

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33 minutes ago, WalkWithElias said:

2nd one is the new gift card you can buy at guest services if you only have cash 

I see! Thank you! I wasn't sure as I've never seen it before tbh. 

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On 4/6/2023 at 4:39 PM, SerenityNow said:

Actually my seats are pretty good.  Upper bowl center.  I've never been in the end zone.  All the people in the seats around me are regular patrons.

 

 

Do you think you'll be renewing this year? I will, but I'm a rookie member haha. 

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10 hours ago, Rypper_37 said:

Do you think you'll be renewing this year? I will, but I'm a rookie member haha. 

LOL, glad you asked.  I was just coming on here to announce the big decision!  Today is the deadline.  Well, to my surprise, we ended up deciding to renew "one more year" (for the second year in a row).  We had both agreed to cancel, but two main things changed our minds:  I redid all my math and discovered I had made an error - it turns out we did not lose money this season, for the first time in many years.  I was sick of losing money every year, but that did not happen this year.  We basically broke even.

Secondly, it was the rant posted by a member some days ago, going on about how regular patrons will never get Upper Bowl Center seats no matter how much seniority they have.  That made me think about how good our seats actually are and if we were to give them up and later decide to get season tickets again, we may never get good seats again.  We may then be stuck in the end zone sections forever, just like that member was describing.  That made me way more reluctant to give up my seats yet.  What if the team ever got good again?  Maybe my interest will be rekindled and then I would be missing out.

 

On the other hand, there is a much higher possibility I will regret renewing and you will have to put up with me b1tching and moaning again next season!!!

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1 hour ago, SerenityNow said:

LOL, glad you asked.  I was just coming on here to announce the big decision!  Today is the deadline.  Well, to my surprise, we ended up deciding to renew "one more year" (for the second year in a row).  We had both agreed to cancel, but two main things changed our minds:  I redid all my math and discovered I had made an error - it turns out we did not lose money this season, for the first time in many years.  I was sick of losing money every year, but that did not happen this year.  We basically broke even.

Secondly, it was the rant posted by a member some days ago, going on about how regular patrons will never get Upper Bowl Center seats no matter how much seniority they have.  That made me think about how good our seats actually are and if we were to give them up and later decide to get season tickets again, we may never get good seats again.  We may then be stuck in the end zone sections forever, just like that member was describing.  That made me way more reluctant to give up my seats yet.  What if the team ever got good again?  Maybe my interest will be rekindled and then I would be missing out.

 

On the other hand, there is a much higher possibility I will regret renewing and you will have to put up with me b1tching and moaning again next season!!!

Awww. Absolutely! You could always go down to a half season, but idk if you can sit in the center if you do? I moved around the arena a lot this season (upgrades to Club 500) or club section. Yes, losing your nice seats would be such a pain and I'm hoping next season will be better. Do you think we'll ever get back to our '11 roster? We were so stacked and every player was valuable. In all of Benning's 8 seasons here, he never could build a solid blue line. 

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18 minutes ago, Rypper_37 said:

Awww. Absolutely! You could always go down to a half season, but idk if you can sit in the center if you do? I moved around the arena a lot this season (upgrades to Club 500) or club section. Yes, losing your nice seats would be such a pain and I'm hoping next season will be better. Do you think we'll ever get back to our '11 roster? We were so stacked and every player was valuable. In all of Benning's 8 seasons here, he never could build a solid blue line. 

Unfortunately I feel like the '11 roster was our best chance to ever win the Cup.  So many things depend on chance and luck.   So much serendipity involved in how Brian Burke ended up with the Sedin twins.  How can anything like that ever be repeated?  Then finding the perfect "triplet" to play with the twins... an undrafted player on a such a cap-friendly contract.  Etc etc.

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1 hour ago, SerenityNow said:

Unfortunately I feel like the '11 roster was our best chance to ever win the Cup.  So many things depend on chance and luck.   So much serendipity involved in how Brian Burke ended up with the Sedin twins.  How can anything like that ever be repeated?  Then finding the perfect "triplet" to play with the twins... an undrafted player on a such a cap-friendly contract.  Etc etc.

I sure do miss Burrows as well haha. Ugh! Chance and luck for sure. That was my all time favourite lineup btw! I miss those days. 

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15 hours ago, ronthecivil said:

Well I think I am done with them forever. Just changed my credit card number so they can't get payment. Going to block their email.

 

How do I delete my account and profile on here?

It doesn't look like they are going to send a reminder, today is that last day to cancel auto-renew.  Just the email from 16 days ago.

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So I am going to after talking to the people I go with, keep on going, but to less games, but here's the problem, and a business mode, that someone should tell Aquilini.

 

It's the Bill Wirtz vs. Rocky Wirtz

 

Bill was a guy who was all about maximizing profit. If the people didn't fill the old stadium in the ghetto, then no way it's going on TV. Sure, make some playoff games for some extra dough, but if someone wanted a big contract, whether earned or not, even if it might lead to more fans in the future, then pass. It was all about money now. 

 

Just like our current guy. Now he might sign players, but he has the cap on his side. And the whole point is to win now because playoff tickets is money now. And all about money now is squeezing every last penny out of the people going. Save money on printing tickets and the hassle with an app? You bet! But is that enough? Nope! Gotta have some ads. Maybe even steal some customer info and sell it to third parties with that app. Who knows? If it's money now, then why not? Super high priced tickets that always go up whether they deserve to or not? You bet! Cheap out on staff to the point that half the time I have to instruct them when to let people into their seats? You bet. Insanely priced concessions and beer? If you can squeeze a few more pennies out, you bet! Cheap out on staff? Years ago I had a very good rep that would call me when the season ticket location event was had. Now? I don't even have one, and good luck trying to get one to call you! It's just "check you email!". Because I don't get enough emails in life as it is, I have to wade through countless spam emails to find the important ones. First in line concerts, free stuff, and official business, sure! But ad after ad after ad after ad is just more trying to nickel and dime me. And I really hate that, as I bet a lot of other do!

 

And both those guys have to lead very shadowy private lives, well, because a lot of people, and for good reason, don't like them.

 

Now consider the Rocky Wirtz model....

 

He immediately put the games on TV. He rebuilt the team, but he spent a lot on developing and scouting to do it right, and when those players earned contracts, he signed them. He built a new arena and brought the best part of the old barn (the organ) with it. He did everything fan friendly! Before long, the team won the Stanley cup, and they had a massive parade and millions of fans ready to buy jerseys, go to games, and hand the guy who actually looked after the fans cash. Safe to say that his model drastically out earned Dad's model.

 

The guy I have been to the most games with was actually at the Hawks game (in Chicago) last night (he is a Toews fan and wore his Canada Toews jersey to the game, winning him lots of fans.) A big beer was $11 and it was high quality local beer to boot. And where was Rocky? In the freaking lower bowl with a few security guys! My buddy even went up to him during an intermission and said "thank for developing my guy for me" which got a laugh out of Rocky. Too bad he didn't tell him to call up Francesco and give him some tips on how to REALLY make money with his NHL franchise.

 

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2 hours ago, BCNeil said:

It doesn't look like they are going to send a reminder, today is that last day to cancel auto-renew.  Just the email from 16 days ago.

I believe our first deposit is being taken today (for those of us on payment plans). 

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2 hours ago, Rypper_37 said:

I believe our first deposit is being taken today (for those of us on payment plans). 

I just - literally a minute ago - read your post and thought "No, they always send an email when a payment is taken and there's been no email."  Lo and behold, the email appeared right at that moment! 

 

They may delay everything else they do, but not when it comes to taking their money!    :lol:

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1 hour ago, SerenityNow said:

I just - literally a minute ago - read your post and thought "No, they always send an email when a payment is taken and there's been no email."  Lo and behold, the email appeared right at that moment! 

 

They may delay everything else they do, but not when it comes to taking their money!    :lol:

Lmao! I did see the email and also remembered it from my invoice on my account. I believe they usually send the payment emails the day before, though. They're probably very busy with all the renewals (and maybe cancellations). 

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