[Signing] Dallas signs Lian Bichsel

[the harry]

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/stars/2023/05/06/dallas-stars-sign-2022-first-round-draft-pick-lian-bichsel-to-entry-level-contract/

[Alflives]

3 hours ago, the harry said:

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/stars/2023/05/06/dallas-stars-sign-2022-first-round-draft-pick-lian-bichsel-to-entry-level-contract/

[hammertime]

 

Unfortunately he won't be at the worlds as he got injured in a tune up game. 

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/stars_2022_first_round_pick_out_six_to_eight_weeks_after_surgery/s1_14825_38781063?

 

Not super looking forward to playing dallas with him in the line up though. 

 

 

[Ghostsof1915]

Sigh. 18th overall, 6'6", LHD.

 

What the hell is wrong with our scouts/management?

[hammertime]

3 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Sigh. 18th overall, 6'6", LHD.

 

What the hell is wrong with our scouts/management?

Just different priorities.

 

Alvin feels he can get monster defensive D and 2 way C's on the market doesn't want to draft them with a 1st. He feels undersized scoring wingers are harder to come by. 

[King Heffy]

Really wanted him last year.  Dallas seems to keep drafting guys I wanted who were available with the Canucks' pick.  Stankoven and Bichsel in back-to-back years hurts.

[flickyoursedin]

55 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Sigh. 18th overall, 6'6", LHD.

 

What the hell is wrong with our scouts/management?

Here’s the kicker even though he’s a monster LHD he plays on the right side! Can’t wait to see which small winger we pick this year in the draft.

[coryberg]

3 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Sigh. 18th overall, 6'6", LHD.

 

What the hell is wrong with our scouts/management?

Lekkerimäki was the BPA by a country mile.

 

MacKenzie had JL at 8 and LB at 35.

[eeeeergh]

2 hours ago, coryberg said:

Lekkerimäki was the BPA by a country mile.

 

MacKenzie had JL at 8 and LB at 35.

Yeah I wouldn’t be crying about this. 
 

much rather our management drafts bpa. 
 

big defenseman doesn’t mean good. Doubt very much Bichsel ends up a 1st pairing defender. JL has 1st line upside. 

[JeremyCuddles]

2 hours ago, coryberg said:

Lekkerimäki was the BPA by a country mile.

 

MacKenzie had JL at 8 and LB at 35.

Everyone wants BPA until some oversized pylon is around then they get hot and bothered by the size. Probably why people are still losing their minds over Tryamkin.

[Guest]

11 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Sigh. 18th overall, 6'6", LHD.

 

What the hell is wrong with our scouts/management?

Bichsel, who won’t turn 19 until next month, was selected 18th overall by the Stars in the 2022 NHL Draft. He’s one of Dallas’ more promising defense prospects, but nonetheless, his post-draft season was a struggle. Bichsel didn’t display much development in his game from last season, registering six points in 42 games with Leksands IF in the SHL and only three points in eight games with Leksand’s junior club. He recorded a minus rating at both levels of play.

[Hairy Kneel]

He was great in the world's. His style of shut down D reminds me of Ekblad, Hamilton, or Pieterangelo. He's lucky it was a ankle break rather than a knee or tendon imo. 

Can't wait to see him smurf little forwards. 

[Warhippy]

He was one of my two picks last year.  BPA has done the canucks very little in the way of help over the past few decades.  Virtanen was deemed BPA by a few lists.  Juolevi was BPA on a number as well.  The issue with lists is when we see that redraft 5 years later we get the idea that the people making those lists hit far less than they miss.  

 

Grabner was the BPA in 2006.  Postionally though we needed a big bodied RW/RHC and RHD but passed on Lewis, Stewart and Giroux

2007 with the Sedins and Kesler on line we needed a quality LW and RHD and grabbed BPA Patty White, passed on Perron and Subban

2008, still needed RHD, RHC and an LW.  Took BPA Hodgson and passed on Karlsson

2009....still needed RHC, RHD and LW and took BPA Schroeder over Johansson Palmeiri and O'Reilly

 

If you go way WAY back to numerous draft threads on this very forum.  The BPA chosen by Vancouver has consistently not been the best choice over one of the more positional needs.

 

Bischel is a safe pick to be a 4-6 defenceman at his floor and that's a good thing for any team

[250Integra]

On 5/7/2023 at 8:56 AM, Ghostsof1915 said:

Sigh. 18th overall, 6'6", LHD.

 

What the hell is wrong with our scouts/management?

Let me tell you about a higher drafted defenseman, who is even taller, is a RHD, and won the Calder trophy…

[AK_19]

22 hours ago, Warhippy said:

He was one of my two picks last year.  BPA has done the canucks very little in the way of help over the past few decades.  Virtanen was deemed BPA by a few lists.  Juolevi was BPA on a number as well.  The issue with lists is when we see that redraft 5 years later we get the idea that the people making those lists hit far less than they miss.  

 

Grabner was the BPA in 2006.  Postionally though we needed a big bodied RW/RHC and RHD but passed on Lewis, Stewart and Giroux

2007 with the Sedins and Kesler on line we needed a quality LW and RHD and grabbed BPA Patty White, passed on Perron and Subban

2008, still needed RHD, RHC and an LW.  Took BPA Hodgson and passed on Karlsson

2009....still needed RHC, RHD and LW and took BPA Schroeder over Johansson Palmeiri and O'Reilly

 

If you go way WAY back to numerous draft threads on this very forum.  The BPA chosen by Vancouver has consistently not been the best choice over one of the more positional needs.

 

Bischel is a safe pick to be a 4-6 defenceman at his floor and that's a good thing for any team

Joulevi and Patrick White were not BPA. Virtanen could be considered a stretch too, he had some rankings all the way to the second round.

[Warhippy]

20 hours ago, AK_19 said:

Joulevi and Patrick White were not BPA. Virtanen could be considered a stretch too, he had some rankings all the way to the second round.

Check the lists.  Check what was stated about them.  Nobody was happy with the OJ pick but he was the consensus best defenseman even though lost of us had tkachuk and sergachev ahead of him.

 

White was the BPA at that time at his position but didn't fill a need for us at the position needed.

 

At days end picking BPA consistently has actually been a negative for the Canucks org

[AK_19]

On 5/14/2023 at 9:41 AM, Warhippy said:

Check the lists.  Check what was stated about them.  Nobody was happy with the OJ pick but he was the consensus best defenseman even though lost of us had tkachuk and sergachev ahead of him.

 

White was the BPA at that time at his position but didn't fill a need for us at the position needed.

 

At days end picking BPA consistently has actually been a negative for the Canucks org

Well now you're just moving goalposts. The point your were making was BPA, not BPA for position of need which is contrary to the whole point of your post. Matthew Tkachuk was almost universally considered BPA for that draft. 

 

Here's some of the draft lists for Patrick White:

 

https://www.insidecollegehockey.com/7Archives/Draft/2007/predraft_ranks0536.htm

 

He was ranked #60 by Hockey News, #34 by ISS, #46 by TSN, and #21 by Mckeen's hockey. On the only list that ranked Patrick White better than where we drafted him, they also put Bill Sweat and Nick Petrecki in front of him who were available. Patrick White was NOT BPA. 

 

Awhile back we had someone do a couch potato drafter who did BPA based only on very simple stats. The couch potato regularly beat the Canucks drafting over the last decade. 

Edited May 16, 2023 by AK_19

[canuck73_3]

On 5/14/2023 at 2:50 PM, AK_19 said:

Well now you're just moving goalposts. The point your were making was BPA, not BPA for position of need which is contrary to the whole point of your post. Matthew Tkachuk was almost universally considered BPA for that draft. 

 

Here's some of the draft lists for Patrick White:

 

https://www.insidecollegehockey.com/7Archives/Draft/2007/predraft_ranks0536.htm

 

He was ranked #60 by Hockey News, #34 by ISS, #46 by TSN, and #21 by Mckeen's hockey. On the only list that ranked Patrick White better than where we drafted him, they also put Bill Sweat and Nick Petrecki in front of him who were available. Patrick White was NOT BPA. 

 

Awhile back we had someone do a couch potato drafter who did BPA based only on very simple stats. The couch potato regularly beat the Canucks drafting over the last decade. 

I wanted Luca Cunti because all name team. 

[Dazzle]

On 5/12/2023 at 2:12 PM, Warhippy said:

He was one of my two picks last year.  BPA has done the canucks very little in the way of help over the past few decades.  Virtanen was deemed BPA by a few lists.  Juolevi was BPA on a number as well.  The issue with lists is when we see that redraft 5 years later we get the idea that the people making those lists hit far less than they miss.  

 

Grabner was the BPA in 2006.  Postionally though we needed a big bodied RW/RHC and RHD but passed on Lewis, Stewart and Giroux

2007 with the Sedins and Kesler on line we needed a quality LW and RHD and grabbed BPA Patty White, passed on Perron and Subban

2008, still needed RHD, RHC and an LW.  Took BPA Hodgson and passed on Karlsson

2009....still needed RHC, RHD and LW and took BPA Schroeder over Johansson Palmeiri and O'Reilly

 

If you go way WAY back to numerous draft threads on this very forum.  The BPA chosen by Vancouver has consistently not been the best choice over one of the more positional needs.

 

Bischel is a safe pick to be a 4-6 defenceman at his floor and that's a good thing for any team

Grabner was not BPA. He was a reach from somewhere in the 2nd round, but was a great pick, in hindsight. Few players did what he did, while on the Canucks and on the other teams.

 

He just didn't much for Vancouver.

Edited May 23, 2023 by Dazzle

[coryberg]

On 5/12/2023 at 2:12 PM, Warhippy said:

Juolevi was BPA on a number as well

Out of 7 major draft rankings only mckeen's had OJ ahead of tkatchuk. ISS had him at 11 and future considerations had him at 12.