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[Report] Maple Leafs part ways with GM Kyle Dubas

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3 minutes ago, Canuck You said:

Dave Nonis. Underrated, Didn't have cap space to work with...

And he was fired before Burke's cap (not all his fault either, given the lockout) was about to shed.   What did Gillis do?  Well his first move was to give all of it to Sundin.   Thank you Sundin for being a friend of the Canucks, and not accepting a 2 x 10 million dollar deal.  Probably the most ridiculous deal in the history of the NHL if you think about it. 

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17 minutes ago, IBatch said:

And he was fired before Burke's cap (not all his fault either, given the lockout) was about to shed.   What did Gillis do?  Well his first move was to give all of it to Sundin.   Thank you Sundin for being a friend of the Canucks, and not accepting a 2 x 10 million dollar deal.  Probably the most ridiculous deal in the history of the NHL if you think about it. 

Would have cost the Sedins if he'd accepted the second year.

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54 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Since 1982, the Vancouver Canucks have won 2 President's trophies as the best team in the regular season, made the playoffs 23 times, won 18 playoff rounds and made the Stanley Cup finals 3 times. 

 

Since 1982, the Toronto Maple Leafs have won zero President's trophies, made the playoffs 23 times, won 14 playoff rounds and made the Stanley Cup finals zero times.

 

The Canucks have been a million times more competitive than the Maple Leafs over the last 41 years...

I think he meant in Duba's tenure when the Leafs averaged 106 points per season since he started when before they perpetually sucked and 105pts was their all time high.

 

First round memes blah blah yes. We have not posted a 100 pt team in a while. So for this decade that's been true.

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3 hours ago, King Heffy said:

This isn't good.  Toronto replacing him with a competent GM makes it more difficult for the other teams.  Hopefully someone else hires that idiot.

Dubas did not do a great job, but he was a lot better than Benning.

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18 minutes ago, JamesB said:

Dubas did not do a great job, but he was a lot better than Benning.

Not even close. Dubas is up there with Gillis and right behind Millbury in the conversation for worst GMs of all time.  Benning wasn't great, but he wasn't nearly as stupid as an unqualified clown like Dubas.

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3 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

It is actually. He decided it was ok to be a top heavy team. And it's cost them.

No offense but being top heavy IS smart and is the play. Look at NBA or MLB you just need a few good players to clutch it out.

 

TORONTO didn't part ways Dubas informed management it was a family decision not to come back, dude has a 2 to 1 win ratio of course he was always desired by Toronto it was him that didn't renew.

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2 hours ago, themcdeal said:

He put together a solid team which has had regular season success but it hasn't translated well into the playoffs

Your highest paid guys cant dissapear for an entire series. 

....And there it is! This is why guys shouldn't be paid an exhorbent amount of money when you have no idea if he can translate his great game into the post season. We have made that mistake and we have seen other teams do the same thing recently.

We know that the playoffs involve tighter checking and more physicality. If your top 6 guys do not possess that type of game in the regular season, what makes you think they are going to improve their game in the playoffs? If anything, they are going to have more trouble playing their game. 

Miller will do fine, Garland or Boeser? They may have a more difficult time with the tighter checking and added physicality.

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2 minutes ago, CanuckRookieFan said:

No offense but being top heavy IS smart and is the play. Look at NBA or MLB you just need a few good players to clutch it out.

 

TORONTO didn't part ways Dubas informed management it was a family decision not to come back, dude has a 2 to 1 win ratio of course he was always desired by Toronto it was him that didn't renew.

NHL isn't NBA though; even top guys play about a third of the game.  You need depth, which is why hiring someone like Dubas who doesn't understand the sport set them up to fail.

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4 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

It is actually. He decided it was ok to be a top heavy team. And it's cost them.

Yep, his biggest mistake might have been re-signing Marner instead of trading him. As much as he's been one of, if not the, most consistent performers on the Leafs, having 3 players making 11M+ means no room for depth. Marner's 10.9M would have been better spent beefing up their defense/bringing in a true starting goaltender/building better depth.

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4 hours ago, VegasCanuck said:

People can beat him up all they want for Virtanen, although, truthfully, who on this board didn't have him down as their pick.

 

Juolevi, who people continually beat him up about, had 2 major knee surgeries which affected and derailed his development, but people still hold that over him as any GM in Vancouver is expected to be clairvoyant to keep fans happy... lol

 

On the pre-draft scouting rankings I saw, Juolevi was 10th, 10th, 6th and 5th.  Matt Tkachuk wasn't lower than 5th on any of them and 4th on most.  Tkachuk was gifted to Benning and he went off book.  Juolevi was certainly not expected to turn out this bad and be this big of a bust...but that should have been somebody else's problem.

 

Juolevi is the only one of the top TWENTY ONE picks in that draft that didn't play in the NHL last year.

 

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3 hours ago, VegasCanuck said:

All teams have a president to establish team direction. Our head office was short staffed, he was doing too many jobs.

 

Joelevi was not off book, he was picked exactly where he was expected to go and even Burke said that they had Juolevi ranked dead even with Tkachuk. NO ONE, Not you, Not Benning can predict what happens to a player after you draft them in terms of injuries. If Tkachuk had 2 straight lost seasons with major season ending surgeries, reconstructing a knee, it could just as easily been Calgary who was out of luck on the pick.

 

LE was a highly sought after free agent. Guys who score 40 goals in their UFA year get 6 million deals. PERIOD. If you don't believe that, wait till July 1st and watch the money that gets thrown around.

 

Loui Eriksson has never scored 40 goals in his career.  He scored 30 in his free agency year before signing with the Canucks.  He had broken 30 once before.  He was not a career 30 or 40 goal scorer.  He was a career 25 goal scorer and had previously had dog years (10 goals in 61 games).  He had a significant uptick in his free agency year (not uncommon) and got to 30 (at the age of 30) for the first time in a long time.  His previous three seasons: 22, 10 and 12 goals (48 game season for the 12 but that's still not good).  Dallas traded him after the 12 goal season.

 

Loui was going to get a decent amount of money and term somewhere but the bum who signs him is the one who gets the blame.

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1 hour ago, CanuckRookieFan said:

No offense but being top heavy IS smart and is the play. Look at NBA or MLB you just need a few good players to clutch it out.

NHL has line changes and drastically different positions including a goal tender. Totally different sports. Top NBA and MLB teams can hide behind a few good players due to limited deployment.

 

A comparison to Lacrosse would make more sense. 

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