Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 This is not an opinion , this is a fact that Lawyers are not ethical human beings and that they do not enforce the law or protect the rights of our society. That lawyers merely use the law and re-interpret the law for the advantage of those paying them to do so. Therefore they are being unethical to the law the purport to serve, as they manipulate the law to mean whatever it is that they wish it to mean for the highest paying clientele. Now some would argue that they are ethical and helping their clients from being abused by law. Yet if so they are not enforcing the law, but modifying either its intent, definition or letter of the law using case law and arguments which are vaguely relevant to any particular reality of the law. There is always exceptions to any rule . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 I am describing a self regulating profession , that will resort to any means to avoid bringing disrepute upon their profession , which in itself is a conflict of interest . For all your protestations that things are different in canada , lawyers in canada , their ethics are self regulated , and you have provided no evidence to back up your claim that things are substantialy different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 It most assuredly is not a fact. I charitably described it as an opinion, which is all that it is. IMHO it an uninformed opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 It is most assuredly a fact , PROVE OTHERWISE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 You are describing how lawyers self-regulate in Australia. What you describe is not the situation in BC. I gave you evidence but you ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 The evidence you offered is 'suspect' and does nothing but make the broad generalisation that because we are different countries, we must have substantially different legal systems. I don't believe this is true.In the Rules of Professional Conduct (source: lsuc.on.ca (The Canadian legal society site)), Rule 6: Relationship to the Society and Other Lawyers, at 6.01 it states that "[you] shall conduct [yourself] in such a way as to maintain the integruty of the profession." In the Commentary to 6.01, it states that "... a lawyers conduct should reflect credit on the legal profession, inspire the confidence, respect and trust of clients and the community, and AVOID EVEN THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY." Need I say more? What you say here on this is suspect to me because you have a conflicting interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 No, what I have is actual personal experience in BC and that does not accord with your version of what occurs in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 I think what you say is suspect , and i have provided evidence as to why this is the case , you are bound by the rules of your profession . I know by direct experience , that is also the case in australia . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 this does not refute any of my claims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 You think incorrectly. What evidence have you provided that you believe would be binding upon me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navyblue Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I had a guy working at a gas station tell me all about these free men.You'd think they would need to use the system at some point so disregarding it would kinda put them at odds with living their life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Your "claims" are opinions based upon your experiences in another jurisdiction and in the context of a lawyer practising in BC, they are uninformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 I sited your rules of conduct . Are you saying that there are no rules of professional conduct binding you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 My claim is that lawyers merely use the law and re-interpret the law for the advantage of those paying them to do so. Therefore they are being unethical to the law the purport to serve, as they manipulate the law to mean whatever it is that they wish it to mean for the highest paying clientele. And you claim this is not the case , again i ask you to prove this is not the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 The word is "cited" and no those are not binding upon lawyers who practise anywhere other than in Ontario. If you are ignorant of that very basic fact about how the legal profession is regulated in Canada then carrying on any sort of debate is simply impossible. You do not have clue what are are posting about in respect of the legal profession in this country and in particular in BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 That is your opinion. I disagree with it and consider it to be totally uninformed in respect of lawyers in BC. You have no grasp of the facts of how lawyers are regulated in BC and yet you want to debate with someone who actually has the knowledge, training, experience and expertise in such matters in this jurisdiction. You are quite simply totally out of your depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 I am not a legal professional in australia , the words i m using are common , and can be found in any dictionary, and i am not claiming any special knowledge in the canadian legal systems . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 That what the lawyer my partner and I took to his own regulating body said , before we took him down , and made him accountable for his actions , and had him { his insurance company } offer monetary restitution . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 That has nothing to do with the practise and regulation of law in BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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