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8 minutes ago, theo5789 said:
I feel like I time travelled back to last offseason.
Haha you’re right. Though last season Canucks were still hoping to be competitive, this year it is expected.
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4 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:
He signed the deal in good faith. He didn’t pull a Luca Brasi on a Benning for him to ink a deal. Nobody (including himself) expected his game to fall off a cliff from day one. The league has guaranteed contracts. It’s a business. I like him to retire as much as anyone but it isn’t realistic given the money on the table.
Well hopefully Louie likes Utica. NY being one of the Covid hubs, riding the bus, no 1st class lifestyle, it’ll be the first times he’s done something for his contract. If he’s not in Utica and there are fans in the stands he will be booed. The fans patience is done. It was fine when the Canucks weren’t good and he was just taking a spot and not costing anything. But now the Canucks are losing out on signing their own free agents and others because of this anchor. He will be booed mercifully.
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46 minutes ago, rekker said:
Too young. Hamilton, Hamonic, too young. When was a top quality, 29 year old, low mileage dman traded?
Erik Karlsson
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Just now, drummerboy said:
So Virtanen and Rathbone for OEL.
If will cost at least a 1st to get rid of LE this year. Ant the pick you are offering is a gamble at that.
An underwhelming winger, and a D prospect for a top pairing D man.
Would you take Virtanen and Rathbone for Hughes?
I think you’re forgetting about $58 million. That’s a lot of money OEL need to be paid out. Not the same at all.
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8 minutes ago, aGENT said:
Most (all?) of the UFA's since Linden have left have been useful, good signings. Roussel/Beagle are a touch rich (when we were still lacking leverage... shocker) but otherwise you're talking out of your posterior.
A tad rich for Beagle and Rouss?? They couldn’t trade those contracts if they wanted too. How about Myers, Ferland and Benn? That’s almost $18 millions on depth players. You could even add Baertschi, Spooner and Sutter to Benning signings. I like Benning, he’s done great at the draft, which Canucks haven’t been good at in 50 years, but they are in cap trouble because of him, NOT Linden.
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2 minutes ago, aGENT said:
Linden was the one making 'unfair to the Sedins' comments. You sure you don't have that backwards?
Nope. Part of the reason Linden quit was because the Aquilini’s were trying to avoid a rebuild. If you disagree, just look at all money Benning has spent on crap UFA’s since Linden has left. Sure would be nice to have a bunch of cap room to go with our elc’s right now.
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7 hours ago, Lancaster said:
Lets do a some hypothetical scenarios... if JT Miller became a bust... would it still be a good trade or a bad trade?
But he’s not so.....what are you talking about?!? In fact, he was just name one of the top 50 players in the NHL. A 1st and 3rd seems quite cheap in retrospect.
What are the chances Canucks draft a player that would be in the top 100 with that mid-1st?How is this trade even debatable now with how well Miller has done?
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7 hours ago, IBatch said:
Hmmm. Yep longevity took some of the shine off his stats, had he retired at 38 like a meer mortal he’d be top ten in PPG etc. What your saying doesn’t hold up when you look what he accomplished as a first line Center without Coffey, Gretzky and a whole bunch of other guys from the mid-80’s hey days. And the unfortunately what he did with the NYRs....you know just was considered one of the best or the best player in the planet (with Gretzky and Lemieux in their primes) for a couple years soon after the trade.
As far as coward goes - he’s the guy that showed a still dominant MTL team and Robinson (you know the guy that systematically destroyed Shultz and every tough guy on that team sending the Philadelphia flue packing) that if they came after any of the young EDM players they’d have to go through him first - and that he was willing to bash any of their teeth in if they tried - way back in 1981.
He wasnt supposed to be such a great skater and skilled player - son of a hockey brawler that’s what EDM was supposedly getting too, one with wheels. He fought and fought well early on, guess people don’t remember that, probably because most posting about this weren’t alive, and there was no internet or highlights showing every fight back then either. When has Marchand fought?
Yes I agree he was a very dirty player at times too. That said who wouldn’t want a 20-34 year old Messier on their team? Nobody is the answer. Even his last year he scored around 20 goals - and he played right through the dead puck era.
This doesn’t mean I like the guy - although I have to admit the hate has gone down over the years and begrudgingly turned into respect. I didn’t mind when we got him at first either - but I sure minded when it was like throwing a hand grenade into the best team we’ve ever had on paper - sending Linden and some of his faithful packing. Even though we’d never had the WCE era or Sedin era without that trade - is still rather Linden stayed, stayed the Captain and Messier accepted a second line role - and both Mogilny and Bure stayed of course.
Bet a lot of CDCers would have preferred the Linden trade, the WCE era and the Sedin ere though. Messier coming was the biggest metric in any of that ever occurring. Maybe some thank you cards are in order ha ha.
Messier had the luxury of playing on stacked teams his whole career. Vancouver was his first non stacked team that he was depended on to carry a team and we all know how that went. The amount of dirty hits and elbows he laid was cowardly.
But you’re right, I’d take him on my team anyday, just like Marchand and Kesler. Their compete level is through the roof.
Messier was a great player but he isn’t among the greatest, he’s not top 15-20 all time.
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2 hours ago, Boudrias said:Sorry ALF but Messier was one of the best ever. You can dislike the man but he played with a physical dominance that carried him to the top. The Gretzky Oilers are the best team I ever watched except, maybe, Beliveau’s team with a young LaFleur.
He’s not even top 20. He’s 30th in points per game and ranked 105th in goals per game. He scored a lot of his points playing against terrible 2nd pair defenses while every team focused on Gretzky. He would do cheap $&!# constantly and never answer for it. He was a 1980’s Marchand, good (not great) player but a coward who made his teammates fight his battles.
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4 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:
meh, whatever. His PK numbers are out there if you care to go look. Yes the guys offensive production is 1/2 of what it should be, but the endless nitpicking on the guy is pathetic imo.
Nitpicking hahahaha, he made $6mil to be ok at PK. That’s not nitpicking that’s stating the obvious.
Also, Beagle and Motte were the teams lead penalty killers. Check your stats again.
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3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:
no, its actually not that important of a stat, unless you play for Torts. Loui is a good PK player, its one of the reasons we were the 11th best PK last year.
Well considering most coaches want players to block shots and players are adding equipment so they get hurt less I strongly disagree. And Canucks were good on PK because of players like Markstrom and Edler and his league leading blocked shots
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11 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:
thats about the most useless stat to bring up to argue Loui's impact on the defensive side of his game.
Blocked shots is a useless stat?? Nope. A defensive minded player and one that plays PK tends to block shots. His takeaways wasn’t very good either, behind Motte and Leivo.
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22 minutes ago, stawns said:In no way am I happy that a bottom six player is taking up $6m in cap space. However, at the time that was market value for LE and he was a player that JB knew and JB knows his stuff. It is what it is and there's not a whole lot to be done about.........he's a solid bottom 6 fwd and a pretty good penalty killer, and as long as he's capable there I don't see FA being too keen on paying him to play in Utica.
Nope. LE was 15th on the team in blocked shots last year, behind Virtanen and only a few blocked shots ahead of offensive minded Boeser. While also being -11. Defensive minded hahaha. He’s not good anymore, yes he’s human and deserves to be treated with respect but no he does not deserve or should be gifted a roster spot. If he wants those last couple million he can do it in Utica. This is a performance business, spots are earned not given.
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19 minutes ago, grandmaster said:
Just checked their stats on hockeydb and have to say no to these 2 plugs. They won’t be good enough to make the team. They bring nothing to the table. Rather bury Eriksson in the minors and just pay the 5M cap hit.
The trade save an extra million off the cap and more importantly 1 less year. Big yes to this deal.
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11 minutes ago, thundernuts said:
I always thought that was the case, but I also remember a trade that took place a year or 2 ago that was similar to what I was pondering.
I can’t remember who was involved, but I remember the reported reasoning behind it was that the team that traded the injured player did so because the owner did not want to pay a player on LTIR.
Likely just some wishful thinking on my part.
Was it the Clarkson/Horton trade? Horton was done and Clarkson was still playing. Columbus wanted the player that was still playing not on LTIR and the Leafs wanted the LTIR, so they flipped bad contracts.
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4 minutes ago, Maketherightmove said:What an incredibly stupid way to frame this. Who cares if a guy has the worst "family values" and is a total dirtbag (as long as everything's legal...), if they perform on the ice, that's what matters.
Wrong. Character and team chemistry is very important
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12 hours ago, wai_lai416 said:
lol i can also see Benning fired before Eriksson getting sent to the AHL. Aqualini is not in the business to lose money. he already paid 3mil to play in the AHL last year.. he ain't gonna pay 6mil for eriksson to play in the AHL. yes it's only 3mil but he already paid the bonus so technically that's still 6mil he paying/paid. plus the spooner buy out etc etc. Benning is cutting into Aqualini's profit and there's no way in hell i can see him ok with paying eriksson salary to play in the AHL.
Unless the LE signing was pushed by the Aquilini’s because they were still trying to chase playoff revenue despite everyone screaming for a rebuild.
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25 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said:
Looks like there are going to be contending team desperate to move good players due to cap issues, even Benning said prices will start going down, not sure why he didnt just wait a bit.
Because other teams wanted Miller too. Stevie Y being one of them. Which also says a lot about Miller that Yzerman was trying to trade for him again.
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13 hours ago, WalkWithElias40 said:
Id take Ryan Hartman anyday ! wow cant beliee dallas didnt qualify him he still holds value !
Supposedly he's an ass. Not worth wrecking team chemistry
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4 hours ago, The Great Canucks said:No, not exactly this. What a god awful take. We traded ONE first round pick, and it was for a player in his prime with term, not some one year rental. That doesn't make us mediocre. When you have a core of Pettersson, Hughes, Horvat, Boeser and Demko, with Juolevi and Podkolzin eventually following, you damn well better start trying to compete.
At what point do you stop sitting on your ass and actually try going for it? Or have you become so addicted to losing already? How many first round picks do we need until it's finally time to start winning? What exactly are we waiting on?
Awesome post!
At what point does losing become apart of the culture? Benning has been preaching that the kids need to be developed in a competitive and winning environment or it’ll affect their development (Edmonton). How many more losing seasons must Horvat endure? For a fan base that like to consider themselves intelligent, they sure are dumb.
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No to trading Stecher, such a smart player. His high hockey IQ makes up for his size.
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Hutton, 10th overall for Barrie and the 16th overall.
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2 minutes ago, ItTakesAnArmy said:
they would not have to, not enough games i think.
benning would love subban, as a media distraction
I don’t think eligibility is linked to games.
You could be right about Benning liking Subban as a distractor. Give this city’s media something to talk about so they don’t have to continually make up topics.
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Just now, ItTakesAnArmy said:
do something easy
buyout Tryamkin's khl contract. it is done all the time in the khl
if the team cannot arrange for his agent to do it or some outside lawyer.
there is no rule against it as far as i know
Let Tryamkin play another year in the KHL, then the Canucks won’t have to use a draft exemption on him. They’re not winning the cup next year.
Does the Canucks want a Subban personality? I’m not sure of the answer. Good player but comes with a lot of demanded spotlight.
[Rumour] Alex Pietrangelo to test free agency
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Just like Luongo did in Florida.