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    [RUMOUR] William Nylander seeking a contract over $10 million

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    2 minutes ago, EdgarM said:

    I already told you they were overpaid as was Bo, unless you think Bo is worth 8.5. You are comparing only to the players on 1 team. You are right, if I am only looking at the guys on my team, yeah he was being underpaid. His real worth? or his teammates real worth? 

    If I am a GM in the NHL looking at players available in that salary brackett? I am not looking at anyone in a Leaf uniform. 

    I am a bit leary of paying Petey any amount he wants either as we have not seen how he deals with the rigors of a long playoff run. Who knows, he may be a Matthews, Marner or JT too, when it comes to being a playoff performer or not.

    I am not weary of paying anything else than what petey wants. 

    Fire Green!

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    34 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said:

    Ditto and an emoji for writing the article.  Perhaps give the sheeps, a brake cause most of us are just (longtime) fans, with an untrained eye,  that tends to be impulsive with our comments, especially, after a lost - we just want the Canucks to win. :metal:

    AMEN!!!!!!!! 

    Pettersson jersey

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    11 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

    Why do you want the 50 patch that'll make it ugly I'd be hoping it doesn't. Sweet jersey that patch will ruin it

    Imo

    Why? I’ve spent enough on it I am only just looking if the patch comes with it, thanks to who said nice things. I’ve waited years for a jersey like this. Only other question I have is maybe a fight strap 

    Pettersson jersey

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    I bought a EP jersey a few days ago which I’m absolutely stoked about. I bought the expensive 19/20 retro skate logo black authentic one. Almost 300 bucks. Do u think it will have the 50th year patch? I’m hoping so. 

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    [Confirmed] Jim Benning signs as new Canucks GM

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    In hindsight, it's clear that MG made a mistake by letting Ehrhoff walk. That's not to say that he should have matched that ridiculous 10-year front-loaded contract. Just imagine the penalties we'd be looking at with Ehrhoff plus the Luongo cap circumvention.

    But it was pretty obvious at the time that Ehrhoff, and rightly so IMHO, felt that he shouldn't have his salary determined by an arbitrary structure that said no one on the Canucks' D could make more that the $4.6 million Gillis awarded to Bieksa. Gillis broke his internal cap to retain Edler two years later. At the time of the Ehrhoff negotiations, I honestly believe that a $5 million to $5.5 million cap hit (on a reasonable term) would have gotten an extension done. Gillis refused to go above an offer that was identical to Bieksa's.

    That all said, the biggest mistake that Gillis made was not in letting Ehrhoff (and also Salo, Samuelsson, etc.) go. It was in failing to replace these players. It was the right choice not to pay Ehrhoff $40 million over ten years (and $10 million in the first season). It made sense to move on from aging veterans like Salo and Samuelsson. The problem was that management failed to recognize the roles these players played and how crucial they were to the overall model that had made the Canucks the best team in the NHL for a couple years (or at least through 2010-11).

    The signing of Garrison proved just how far off the mark Gillis (and the pro scouts) were. It was not a mistake, in itself, to have signed Garrison. He's a good player and he's signed to a pretty good deal, given his value as an individual asset. The mistake was in believing that Jason Garrison was a replacement for Salo (and that Edler could replace Ehrhoff--or even play that kind of role).

    Sami Salo was not merely a guy with a hard shot. He did a lot more than that, most notably with his ability to calmly and competently move the puck--and he could do so in his own zone, through the neutral zone, and in the offensive zone.

    Coupled with the loss of their best puckmover, in Ehrhoff, the Salo departure cemented the change on the Canucks from one of the league's premiere puckmoving and transition teams--and one of the most potent offenses both on the power play and at 5v5--to an overall group that suddenly looked "slow" and plodding, often struggled to traverse the ice between the two blue lines, and lacked a "quarterback" type on the back end during offensive zone time and on the power play--and with a corresponding decline in effectiveness and production rates on offense.

    The Canucks already had a guy with a bomb from the point. Edler's 103 MPH slapper is just as hard as Garrison's (and Salo's). But by adding Garrison and letting Ehrhoff and Salo walk, the Canucks had two trigger men and no one at the point to set them up (and with no puck rushing types on D, they also now had no one who could really help the forwards gain--and maintain--the offensive zone).

    Edler tried his damnedest to become an offensive #1D would could drive the team's offense. But he's just not that guy. He lost, in back-to-back years, his two best defensive partners and the guys who had been critical in the Canucks getting full value out of Edler. The resulting problems are now well-documented and this entirely avoidable "decline" is now two years and running.

    MG (and his staff) should have foreseen these problems. The easiest thing would have been to retain Ehrhoff and Salo. This would have kept the Canucks contending for at least a couple more years. The better choice would have been to retain one of them as a stopgap and to have devoted most of this organization's focus to finding new, younger replacement talent that could keep the Canucks playing a winning style of hockey into the future.

    Unfortunately, Vancouver chose door #3 and we now have to hope that new management and coaches will lead to the new players that are necessary to finally clean-up this mess. Hopefully Benning and company can figure things out on a timeline that still gets some value out of the Sedins (and Edler/Garrison).

    I was going to try to say something but look all my ideas in one lol!

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