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5 hours ago, ImConfused said:
Okay so it goes without saying that we also have to fire Green, Benning, and all the other coaches and probably the training staff too. Might as well fire the zamboni driver while we are at it as well, just to make sure we have a clean slate going forward.
That said, I have the basis for two huge deals that could really right the sinking ship for the Canucks, and I am here to offer them for free to whoever our new incoming GM would be!
Trade #1:
To Calgary: Demko, Hughes
To Vancouver: Markstrom, Tanev, 3rd round pick
Why Vancouver does this: It's time to jettison our overrated prospects who are clearly busts, before Calgary is any the wiser. Also we recoup the 3rd round pick that JB WASTED in the Schmidt trade.
Why Calgary does this: It's basically a free acquisition for them as they paid nothing to acquire Marky and Tanev, and they save some money off the salary cap from their over-expensive contracts.
This trade is a classic example of buy low, sell high. Demko and Hughes are at their peak value now but soon will be considered damaged goods when the Canucks continue on their 50-ish game losing streak this season.
Trade #2:
To Montreal: Boeser, Petterson, 2021 first rd pick, 2022 first rd pick
To Vancouver: Toffoli
Why Vancouver does this: We get a clear upgrade on offense in the HAT TRICK MACHINE Tyler Toffoli, and again we are selling players while value is high. Pettersson was widely regarded as a top up and coming rookie in this league up until about 10 days ago, but now it's clear that somehow he's lost all his talent like in Space Jam. Boeser and the two firsts are sweeteners as obviously Montreal doesn't give up a guy that scores 5 goals in 2 games for cheap.
Why Montreal does this: They get Pettersson as kind of a reclamation project, there's probably around a 2-3% chance that Petey returns to anything more than a shadow of his former self, but even at those odds MTL would be crazy not to take a flyer on Elias. Boeser is good for their AHL depth and the two first rounders can be used to draft whoever has the most french-sounding last name at the drafts.
I think if we quickly pull the trigger on these two deals and firing our entire coaching and training staff, hell, even fire the lady that makes copies in the office and bring in someone with more grit like Dan Hamhuis or Ryan Kesler to replace her - then we will be right back on track for a huge winning streak and a subsequent Stanley Cup Parade after this season.
Thoughts?
Surely you are high!
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1 hour ago, Jayinblack said:
If Buffalo has an internal cap then they would make a good trade partner.
They have only 10 fwds signed (plus 2 unsigned RFAs) and 8 defencemen signed (plus 1 unsigned RFA), 5 of which are RD.
Miller makes $3.875M this year for 2 more years... cap hit AND real dollars.
Trading him for Eriksson would increase their cap hit, but save them $2.75M in real $$ over the two years.
They'd resolve an excess RD problem and gain a fwd which they need.
Canucks have extra fwds right now and need RD. They'd also save ~$2M in cap space. And as a bonus, reunite Schmidt with Miller (who put up 2 good seasons with Vegas right before a bad year last year in Buffalo).
I put Eriksson+ in the title, presuming JB would need to add a sweetener pick/prospect.
Gee, I wonder why GMJB never thought of this?
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2 hours ago, EP40. said:
Rick Dhaliwal on TSN1040: “Here’s an update on Loui Eriksson - no trade. What a shock. JP Barry is not a miracle worker, he’s not Houdini. Jim Benning has been trying to move him for 2+ years. The Canucks won’t pick up any part of the cap hit or add a sweetener.”
...this is why we may lose Tanev or/and Marky both to Free Agency.
This is supposed to be competent GMing? Look I’m proud of where JB got this team to but if the league has transitioned to winning with young players on ELC’s, then having kept Eriksson this long and still not finding a suitor only means our window to win is dented and closed that much more.
Playoff experience was great and all for the young guns to rally around and improve on. But how can the team get better if you don’t have available funds to be able to strengthen around them when in fact you’ll be doing the opposite actually by having quality roster casualties as a consequence? Eriksson’s cap is preventing a lot this team can do and it’s ability to improve. He wasn’t even played during the playoffs until necessary to fill-in for others so let’s not talk about him being a good role player for the bottom6...he’s not paid to and call a spade a spade, is a buyout worthy player holding this team back. So illogical that this is the stance management is taking
This was discussed on HNIC? or the radio, but essentially, Lou's bonus has been payed and the actual dollars ro be
payed is around 2,5 million x 2yrs.
The Cap $ is 6 mil x 2 which may interest a team trying to get to the floor.
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3 hours ago, Me_ said:
As per Elliot Friedman, apparently Mike Gillis is one of the front runners for the GM job in New Jersey.
NJD
Bärtschi
Goldobin
Juolevi
VAN1st ‘20 (ARI) (Currently 11OA20)
New Jersey also holds the current 6OA20 and 20OA20.Elliot never said that, you drunk?
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6 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:Yet Jimbo signed him for 2 yrs, cuz he is such a good scout, harumph!
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3 hours ago, Sean83 said:
There seems to be a lot of buzz around this wonderful team we have. Check out the below articles:
https://www.nhl.com/news/vancouver-set-up-well-for-deep-playoff-run-at-stanley-cup/c-315304424
David Amber of CBC has also been high on us all year.
With the addition of Toffoli, Boesser rumored to have said he won't be out for a horrendous amount of time, and if Markstrom continues to play out of his mind, we could very well make AT LEAST the WCF. This is a lot like 2011 in a lot of ways. Other teams in the league are weak. Wide-open playoff race. 1 more nice acquisition before the TDL and we may be able to make a strong run at the championship (although those 2 articles above already peg us for going deep).
I think we are likely to come out of the 1st round. Then our opponent in Round 2 will be Vegas, Calgary, or Edmonton. We have demonstrated the ability to crush all 3 of those teams this year. So by virtue of playing against one of those 3 in the 2nd round, we have a somewhat greater chance of making to the WCF almost by default, just due to the luck of playoff seeding.
What do you think?
You're high !
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Basically, you have cited information everyone is aware of, nothing new here. Anyone can look back and say ..........
GMJB answers to the owner, no move is made without his approval, this is why he is the GM. Anyone with half a brain and some fortitude was fired by the
owner. What are you going to do if you replace GMJB? Owner will just hire who he wants and the cycle continues. Better if the owner would stop being like a Jerry Jones ( look it up if you are too young to know ).
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I still think that no deal will get done, as much as I would like a bidding war to occur I still don't think it will happen.
I agree, GMMG will reluctantly scowl to the mic and make the pre-rehearsed rhetoric speach, 'we talked to a number of teams.. blah, blah, blah, but it's hard to make a trade and it's has to make sense...blah, blah, blah'
Buckle up , we've got Gillis for a few more years, like or not.
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At least guys we showed them that we won't get run over like in past years.
who gives a rat's ass, score some effin goals!
Big effin deal, we won't get pushed around, hell that's worth what? oh, ya ZERO POINTS in the standings, ZERO CHANCE of getting out of the first round.
GMMG, be proud, your small semi skilled team with so many core players locked to lengthy contracts will bite us in the ass for years to come.
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"@HackswithHaggs: Just saw a replay. Shawn Thornton yanked Orpik to the ice and then punched him twice in the head when he was down. Knocked him out cold"
"@penguins: Brooks Orpik wheeled off the ice on a stretcher. Updates as they become available."
"@JoeYerdonPHT: Match penalty for Thornton - as it should be."
Absolutely garbage.
Will get a video up when it surfaces
EDIT: Here's a vine of the incident : https://t.co/iEA1QNF6IE
25 Games, no less
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I don't like this trade for the Islanders.
Geeez, Is he not a UFA after this year?
I heard all the talk about Vannek going to Minni? WTF!
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I know allot of people are going to scorch me for this but I fail to see the reason why nobody questions his ability to play in the nhl. Every game i watch with him in the lineup(all of them) I find myself screaming at the tv because of the stupid stuff the guy does. Personally i'd rather have any of the guys that are fighting for a spot on the team rather than burrows. Everyone's #1 reason they like this guy from what I read on this forum "He's great on the pk. Who cares! Anyone can do this thats fighting for a spot. He can't score and i'm tired of kesler carrying this guy on his back night after night, I'm tired of him losing the puck, falling down everywhere seriously this guy falls down a hundred times a night can't he skate its ridiculous, stupid penalties its endless. "He plays with grit" is another common description tossed out when his name comes up. That ok sure he pisses off guys but fails to do really be able finish that job off by being able to fight because he can't. IMOP he's an embarrassment to the team. Please Gillis let this guy go keep Krog or Pettinger or Brown whoever. let er rip.
Clutch , Do we really need him? I propose a regulation that in order to post on CDC, one needs at the very least, a half a brain!
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Accept our fate [Proposal] 2 more years of suffering
in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
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The rub here is I would wager some or all of your points have been tried and failed. NObody is willing to take any of our ' fringe' players for any value in return. It is us who would have to sweeten the pot with draft picks and retention. GMJB put us in such a corner that there is no escape. Any Cap Relief will go to Petey, Hughes, a top 4 D, a top 6 fwd. We got 1 more yr of the Luong recapture, 1 more yr of Loui, 1 more of Roussel, 1 more yr of Beagle, 3 more yrs of Myers & Ferland, we're hooped!!