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    Burrows? Do We Really Need Him?

    in Canucks Talk

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    Yeah, not so easy to do with a fractured ankle or a broken jaw. Folks are sure quick to turn on injured players and forget what initiated their struggles. Ironic or predictable that Ballard, Raymond, Edler and Burrows have become the prime whipping boys on these boards over the past five years?

    Yeah, a lot of fickle fans on here, recovery from injury takes time. It's good to see a healthy Burrows playing so well so early in the season!

    Burrows? Do We Really Need Him?

    in Canucks Talk

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    Loved the top line, but Burr earned the first star tonight imo.

    5 hits, a goal, a takeaway, and an absolute nuissance to play against, in hard on the forecheck the entire game, puck hounding, going to the net and playing in the hard areas every chance he got.

    Simply outstanding performance imo.

    Agree. Battling with so much tenacity on every shift, this is the Burrows we know and love. 5 hits in one game, that's a lot of "bang for your buck".

    [Report] Torts Fired

    in Canucks Talk

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    Torts's days were numbered after Gillis was fired and Linden was hired. I thought he would have been long gone before now. It was a mistake hiring Torts as FA alluded to at President Linden's first presser.

    The "I would like to see Torts stay for at least one more year" thread.

    in Canucks Talk

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    Might as well face it. Torts isn't going anywhere this summer. Pretty sure Aquilini isn't going to payout Gills (most likely already happened) buyout what ever (name X) player in the summer, AND payout Torts as well? Yes Aquilini does have a lot of money, but he didn't get it by being frivolous. Besides have you read the papers lately? Appears the Aquilinis have been on a bit of a property - business buying spree. Might not feel too comfortable paying out a coach that just might pay dividends for the team given the right mix of players. Also. GM's and coaches see to be dropping like flies this offseason with possibly more to come. If Benning is our man, and the Bruins do go deep into the playoffs, we might not see Benning until just before the draft. (mid June) Might not be very many decent coaching candidates even left by then. My money is on Torts starting the 2014-2015 season as the Canucks head coach albeit on a VERY, VERY short lease. Assistants, etc., may be different from last year depending on a number of factors.

    :)

    :bigblush:

    The "I would like to see Torts stay for at least one more year" thread.

    in Canucks Talk

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    Torts still here haters gonna hate.

    We cant keep firing a coach every year while the core remains the same.

    I'm surprised that both Torts and this thread are not long gone by now.

    Like a lot of others, I do not hate Torts, I just think he is the wrong coach for our current roster. It was a mistake to hire him in the first place and the sooner that mistake is rectified, the better.

    As I have already stated much earlier in this thread, the core of this roster is not going anywhere anytime soon. Like it or not, the previous management group tied this current core to the organization with NTC's for many years to come.

    A lot of us agree that Tort's does not have the right roster to play his style of hockey, it's a misfit. Fortunately, he does not have a NTC. The only solution to this problem is to let him go and hire a coach that is a better fit.

    ADSF: (1) Boston Bruins vs (4) Detroit Red Wings ‎

    in General Hockey Discussion

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    Mike Babcock expressed that....that the Wings had 4 roughing penalties...he said "we haven't had 4 roughing penalties all year". He said they totally bought in to playing the Bruins' game and it killed them...same thing they sucked us into.

    That's their game plan...goonery and hope the other team responds and gets pulled off their game.

    The Bruins are neanderthals. It's like someone dragged them straight out of a cave and threw them onto the ice.

    That sums it up.

    The nasty Bruins are masters at getting under the other team's skin and they have the muscle to back it up. Still it's pretty damn hard to turn the other cheek with a stick jammed up your crouch.

    The "I would like to see Torts stay for at least one more year" thread.

    in Canucks Talk

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    Torts had the Canucks going gangbusters before the injuries hit and he had to change his style and approach to what was left of the Canucks due to those injuries and the fact the we had NO DEPTH on this team whatsoever this past season. I personally thought he did pretty well with what he had to work with, which again, AFTER the injuries, (and they were significant) was ZILCH. In hindsight though, he has already admitted his fault this season in not returning to the formula/style that had the Canucks winning just about every game in Dec-Jan after the team became healthy again. Strikes me as more than a one trick pony. As far as the comparison to the Rangers and AV. Pretty obvious AV took over a better team in the Ranges than Torts did in the Canucks. AV took over a team Torts had worked with for the past 4 years that went from not making the playoffs to conference finals, while Torts took over a team that has been in a steady decline (under AV NOT Torts) since loosing to the Bruins in game 7. Pretty significant difference in my books. Still, Torts did a GREAT job motivating and installing his system at the beginning of the season, and if memory serves me right, I believe we had a better record than AV and the Rangers up to when the injuries hit the Canucks.

    NOT blaming everything entirely on the injuries as there appears to be other mitigating factors with MG, etc., but I dare say there isn't another team in the league that could have posted a winning record this past season with the key injuries the Canucks faced, especially when you factor in the LACK of depth the Canucks have at those key positions.

    Torts is a great coach and is the right coach for the Canucks given a few roster changes and an influx of skilled, energetic, youth to augment the (obviously) aging core of players currently on the roster.

    :)

    I agree that injuries and lack of depth were partly responsible for this season's collapse, but there is more to it than that.

    Torts stated that his change of style was simply lifting his foot off of the gas and not stepping back down quicker. It's not a change in style, it's a change in the intensity of delivering the same message.

    Collapsing zone defence, block the shot, dump it out, chase, dump it in, chase... Good system for a less talented team or line trying to compete against a more skilled team/line. It's a waste of time and energy for players that are capable of controlling and moving the puck especially like the Sedins. Lacking speed and size, dump and chase should be their last option, not their first. This is one of Torts's major mismanagements, implementing a system that is clearly not suited to the roster available to him. Furthermore, there is no evidence that there will be any systematic change under his leadership as history suggest.

    Heed the wise words of Glen Sather, the sooner Torts is gone the better.

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    The "I would like to see Torts stay for at least one more year" thread.

    in Canucks Talk

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    Chip,chase and collapse (boring)clearly did not work for the Canucks..JT clearly did not utilize the teams strengths..Maybe the coach should have adapted a system that suited the players he had ?..JTs one size fits all system stifled an already challenged offense..

    AVs country club..?..Ranger players practically mutinied under Tortorella..That's pretty much why he was canned ( when Lundquist was considering not coming back ,that was the nail in the coffin for JT)..The act wears thin..I've seen enough

    Couldn't agree more.

    The "I would like to see Torts stay for at least one more year" thread.

    in Canucks Talk

    Posted

    Let's also not forget that the salary cap also fell off a cliff while the Canucks were already spending to the cap, plus hamstrung with numerous unmovable, high-end contracts with NTC.

    Yes, the cap crunch did hurt the Canucks for the past 2 seasons and this with the rash of injuries did not help the fact that we could have used more depth.

    However, this has no bearing on the fact that Torts misused and mismanaged the assets he did have. Too many players had terrible seasons, that fact is glaring.

    The "I would like to see Torts stay for at least one more year" thread.

    in Canucks Talk

    Posted

    You want players that can be challenged and respond, and aside from a select few players on the team right now, much of the current line up couldn't. Sometimes the truth can be unsettling.

    Torts overused half of his bench in the first 2 months burning them out by Christmas. Not having confidence in the over half, they never found their footing until very late in the season if at all. Truth is Torts did not manage his roster very well.

    Tortorella: Canucks Are Getting Old

    in Canucks Talk

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    Torts believes in four lines. He also believes in depth. If Tortorella has depth, you'll see four lines.

    Actions speak louder than words. Torts recently said that he is a 4 line guy but his history in the NHL does not bear that out. That recent statement sounds more like he was appealing to Linden for his job next season.

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