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    Posted · Edited by dajusta

    Oh my goodness, just came back to this thread after many years and find out it's coming to an end?

     

    Thank you to all the people who put in time and energy into supporting this forum.  I've been here since 04 I think (when it was on another platform, and eventually it was migrated over).  *Edit, I've been here since Jan 03!*

     

    Have people talked about a discord channel or something to continue the Canucks talk?  There are so many other threads and forums too.  Politics talk, off topic talk, etc.

    The Avengers: Endgame Talk

    in Off-Topic General

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    *Big Spoilers*

     

    I'd like to start a conversation about the Time Heist.  I would like to critique it in a logical way, not in a movie/entertainment way, but in a LOGICAL way.

     

    Here is what happened in the movie first:

     

    First Group: Captain America + Iron Man + Ant Man + Professor Hulk go after 3 stones (Mind Stone, Space Stone/Tesseract, Time Stone) Location/Time New York 2012

    Second Group: Thor + Rocket go after the Aether (Reality Stone) Location/Time Asgard 2013

    Third Group: Black Widow + Hawkeye go after Soul Stone , War Machine + Nebula go after Power Stone (Morag, Vormir 2014)

     

    I can understand why the movie set this up on a "entertaining" level, but from a logical perspective it would be interesting to see some changes.

     

    Logical Approach:

     

    1.  The most unknown infinity stone is the Soul Stone.  No avenger has any experience of it, its location, not even its power.  It wouldn't make sense to send two extremely low powered heroes to go get it on this critical mission (yes black widow and hawkeye are pretty low powered)

    2.  Also, Vormir is on a completely different planet.  It is LOGICAL to at least send Rocket or Nebula to Vormir because of their outer outer space planetary experience

    3.  So let's say Rocket goes to Vormir, plus another powerful Avenger say Iron Man (who could survive in space with his suit), it makes LOGICAL sense

    4.  Out of the two, Rocket and Iron Man would have to sacrifice for the soul stone, I'd say it would be Rocket, but he LOGICALLY make a fight over it (I think Iron Man would kill Rocket in order to continue the mission)

    5.  For the NY team, if Iron Man doesn't go, then the team is left to Captain America, Ant Man, and Professor Hulk (either Black Widow or Hawkeye can join)

    6.  Professor Hulk goes to the Ancient One to get the Time Stone, I think that went pretty well 

    7.  Captain America picking up the Mind Stone with the use of Hail Hydra is pretty clever, so far so good

    8.  Relying on Ant Man, Black Widow and Hawkeye to secure the Space Stone/Tesseract? They might not be able to do so... they either have to fight through the 2012 Avengers to get the Space Stone/Tesseract, or steal it under their noses somehow.  Ant Man with the combination of Hawkeye's arrow move again might work.  

    9.  For the Asgard team, from the viewer's perspective this was kind of easy.  The only problem was Thor's depression or PTSD.  Who would have been able to get the Aether/Reality Stone while Thor is consoled by his mom?  I could see Black Widow sneaking in pretty well.  If Rocket could sneak in, I'm sure Black Widow could as well.  

    10.  Or the most logical approach is for the team to see that Thor is in NO shape or form to actually function on a CRITICAL mission, and he gets benched from the mission, relying on Black Widow to do this mission on her own.  

    11.  If Thor DOES get benched, then they free themselves 1 round trip of Pym Particles, and give them to a group that they see might have difficulty, for example one of the NY team members.

    12.  If the NY team has an extra round time trip, who will use it in case of their failed mission?  The most reliable would be Captain America.

    13.  Captain America wouldn't think to go New Jersey 1970 (that was Iron Man's knowledge)

    14.  Considering they already have the Time Stone, and the Mind Stone, he just needed 1 place in time to get the Space/Tesseract

    15.  Where would Captain America go to get it?  A place that ONLY CAPTAIN AMERICA knew where the Tesseract is FOR SURE?

    16.  Captain America would pick the time when he saw it while fighting Red Skull (end of Captain America 1)

    17.  There would be two Captain Americas fighting Red Skull, and our Cap would have to explain to Past Cap why he needs the Tesseract.  Then time jumps back home. 

     

    So in the logical approach, these changes were possible:

    -Rocket and Iron Man get into a fight on who will sacrifice their soul

    -Iron Man would kill Rocket, getting the Soul Stone

    -NY team could fail their mission, and not have Tony there to find a back up plan

    -Thor gets benched, frees up Pym Particles

    -Extra 1 round time trip extra for the NY group, who would use it?

    -Captain America uses the extra time jump to get the Tesseract during his first fight with Red Skull (end of Captain America 1)

     

    What are your thoughts?

     

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted · Edited by dajusta

    That's Fedors M.O. He always bleeds. he always takes some punches. He always looks like someone can take advantage of him. He always wins.

    Agreed.

    So who's next for Fedor in Strikeforce? Once he beats Overeem and Werdum, there's going to be nobody left unless they sign some young guys.

    The UFC has Carwin, Velasquez and Dos Santos. Those are the guys he's going to have to go through at some time. I couldn't care less about Lesnar.

    You mean, what's next for Lesnar?

    Dana was just BEGGING to get Fedor into the UFC to fight Lesnar, but now after Carwin (and i guess Lesnar will win), what's next for Lesnar??

    Fedor can go through Overeem, Werdum, and pretty much retire his legendary status. He can pull a Floydweather and come out of retirement once the right guy comes along. Lesnar can't do that. He's a Mike Tyson with no opponents around him.

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

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    The UFC doesn't have to cross promote anything. Cross promotion may work for an up start company, but not for a company with the size and global reach and appeal that the UFC has.

    I disagree. UFC is dominant in North America, not globally.

    Fedor doesn't need to be in the UFC to establish his greatness. He is already considered a legend, and that was before he beat Tim Silvia and Andre Arlovski.

    If Dana White truly wanted Fedor, he would have done everything to get him. Don't think that strikeforce will go away soon either - Fedor is gonna keep that alive.

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

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    I consider myself a hardcore MMA fan and I love technical fights, but it was so dull in one of the bouts that Joe Rogan was talking about a scrap that was going on in the crowd for a solid minute and he even acknowledged that what was going on between two of the fans was more entertaining than the actual fight taking place in the octagon.

    I didn't hear that comment, but i liked the fight.

    Watching kflo use gsp's strategy against the cage, bj penn's incredible take down defence, then watching penn's passing work, ground and pound, and also his submission technique, against another solid blackbelt jiujutsu of kflo... its pretty entertaining.

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted · Edited by dajusta

    GSP's fight was ridculous... as in LAME! I'm glad he won, but it was just take-down after take-down. That's why I stopped watching the UFC in the first place. Also Fedor would absolutely kill (submission by arm bar) Lesnar.. in the first round.

    Perhaps by the 3rd round and the fight is still going they should throw in weapons?

    Axes, bats, Katanas, chains, knives, throwing stars etc..

    4th round you can do a line of coke with your cornerman.

    5th round the lions are released!

    Obviously you don't understand the technical side of martial arts.

    GSP showed pure domination and amazing martial art skillz!

    Well said.

    GSP is pure domination.

    Really, I'm pretty sure the sport is in the ring/cage. The weigh ins are not actually part of the sport. They are requirements to fight in the sport.

    You have a point, but the weigh ins are still intriguing to fans.

    Fans always want to know stats and details for fights. Nothing's better than a 140 pound Gracie against a 220 pound gorilla..... and you know who comes out on top!

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted

    I agree that avoiding a takedown is critical to neutralizing Lesnar but sprawl like alves? GSP was successfully shooting at will

    True but you cannot compare lesnar with GSP.

    Thiago would force the sprawl first, unlike Mir, who would willingly force guard.

    It would take the world's best jujitsu to take down a 265lb lesnar, and frank mir doesn't have that.

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted

    Cain Velasquez could challenge Lesnar if he continues to win against top contenders and improve his jujitsu

    jujitsu won't work on lesnar. frank mir had the best jujitsu in his weight class and got destroyed.

    Valesquez needs to learn how to sprawl like thiago alves or the iceman.

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted

    Where is the realism? TUF? 30 behingd closed door unsactioned fights. That reeks of both realism and Honesty. Come on guys you're not serious. The Fertita family is best known for it's crime syndicate. This isn't idle talk. That is well documented.

    Here is a pretty good series on the Fertitas family and their endeavors including Some links to some other articles.

    http://unlimitedfightnews.com/wordpress/?p=2457

    If you think they are somehow on the up and up. Just give it a read. It's a good family history lesson.

    Where is the realism? UFC was nicknamed a bloodsport after UFC 1, where Gerrard Gordeau pretty much knocked the teeth out of Tuli's face with one kick.

    I don't know too much about the unsanctioned fights, but if there was any tampering with fights, people would definitely know.

    ***The UFC/MMA THREAD***

    in Off-Topic General

    Posted

    I am sure Dana has a preference as to who wins a fight, from a marketing and business perspective, but if he were to manipulate the outcomes, it would undermine the credibility of the UFC and MMA as a whole. I don't think he would want to risk that now that the UFC is so successful, look at the Kimbo Slice fiasco as an example of tampering gone bad.

    I agree 100%. Dana knows the marketing comes from realism. If he started to manipulate that, he is gonna risk the whole foundation of the UFC.

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