Weber's Playoff Beard
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They would have to be part of a BRT system.
If they're going to get bi-articulated buses for BRT, why don't they build LRT instead? LRT can run on electricity and its cars would have a longer life span.
It's really not worth the money if you compare the time it will take for a LRT train to go down Broadway compared to 99Bline. The times are quite similar.
If UBC is willing to contribute a substantial amount of funding, I don't think they'll be a problem having RRT all the way to UBC. RRT to UBC would definitely be built if Translink had unlimited funds. Even if they don't build all the way to UBC, it's still a step in the right direction in connecting and improving the transit network.
Nevertheless, biarticulated buses will never ever happen down Broadway unless all the lanes are designated for BUSES only, but that won't ever happen until the day Skytrain runs through every street in Vancouver or we are able to teleport... from say Surrey to UBC in the blink of an eye...
Everyone knows it's going to be RRT, just whether it's going to be a combo or all the way to UBC.
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How about get the councillors to learn to drive a biarticulated bus.. and then make them drive down Broadway during rush hour... or how about from an automobile driver's perspective. Have them trail a bi articulated bus during rush hour down Broadway. It'll be hell. Imagine if the bus changed lanes on the already cramped Broadway streets.
I'll tell you what's a long term solution Tim Louis, RRT under Broadway. Any combo involving RRT also works.
Frees up all those bline buses to serve other areas.
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Problem with best bus is it doesn't work long term. In 20 years, when even more people use the service, you'll be running buses every minute or more.
Also, if RRT is built, they won't be looking at doing anything to improve transit on Broadway. Whereas with best bus, they'll have to revisit this issue in the future and who knows how long that'll take?
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Do they not have enough trains? Couldn't they do...
VCC-Clark to Waterfront - Millennium Line to Waterfront
Waterfront to VCC-Clark - Millennium Line to VCC-Clark
VCC-Clark to Douglas College - Evergreen Line to Douglas College
Douglas College to VCC-Clark - Evergreen Line to VCC-Clark
Waterfront to King George - Expo Line to King George
King George to Waterfront - Expo Line to Waterfront
And for when the Millennium/Evergreen Line doubles between Lougheed Town Centre and VCC-Clark, announce trains as "Evergreen and Millennium Line train to VCC-Clark". Same goes for Expo and Millennium.
I'm sure some of the posters who post in this thread might be on this other forum that extensively covers infrastructure in Vancouver. They discussed this and it has to do with maximizing the time between trains. The forum that talks about this is probably googleable.. (if that's a word)
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Eklund:
We consider Hockeybuzz.com as a valid source, as Eklund has some credible writers on his site. These threads pop up every year, and they usually end in the same fashion.
I think people get confused by what "rumours" really are and what they aren't. Taking any rumour as being a 100% guarantee to happen is a mistake and I think where many people get confused. For the amount of talking that goes on between NHL clubs, I'd wager most doesn't materialize into anything.
So what's the point of having rumours posted here at all then, you might ask? It's something to start a legitimate conversation over, to speculate over and on occasion they may just happen. You just have to take it all in with a grain of salt.
It's simply not true. People in this thread have already posted that they don't mind it. People continue to post and view these threads on a consistent basis.
If he was truly a fraud, it's unlikely Sportsnet would have hired him, Darren Dreger would give him props for reporting something first, or any sports radio show would have him on as a guest. It's also unlikely that the other reporters at Hockeybuzz, such as Andy Strickland would be working with him.
I didn't change the meaning of what I quoted above, I just shortened it to the quoted parts that I'm replying to.
Since you guys insist on linking anything related to removing Eklund as a source to this thread, let's discuss Eklund. I think the first thing that needs to happen is to revise/edit the 2nd post in this thread, the outdated post by bieksa3- on why Eklund is still a credible source.
Does Eklund still have credible writers? How can a rumour filled blog by Eklund be "credible" when it's wrong 99% of the time. There's a difference between a "credible source" and a rumour. I personally wouldn't label someone who posts rumours 24/7 as a "source".
People like Darren Dreger no longer believe he is credible.
everyone on here is sick and tired of reading an intriguing title only to go into the thread and see the source as Eklund.Explanation needs to be improved. Saying some "people" don't mind it is like saying, "some people don't mind the Bloc Quebecois to win the election" It doesn't say much. It's not possible to conclude that the majority of people don't mind Eklund's sources. Just because people post and view the threads, doesn't make him credible. At the end of the day, the argument should be over whether he is a credible source or not. It shouldn't be about whether people like him or not, or the amount of views or popularity he has. We are arguing whether he is a credible "source". Posting rumours doesn't make someone "credible". He has made some correct trade predictions, but whether he is "credible" is up for debate.
The mods have all the power, but even though it may be repetitive, at least try to answer the questions instead of directing people to this thread without any explanation.
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Oh no! One of the four express lines to UBC only runs part of the day!
That's four more Bline type buses than the whole south of fraser. Even the heavily populated areas of Surrey/Langley where our only alternatives are a horrifically slow and rarely occuring set of milk run buses that could get me to work in an hour and a half on a good day or the driving (in ten foot increments for the last few kilometers) over the Port Mann or Alex Fraser, with the former soon to be a lot nicer to drive on but an extra 6 bucks a day (aka 180 a week) on top of the massive gas taxes we pay to subsidise the rest of the region.
There's no need for sarcasm.
I was responding to you who suggested that the express bus run all day. I didn't suggest that, you did.
Obviously we're never going to agree on how Translink should spend their money, but we can agree that Translink has lots of projects and improvements they could be doing if they had the funding. And I rather not start the "how we should fund Translink" debate again.
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Make the express bus line on 41st run every two minutes like the broadway bus and that will provide enough capacity. There isn't going to be much growth in Vancouver so why the need for massive growth?
And especially a bored tunnel line (which incidentily would still require massive cut and cover holes for all the stations aka all the major intersections anyways) which should only ever be considered if it's the only option due to grade or water crossings. Incidentily, one could easily build a skytrain down broadway ELEVATED LIKE THE REST OF THE GVRD and make it look quite nice by builiding it on two seperate gracial structures that would go in the parking lanes and really only take out spots where there was a pillar which would have minimal effects on the area. (And could be made to look very nice). Sure that would be more expensive that monolith concrete but would pale in costs to a bored tunnel (which will never EVER happen).
But before we do any of that how about we build some express buses following the Bline line standard down both Fraser and King George Highways as a start. Like start them next week.
The south of fraser residents should seriously just leave the GVRD since all we are is a cash cow for the more affluent north side of the river. Holly regressive tax system batman!
UBC does not need a skytrain. Or anything. People get to UBC just fine. If UBC wants more buses, they can pay with it from higher UPass rates.
Coquitlam does not need a line all the way to Douglas. Cutting off the last two stations would still provide a conection to West Coast Express and get people through the bottleneck at Port Moody. From there you could funnel off frequent bus service to a hub at Ioco north to Westwood Plateau and east to Coquitlam Centre and Douglas college. That would be more than good enough.
Mean while, the south of fraser residents, who will soon be forced to pay 6 bucks a day for tolls, or fight through the soon to be insane other crossings, and who pay far more in gas taxes since we're forced to use that much more, currently have NO REASONABLE alternatives.
I wish I could complain about how my subsidised pass and the woe's of getting passed up by the express bus. South of the fraser we pay top dollar for milk run buses, or get taxed to the teeth (with more on the way) to be stuck in congestion while our express buses are but unfufilled promises 7+ years overdue and counting!!!!!!!!
The 43 express bus doesn't even run all day...
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Peter Dinklage is so good in his role as Tyrion Lannister.. his acting is so captivating.
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The problem is that people don't know what routes to take.
People always assume the B-Line is WAY faster than any other route out there, so they flock to it.
A common one at UBC is to transfer to the Canada Line. Instead of taking the 99 to Cambie, try taking the 84 to Cambie and going from Olympic Village. There are numerous instances where multiple routes could be taken, but people just don't know about them.
Yep I agree. Similar to how the 480 runs down 41st Ave and turns at Granville, so in other words, someone could take that instead of waiting for a 41 or 49 bus. I understand what you're saying.
Problem is, all the bus routes are busy and I'm not here to argue whether or not something is considered "bline" or not. That doesn't matter. What matters is that we can the right infrastructure to move people around the city of Vancouver and its suburbs both efficiently and effectively.
I have no problem with expanding into Surrey, the problem is, you're suggesting we add even more buses to the 99Bline route. They're running every 2 minutes at peak times and the buses are still all full. Do you recommend they order more buses so they run every minute? UBC is an educational institution that will be there for years to come. The student population is getting bigger and bigger. The skytrain line will provide service to UBC for many many years. The buses can then be placed elsewhere, say Surrey... I'm pretty sure Translink has already planned for a skytrain to UBC by bored tunnel. There's just no funding and they need to go over the specifics.
Please don't ever suggest cut and cover near busy parts of the city ever again.
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C) Capacity to UBC could be addressed by adding to other bus routes. Aren't people taking that Bline down 41st to UBC? One would think all the Richmond studants would. That would releive a lot of the pressure.
There is no bline on 41st avenue. There's an express bus. Pass ups if departing from Joyce station start at Main Street. So people on Main Street don't get to get on half the time. 480 from Richmond is another route to UBC but it's a long trip. Every bus route is busy and that's expected, but the demand is there, but not enough buses. Why do you insist on expanding outwards when essential service can't even be maintained and the demand is definitely there.
If translink had enough funding, this shouldn't even be a problem. UBC, extension in Surrey, and whatever south of fraser stuff you want should be all built.
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I figure it'll have to be done in increments. First, it'll have to be built to Arbutus. Then hopefully, it'll put enough pressure to densify and build up Broadway west of there to justify the cost of a tunnel underneath it. We probably won't have the budget to build it all the way to UBC all at once anyways.
If they are extending the skytrain west, it'll be going all the way to UBC. That's the plan and that's what they are trying to budget for. That will be the terminus station and where many rush hour users will be arriving/departing from. They aren't going to be doing it in segments. The line is long overdue. Just take a 99 bus any time of the day and you'll understand.
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Leave earlier.
Problem solved.
That doesn't work for 99 bline.. it's always busy.
Leaving earlier doesn't help since people have have classes 30 mins earlier will be on those buses.
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It won't be done until after you have graduated. It's supposed to be built by 2020 (at least that was the promise few years ago) and construction won't begin until at least after the completion of the Evergreen Line in 2016.
As I posted a few pages back, TransLink is ordering 25 low-floor articulated buses to be delivered in 2013. They're starting a King George B-Line, so how many of these buses will actually end up on the #99 is anybody's guess. Though they could use 40 foot buses on that route initially.
TransLink wants bench seating at the back and the NovaBus doesn't offer that (at least not that I'm aware of), so it will most likely be the New Flyer Xcelsior.
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When is the UBC Line going be built. The 99 B-Line is ALWAYS full, doesn't really help when the buses are always late too.
You're not alone. During rush hour, the 99, 43, 41, 49, 25, 44, 84.. sometimes 33, 480 pretty much every bus that goes to UBC in the morning is full and late. But 99 is just ridiculous. 2 minutes between buses is still not enough. In order to move people on Broadway effeiciently, a UBC line is going to be built, no doubt about it, it's just when... 5 years? 10 years? 15 years?
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It's been a long time coming...
Still no timeline on the 91 B-Line on 41st or the 95 on Hastings?
I use the 41 a lot and I think it can wait. It's only in the morning and in the afternoon/evening when the 60 ft buses that come every 5-10 mins still aren't enough. The rest of the time, there's enough room on the 40 ft buses to sit.
I don't know about the sfu 135 enough to comment about it.
In regards to the Broadway skytrain extension, when do you think the project will break ground?
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Thanks Diane Watts... her decisions make sense, whereas Delta and Burnaby and Richmond.. WTF. You got your skytrain lines, now you don't want to fund other Translink projects... what a joke.
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about the buss tracker app, is the http://m.translink.ca the app? and how are you suppose get real time info if you dont have wifi????
How else do you get anything in "real time" without a wireless network connection?
You can't... I wish they had an offline version.
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Nothing says "Bus Stop" better than the words "Bus Stop" (unless you're an FOB who doesn't know a word of English).
Well they're trying to use the "T" as a symbol. People will know what is is. Symbols are everywhere. They make everything simpler. i.e. A railroad sign is easier than say a sign that literally says "Railroad". or a no smoking symbol. or a recycling symbol. We don't literally need a sign that has the words Bus Stop. IF people can relate a symbol to a bus stop, it leaves more space for other stuff to be put on the sign. Plus, right now, they are kind of ugly... a bigger "T" symbol means I can see a sign from 2 blocks away.
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Btw, don't light a match or use a lighter near a house after a big earthquake. Or your house may explode from natural gas collecting in your home.
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Eventually you just drive (no pun intended) all the vehicle users away, like our proffessor here. The city of Vancouver likes to trumpet proudly how they have greatly reduced car traffic in the downtown peninsula. And they are right. However, part of that is that people that used to commute to the downtown core now just commute to other suburbs as the jobs they go to eventually migrate out to them.
The other possibility is reduced economic activity.
But even in a place like downtown Manhatten or Hong Kong I doubt they get car traffic down THAT low, especially if you take into account the surrounding suburbs.
Mostly because people prefer to walk 5 blocks to a McDonalds in Manhatten instead of driving. Or in HK and most major cities in China, their public transit system covers a very large area. And getting a driver's license is much harder in HK and China... so a lot of people don't have their license.
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No one's attacking the students. Why wouldn't you want a free pass? Instead, they're questioning translink's decision to subsidize these passes when they're always complaining about not having enough money.
That summarizes the last few pages of this thread..
I ran out of points to argue about so let's talk about something else...
From wikipedia:
The SFU Community Trust has proposed extending the TransLink system from this station through the installation of a tri-cable gondola lift to travel up Burnaby Mountain to the SFU Transit Exchange. The proposed lift would use a 30 passenger Doppelmayr Garaventa 3S Gondola, the same model as theWhistler Blackcomb Peak 2 Peak Gondola. The Trust has proposed the gondola because it feels the system is not weather-dependent like the current buses, it is also cheaper to maintain, and is more environmentally friendly. The provincial government has commissioned a feasibility study for the proposal; if approved by the province and Translink, the lift could be operational by 2014.Good to hear!
From wikipedia:
On January 14, 2008, the BC government announced a commitment to the expansion of the Millennium Line to UBC by 2020 as part of a $14 billion transit spending package to address global warming. It was not initially clear exactly what route the new line would take, but it was hinted that there would be less use of cut-and-cover to minimize disruption to businesses along Broadway and avoid the same problems seen during the Canada Line construction along Cambie Street.I hear COV hired some people to plan out the route after they finished consultation with members of the public.
Oh and too bad Translink doesn't have money, otherwise they could've changed the 43 Express UBC bus to 91 Bline and the 135 SFU express to 95 bline a few years ago. Blines make things so much more efficient.. except if it's running on Broadway because that's way over capacity.
And the Compass cards. Can't wait to try them out.. but I'm more excited about them introducing a distance based system in the future. We can finally catch up to the rest of the world. This 90 min fare thing is terrible and just doesn't cut it.
The turnstiles, I'm not willing to start that argument again...
Can't wait. So exciting to see so many new things happening to our transit system!
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Well Translink wants increased use. With the Upass, they get increased usage by students. Like I said, increased use is a good thing. That's why Translink continues to fund it.
And you say well whether they fund it or not, people will still be taking transit to school. They may but they won't be taking transit when they go other places, say the mall, fitness centre, grocery store, library, etc. Translink wants students to use transit more often so that it can become a part of their lifestyle in the future. That's why Translink has no problem funding it.
Then you may ask, why not subsidize all people who are between 18-22 years old whether or not they are attending a post secondary institution. That is because it is less likely that these people would be using transit as often, as they aren't guaranteed to take min 10 trips per week. Which means less likely to buy a monthly pass, which means upass doesn't benefit them, so they don't bother subsidizing it. If they felt that it would benefit people ages 18-22 who don't go to school, they may even subsidize those that buy monthly passes.
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Roads 47 million.
Tranist 871 million.
Looks priddy pale to me.
Of course in my fantasy world I also have a funding plan. Translink needs to save money. Unneeded subsidies look like a good place to start.
Funding the upass program looks priddy pale to me.
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Why not then people that take transit will see how good they got it after complaining all the time about the wages of bus drivers and other transit users.
I take transit and I never complain about their wages...
It's people who don't use transit and don't want an increase in the gas tax that think Translink should pull funding from elsewhere.. like paying less to bus drivers.
The Official Transit Thread
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Posted · Edited by Weber's Playoff Beard
oh wait... The line not only serves Vancouver but connects people who transfer from the skytrain coming from Burnaby, Surrey, New West and Richmond, and soon Coquitlam and Port Moody.