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4 hours ago, Undrafted said:
Well, here's my simple question to you (and anyone else): why pigeonhole yourself as 'being on the left'? Why should anyone "pick a side"?
We, the general public, have been manipulated by the political parties to "pick a side", in the hopes of bolstering party loyalty and reinforcing authority, as opposed to actually being informed on issues and making decisions based on that (and it wasn't always that way). And for the most part, the general public has played along because it's EASIER than making informed decisions.
Currently, I find most political discourse, especially on the internet, to be as ludicrous (but less comical) than the "Left Twix vs. Right Twix" commercials.
Because that’s where my beliefs belong: paying more to help others less fortunate, investing in the future by spending on education, jobs training programs that take into account the new robotic/ai world soon to be replacing workers, arts and theater programs being funded and rewarded, looking at a universal benefit income, making sure no one gets left behind, protecting our environment, working to better people’s lives and an equal and just world that treats everyone the same. Those are not conservative ideals, those are progressive ideas. I want us to move forward together so that we all succeed in life.
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Key example of what I was talking about. The whole thread is worth reading, but here’s the most important snippets. This is possible on every issue, but it requires both sides to listen and engage respectfully.
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I’m firmly on the left because the issues I support align with their ideas. I have studied the issues and while not perfect most of the time the left has the better solution. I think the biggest problem is the echo chamber that tells you what the other side believes. Go ahead and ask me what I support as a progressive (no I don’t support banning all guns, no I don’t like abortions, no I don’t support spending money we don’t have unless the return on the investment is justifiable, no I don’t think the left is perfect, no I don’t think fossil fuel production should be shut down immediately, no I don’t agree with open borders as a few positions that the right says the left supports).
But most would rather be told what the other side believes rather then asking (no I don’t believe all conservatives are evil or racist as an example). The biggest issue is this. We’re taught to hate another person because of their views and thanks to the tribalism of putting your team winning over doing the right thing for all people we don’t ask the simplest of questions like: what do you believe?
I’ve found common ground with pro-gun absolutionists, anti-abortion stalwarts and anti-government types. There is ground where we can agree, but it has to be a WANTED solution and both sides have to be willing to engage respectfully, earnestly and honestly, which quite frankly is very rare. Most prefer to hurl insults, assumptions, deflections, whataboutisms and basically every excuse in the book to avoid it (I’m not unguilty of this either).
I agree people need to get some tougher skin, but here’s the thing for either side: if someone tells you they’re offended believe them and apologize. Why is it so hard for people to admit wrongdoing? Criticism should also be welcomed. How is anyone ever to learn without making mistakes? The whole thing has changed to “I’m right, you’re wrong and nothing you say can change my mind” rather then explaining “these are the facts that support why I believe this”. Why not be open minded that you could in fact be wrong?
I support equality and caring for one another. If that makes me a SJW, libtard, snowflake or whatever pejorative people come up with so be it. Being a decent person is now a problem with some apparently *shrugs*
EDIT: Forgot to mention another big problem. Hating the other side so much that you are willing to ignore facts/data/research/science in order to create an opinion opposite to what the people you hate believe. Now we have basic tenets of society breaking down because of this. “Breaking the law is bad”, “education is good”, “facts matter”, “science matters”, “being compassionate for others is good”, “racist remarks are bad”, I could go on, but you get the idea. Because of this hatred ideas of our society once mostly agreed upon are not in an effort to distinguish themselves from the other side they hate regardless of the factuality and merit behind said position.
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6 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said:
The acquisitions of Goldobin/Dahlen/Lind/Pettersson/Gadjovich definitely have put many of those worries to rest.
If we're in a position to draft a defenseman we want next year then that should be the priority. If not another forward drafted high in the first round wouldn't hurt. I am talking Horvat+ level.
We will see though. We could end up lucking out and having one of our fwd prospects we don't expect to be an impact player to turn into something special.
It ultimately depends on the circumstances we face this time next year and how our prospects develop.
I really hope we somehow manage to win the lottery and pick Dahlin and then trade Tanev to a desperate trade deadline team for a top 10 first to pick a top-end winger or another D. This of course assumes Tanev stays healthy and continues his stellar play, but if Benning manages to swing this his silver pedestal I have him on will turn permanently platinum. 2018 has a ton of top tier talent in it and I hope we try to get another first. Rebuild is basically complete at that point and the players just need time. We'd have a 1A, 1B, 2nd and 3rd line in terms of talent/scoring. This lineup of course assumes no trades are made, no free agents signed and no players surprise so it likely won't look like this, but man I get excited thinking about our team looking something like this in only a few years.
Dahlen-Pettersson-Virtanen
Baertschi/top 6 LW-Horvat-Boeser
Goldobin-Granlund-Gadjovich
Palmu-Gaudette-Lockwood
Juolevi-Top 2 D
Hutton-Gudbranson
Brisebois-Stecher
Holm
Demko
Markstrom/DiPietro
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2 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:
Probably it's been mentioned a few times already but I love the fact that Palmu becomes the final piece from the Hansen trade.
That conditional 4th (Sharks #112) was the pick we traded to Chicago for #135 and #181.
Effectively, we traded Hansen for Goldobin, Gunnarsson, and Palmu.
No one has, so thank you for pointing it out. Man those Benning trades ended up gems for us on paper (we will see where they end up eventually). I've got to say this pick has grown on me as I've thought more about it and done more research into him. I was being a little bit "heightist" and didn't think much of him before, but I'm all on board now. He could be the steal of the draft in the 6th round. Having a 1 in 4 shot that far back once again shows Benning's master drafting skills.
P.S. Did you see those arms on this kid? Damn those are some pipes. Looked like the size of Gadjovich's head in that picture. If he's built like that everywhere we've got a stud.
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12 hours ago, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said:
He and LD are going to command a lot of cash. The 6x6 isn't going to work when they are clearly way better than RNH, Eberle and Hall. Cap is going to become a big issue in Edmonton. Serves them right for wasting so many 1OA picks.
I'm not sure who it was on here, but someone said Mcjesus is asking $14m per year on a long term contract, I don't think Edmonton has the leverage to say no. If they end up paying that amount or anything close they're completely screwed when it comes to the cap and the quality of the rest of the team. When one guy takes up 20% of your cap it's almost impossible to afford quality up and down the lineup. If these rumors are true Edmonton is screwed both now and in the future.
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Man reading through this thread was painful. We had 5 pages of talking about Elias Pettersson, 25 pages of bickering over Virtanen/Nylander, Juolevi/Tkachuk and 3 pages of the usual suspects having a total meltdown over Benning murdering their families (well, not really, but with how they go on and on about how awful he is you'd think he'd murdered their families or something). Typical CDC.
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7 hours ago, N7Nucks said:
I preferred the Medicine Hat vibes we had going.
Please tell me that was sarcasm.
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1 minute ago, YummyCakeFace said:
Ya. Soft.
Gadjovich is "soft"?
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4 hours ago, diesel_3 said:
The Canucks have nailed the draft so far, there really is no argument against it.
Addressing needs while taking BPA in specific positions. A lot of hard working players with some flash...Culture is hopefully changing by bringing in some of the tenacious new blood!
They must've been serious about revamping the scouting department. None of these picks today look like a Delorme.
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4 hours ago, SabreFan1 said:
It's a tad early for whiskey!!
It's never too early for whiskey.
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Just now, numb3r 16 said:
nucks need to send 33rd and 63rd overall to the penguins for 31st overall and snag kostin or tolvanen
A 3rd rounder for 2 spots? No.
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Just now, Creepy Crawler said:
Does Kokanee go good with a shower?
Not going to lie I'm a craft beer drinker, but in a pinch anything will do.
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Just now, Darius71 said:
were gonna get a good player at 33!
Just now, cripplereh said:well we might still get a decent player at 33 :D
Literally seconds apart. CDC going to CDC.
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1 minute ago, ReggieBush said:
I forgot how much I hate that song
Every time I hear it it brings back the nightmare of 2011.
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Just now, canucklehead80 said:
If somehow the hockey gods were to let Tolvanen drop to 33 and make Jim draft him, then somehow JB will have ended up with 2 top 10 talents (skill wise) without trading Tanev. Granted they both have question marks and things to work on. The potential of adding that much high end potential to the pipeline is getting me a little excited. May need a cold shower to calm down, or a nice drink
Drink in the shower. It's awesome.
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1 minute ago, DownUndaCanuck said:
Based on that trade we probably could throw away a 3rd round pick to move one of our 2nds into the first round. Not worth it though, there's not much difference between players anymore.
If it's the 55th and a 3rd rounder to get a first rounder I do that in a heartbeat.
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I'm not upset with the pick, I'm upset we didn't trade down and add an asset as well as getting Pettersson, but I trust Benning and I guess the deal wasn't there. I hope Elias becomes a stud for us.
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25 minutes ago, Zhukini said:
That's being generous
I tend to be an optimist.
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11 minutes ago, Sugar baby watermelon said:
possibility of moving up??
Zero.
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To those who have watched the draft before: Is it worth tuning in for? Or is it better to just get the results? The ED was terrible and I don't want to sit through that if I could be doing other things.
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1 minute ago, Camel Toe Drag said:
There has basically no talk of Vilardi by Benning my friend. He's made it pretty apparent who he likes.
He mentioned Glass, Petterson and Vilardi as players he likes. He's in the running, but if Glass is available Benning will pick him. He's a character kind of guy that Benning loves and given what we know: Glass only visiting Vancouver, Benning mentioning Glass first on the list of players he likes, the rumor of Glass and Petterson getting flown to Vancouver for a 2nd interview makes it fairly obvious who he wants. Will he be available is the real question.
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32 minutes ago, Screw said:It is not so much the inability to find superstars that saddens me. Every team can claim that struggle. It is the knack for completely whiffing while at the plate. The wasted first round picks that turn into AHL fodder at best or nothing at all.
Thanks to Benning we've flipped the table. AHL fodder McCann and Shinkaruk (at least so far) got us Gudbranson and Granlund. It's nice to be on the winning end of trades for a change.
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14 minutes ago, Diamonds said:
Why are there a lot of people who think Liljegren is high on JB's list? We were one of 3 teams who reportedly didn't interview him at the draft combine. Doesn't exactly scream high interest to me.
Because group thinking parroting what others say is far easier then looking into the context and figuring out what makes the most sense. This can be applied to any subject as well. My money is on either Makar or Glass depending on what COL/DAL do with their picks.
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Has the Western World Lost Moderate/Centrist Politics?
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Very true. I wish those days were still here, but alas they are a time forgotten.