[Tyler Madden | C]

Well, Madden, it was nice having you here. We hardly got to know ya, good luck in LA.

[[GDT] Golden Knights @ Canucks Dec 19 2019 - 7pm - SNET]

GUYS, IT'S HAPPENING

 

NO

NO

NOOOOO

[[GDT] Golden Knights @ Canucks Dec 19 2019 - 7pm - SNET]

GOD DAMMIT

[[GDT] Nucks @ Preds 11/21/2019 5pm Pacific - Watch live on SNP]

2 hours ago, canuck2288 said:

Forget the Preds JB

 

fire Green and hire Babs ASAP 

 

we can get him for cheap 

If you thought Willie had a doghouse, wait till you get a load of Babs.

[[GDT/PGT] Canucks Vs Oilers | 7pm]

TIC TAC TOE

 

IT'S THE SUTTER SHOW

[[Report] Eriksson “NOT” likely to be moved on]

2 minutes ago, sonoman said:

“Nobody sits on the bench for playing too good.”  Absolutely describes Louie Eriksson’s play for the last 3 years

 

Willie would like to have a word with you

[[Signing] Canucks sign Oscar Fantenberg]

OSCAR FATENBERG?

 

Golly, it's like a Fatensy come true 

[[Signing] Jordie Benn signs with Canucks]

Kypers spilled the beans on SN, so it is at least confirmed. No term yet though.

[Putting the Miller trade in context: What is Horvat worth?]

Hello everyone,

 

When I was watching the second round of this year's draft, I was pleasantly surprised to hear that Vancouver had made a trade, more so when I heard a conditional first rounder pick was involved. I thought to myself, it looks like Barrie's coming home, but was shocked when it was announced that the trade was with the Tampa Bay Lightning, and then livid that it was JT Miller as the return. Time has passed since then and I've given some time to let the trade stew in my heart and, to be honest, I really do think it's a fair trade.

 

Queue in the title. Would you trade Bo Horvat for a depth goaltender, a third round draft pick and a first rounder?

 

I make this comparison because there are a a bunch of similarities between the two players. 

Here are Horvat's stats compared to Miller's stats (retrieved from Hockeydb)

 

And here are their contracts, again, compared to one another (retrieved from Capfriendly).

 

Now let's begin with the comparisons. Both players have surpassed the fifty point mark in their careers, Bo doing twice (52 pts, 2016-2017; 61 pts 2018-2019) and Miller also doing it twice (56 pts, 2016-2017; 58 pts, 2017-2018). From what I have gathered, both players are considered to be good in both ends of the ice and both players kill penalties. Their contracts are actually surprising fair and similar (especially when you consider that the 27 year old Hayes was paid 7million for 7 years while only hitting above 50pts just once), with both of them being signed until 2022-2023. With the way this market is going and the fact that these two players can still trend upward in a Vancouver team that will no doubt lean on them heavily for the coming years, these contracts are an absolute bargain. 

 

While Horvat is 2 years younger, and the presumably the future captain of this franchise, it is hard not to equate him to Miller on a player to player basis. Yet how many of us would trade away Horvat for the return that Miller had retrieved? It's an interesting thought experiment because I, and many of my fellow posters here, would consider Horvat to be an untouchable, yet the general consensus here seems to be the trade for Miller was an outright overpayment. I know, I know, context matters. The Lightning were in serious cap trouble, and we seemingly gifted them a way out when they should have been forced to pay more or to demand less. No one has qualms with trading away Mazaenc, nor the third round draft pick this year. Everyone seems to gawk, to stand in awe of the conditional first rounder we surrendered to Tampa.

 

But context matters.

 

We have been basement dwellers for 4 seasons in a row, netting top 10 draft picks for 5 out of 6 seasons. How long are we going to remain terrible given that the talent we have drafted continues to develop? Is it fair to think that the likes of Hughes, Boeser, Horvat, Petterson, Juolevi, Demko, Lind, Gadjovich, Woo, Virtanen, Gaudette and some under the radar prospects cannot push us out of the lower echelon of NHL teams? We have grade A talent and these players are about to come into their own very soon, so we can only expect that this team gradually gets better. Gone are the likes of old core and the core supplemental players. The new generation of players start now. We may very well may miss the playoffs next season, but the first we gave up is lottery protected. 2 years from now, Pettersson will have gained another year of development to elevate his play, Hughes will have found his way in the big leagues, Demko will hopefully secure his reign in the net and we could potentially have Podkolzin join this team. All the while the core ages another year, reaching ever so closer to their physical prime of their mid twenties. This will be a good team in 2 years, and I do not think that conditional first will be picking in the top 10.

 

Anyways, that's all I had to say on my little soap box. Let me know what you think.

[Jonathan Dahlén | C/LW]

3 minutes ago, Glug Datt said:

sources? or speculation?

I'm pretty sure the guy has the 80's oilers with the oilers of the last 10 years 

[Jett Woo | D]

19 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said:

Jett has the same sort of stiff upright playing style as Bieksa, he has the same unflappable overall look as Bieksa....he hits like Bieksa....

 

Jett even takes DoG penalties by firing the puck over the glass like Bieksa....BUT....he has to learn how to do the Bieksa "Smirk" after taking a penalty...once he can do that then he will truly be KB2...

KB2, the newer, more improved version of KB3

[Quinn Hughes | #43 | D]

6 hours ago, Chicken. said:

Haha I swear i have seen multiple people make that 'mistake' on these boards - so much so I thought I was missing some sort of inside joke about calling him Tony

It is a joke of some sorts. I forget if it was during an interview, or while naming the stars of the game, but his name was misspelled as Tony. Sort of like Schenider's first career hat trick kind of gimmick.

[Jett Woo | D]

9 hours ago, rizzuto&hatoum said:

A bit off topic but some Canucks connections - 

 

I was going through IMDB re the Goon movies and of course there's Larry Woo, Jett's dad, who was in both movies.

 

In Goon 2, I see Brandon Prust and MDZ had small roles.

 

But how's this for Canucks trivia - former Canucks no 1 pick in 1977 Jere Gillis plays 'Quebec #1' in the first movie. IIRC, after Gillis finished his career, he became a stuntman and has a load of credits on IMDB.

I KNEW THAT I HAD SEEN JETT'S DAD SOMEWHERE. HE WAS THE PRE-MED HOCKEY PLAYER, PARK KIM.

 

Man, what are the odds that I see him again in this context lol.

[Tyler Madden | C]

 

Drafted in the 3rd round, 68th overall.

 

At 5'11" and 150 pounds, "John" Madden joins the Canucks family. He is committed to Northeastern University, where fellow Canuck, Gaudette, went to. 

 

 

23 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

From Kevin Wickersham, Dobber Prospects:

He’s blazing fast on skates and moves with amazing agility, versatility and explosiveness. He has a great mind for the game, at which he excels both on offence and defence, and really takes charge of matters when he’s out there. A true leader at age 18

 

Madden is also an ‘intangibles’ darling – known for his leadership qualities, willingness to do whatever it takes and laying it all out there. He also isn’t afraid to mix it up and get to the front of the net.

 

 

 

23 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said:

USHL Update – Tyler Madden

by Kevin Wickersham on February 16, 2018

• Feature Story
• USHL Update – Tyler Madden

 

As we hit the two-thirds mark for the USHL campaign, with teams clustered around the 40-game point in a 60-contest regular schedule, one prospect in particular has raced up the rankings.

While the league’s generally most highly regarded and publicized this year (Oliver Wahlstrom, Bode Wilde and Joel Farabee) play for the US National Team Development Program, Tri-City center Tyler Madden who began the year largely off the radar has gained momentum as the NHL Entry Draft grows nearer.

Best known as  son of respected NHL veteran, winner of three Stanley Cups, and current Cleveland Monster Head Coach John Madden, Tyler is cutting his teeth effectively in post-high school hockey having spilt time with the Storm and Central Illinois Flying Aces as a rookie. He’s blazing fast on skates and moves with amazing agility, versatility and explosiveness. He has a great mind for the game, at which he excels both on offense and defense, and really takes charge of matters when he’s out there. A true leader at age 18.

While he could stand to add a bit of bulk at this point, his 5-10 frame weighing in at 152 pounds, Madden’s play stands out as his recent MVP recognition for the East squad during the USHL/NHL Top Prospects game demonstrated. His two goals were highlights for the game-winners. Madden also put on a show for the silver-winning Team US club during December’s World Junior A Challenge with three goals and an assist in four games.

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[Jett Woo | D]

Drafted in the 2nd round, 37th overall.

 

Young kid who has the size and some room to grow. Clocking in at a healthy 201 pounds, I'm excited to welcome Jett to the Nucks!

 

Loved this kid in the pre-draft interviews. Fun fact: His Chinese name means Leader on top of the hill , or something along those lines. Correct me if I'm mistaken on that.

 

 

 

42 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

 

 

20 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said:

 

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVswJjO5ULI

 

I think Sid summed the kid up pretty well: 

 

27 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Jett Woo is a very solid two-way RHD with elite skating and some real bite to his game. Plus he’s built like a tank and hits like one. Should fit in very well with our young defensive group alongside LHDs like Hughes, Juolevi, and Rathbone.

 

Offensive numbers maybe a little soft (compared to most projections following his impressive D-1) but I’d expect those scoring stats to jump next season. This past year he missed a month with a shoulder injury, and then saw the offensive roles dry up a bit when he returned to the lineup (due to returning players and acquisitions like Kale Clague). 

 

Jett Woo is a solid pick and one of the best names in the draft. 

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[Quinn Hughes | #43 | D]

The kid looked gutted after Detroit passed on him. Glad we got him though! Welcome to Vancouver, Hughes~

[Michael DiPietro | G]

22 hours ago, tas said:

lack isn't and will never again be an nhl player. 

Glad we got that out of the way. Now how about that DiPietro kid, do we have a thread about him yet?

[Petrus Palmu | RW/LW]

2 hours ago, aGENT said:

'Chaput's' can be signed. We've already 'got' him though and he's performed well. Always good to have a solid vet C, even 'just' in Utica.

 

We need bodies, especially in Utica. I can't tell you how annoyed Comets fans get when the yearly parade of Canucks' injuries start and Utica is just stripped of depth. The amount of PTO's they have to sign is ridiculous. It's hard to develop prospects when they're given a sub-par to work with, more so when that mediocrity deprives them of a playoff spot.

[Kole Lind | RW]

2 hours ago, Hugor Hill said:

This dude is like 148 pounds.

Imagine Pettersen and Tolvanen as back to back draft picks, CDC would have lost its mind.

[Burrows? Do We Really Need Him?]

I don't know if this fits anywhere else, but this just goes to show that Burr had an impact outside of the Canucks organization.

 

http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/news/news-singleview/?tx_ttnews[tt_news]=12001&cHash=c97abfa88c78dcfbdf9bca22fa1eeee7

[Elias Pettersson | #40 | C]

Don't think this has been posted yet.

 

https://www.nhl.com/news/elias-pettersson-joins-friend-from-home-on-canucks/c-290293948

 

Pettersson joins 'best friend from home' on Canucks

Center, selected No. 5 in 2017 Draft, excited to be in organization with fellow Swede Jonathan Dahlen

by Kevin Woodley / NHL.com Correspondent

 July 18th, 2017

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VANCOUVER -- Things turned out pretty well the last time the Vancouver Canucks used a high draft pick on a Swedish center who had chemistry with a linemate already in the organization.

Not that anyone is comparing Elias Pettersson to Henrik Sedin, who won an Art Ross Trophy and Hart Trophy and became the leading scorer in Canucks history since being selected No. 3 in the 1999 NHL Draft, one spot behind twin brother Daniel Sedin.

But having Swedish linemate Jonathan Dahlen in the Vancouver organization figures to make life a lot easier for Pettersson, who was the No. 5 pick at the 2017 NHL Draft.

"He's my best friend from home," Pettersson said of Dahlen, who was acquired in a trade with the Ottawa Senators for forward Alexandre Burrows on Feb. 27, "and to be on the same team in Sweden and get drafted by Vancouver and be in the same NHL organization is very cool."

Playing with Dahlen for Timra IK in Allsvenskan, the second-highest level of professional hockey in Sweden, Pettersson had 41 points (19 goals, 22 assists) in 43 games, and Dahlen, who was picked in the second round (No. 42) by the Senators in the 2016 NHL Draft, had 44 points (25 goals, 19 assists) in 45 games, mostly finishing plays Pettersson started.

"I am more of a passer, he is more of a goal-scorer," Pettersson, 18, said. "First time we played together was when he moved from HV71 to Timra three years ago and we started to play together directly and we found the chemistry directly and since that [time] the chemistry has become better and better. We think the same on the ice, we know where the other player is."

 

 

 

Canucks draft F Pettersson No. 5

 

• 01:56 • June 23rd, 2017

Vancouver president of hockey operations Trevor Linden downplayed the role Dahlen had in drafting Pettersson, but it didn't take long to see the chemistry when they combined for the first goal at development camp.

"We really look at them as separate players," Linden said. "The fact they did play together is nice. Will they be linemates in a couple years? Who knows, maybe. They certainly would complement one another. Elias has great vision and can distribute the puck. Jonathan is a guy who likes to get to the hard areas, so there's a potential that could be a fit in the future."

Pettersson's immediate future includes playing for Vaxjo in the Swedish Hockey League (SHL) this season and adding muscle, even though his size (6-foot-2, 161 pounds) was not a problem playing against men last season, Dahlen said.

"I remember the first game he played when he came up to the U-20s from the U-18s, there were already concerns he was too small," Dahlen said. "But he's just taken every step easily even though he was smaller than everyone else."

Pettersson said being smaller made him better by forcing him to learn how to use his body to protect the puck. Whether he gets to take his next step with Dahlen remains to be seen. Dahlen turns 20 on Dec. 20, making him old enough to play in the American Hockey League this season, but he has a contract option to play in the SHL if he doesn't make the Canucks. Either way, Pettersson and Dahlen have talked about eventually playing together in Vancouver.

"Not like serious talk about the future, but little fun talk to imagine how it could be," Pettersson said. "We were both very excited we could be in the same organization in the NHL."

 

[Petrus Palmu | RW/LW]

17 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said:

...so in the same article Palmu is listed at 179 Lbs and 5'7'' and then later at 165 Lbs. and 5'6".....that's a big difference...which is it?

He was listed at 5'6" 165 lbs in 2015.

[Petrus Palmu | RW/LW]

1 hour ago, rizzuto&hatoum said:

Not the smallest player drafted by the Canucks.

Anyone remember Bobby Lalonde?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=2921

Haha, can't say I was born just quite yet to watch the guy play.

[Matt Brassard | D]

Scouting: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=268659

 

Vancouver's 7th round pick. 18 year old D-man playing for Oshawa this year. 6'2" and 201 pounds.

 

 

[Petrus Palmu | RW/LW]

RW/LW   |  5'7"   |   179 lbs
 

Shoots | Left

Born | 1998-05-05

Draft | 2017 Round 6 #181 Overall by Vancouver Canucks

Canucks 6th round draft pick, and possibly one of the smallest players we've ever drafted. Kid's 5'7", a winger, and weighs in at 179 pounds. A Fin who played in the OHL and put up stellar numbers.

 

As of the 2017-2018 season, Petrus Palmu was chosen as the Liiga rookie of the year! Congrats to Palmers, I've heard he's Utica bound next season but no real source as of yet.