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The Loser Point Has Got To Go


Mozy

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<img src="http://cdn.nhl.com/canucks/images/upload/2009/11/nov1709_chbsmall_smallt.jpg" class="imageFloatLeftFramed">When looking at the standings this season thus far, there's one thing that's become overwhelming and that's the fact that more teams are finding a way to force overtime and get an extra point out of a loss. When you look at the current standings the Canucks sit in 11th and every single team ahead of them has benefited from the extra point awarded to a team that makes it to overtime. In fact the Canucks are the only team in the Western Conference without a loser point, and the only other team in the league that doesn't have a loser point is the Penguins.

When you look at the standings in the West right now they are as follows:

SJS - 19-6-4 -- 42 points

CHI - 17-6-3 -- 37 points

CGY - 17-6-3 -- 37 points

COL - 15-8-5 -- 35 points

LAK - 16-10-2 -- 35 points

NSH - 15-10-1 -- 31 points

PHX - 15-11-1 -- 31 points

CBJ - 13-9-5 -- 31 points

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DAL - 12-8-7 -- 31 points

DET - 13-9-4 -- 30 points

VAN - 14-12-0 -- 28 points

STL - 10-10-5 -- 25 points

ANA - 10-12-4 -- 24 points

EDM - 10-13-4 -- 24 points

MIN - 10-12-3 -- 23 points

In the East:

WSH - 16-5-6 -- 38 points

PIT - 19-9-0 --38 points

BUF - 15-7-2 -- 32 points

NJD - 17-6-1 -- 35 points

ATL - 14-7-3 -- 31 points

BOS - 13-8-5 -- 31 points

OTT - 13-8-4 -- 30 points

TBL - 10-7-8 -- 28 points

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PHI - 13-10-1 -- 28 points

NYR - 13-13-1 -- 27 points

NYI - 10-10-7 -- 27 points

MON - 12-13-2 -- 26 points

FLA - 10-12-4 -- 24 points

TOR - 7-12-7 -- 21 points

CAR - 5-17-5 -- 15 points

Now take a look at the East and West after you take away that loser point:

SJS - 19-10 -- 38 points

CHI - 17-9 -- 34 points

CGY - 17-9 -- 34 points

LAK - 16-12 -- 33 points

NSH - 15-11 -- 30 points

PHX - 15-12 -- 30 points

COL - 15-13 -- 30 points

VAN - 14-12 -- 28 points

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CBJ - 13-14 -- 26 points

DAL - 12-15 -- 24 points

DET - 13-13 -- 26 points

MIN - 10-15 -- 20 points

STL - 10-15 -- 20 points

ANA - 10-16 -- 20 points

EDM - 10-17 -- 20 points

East:

PIT - 19-9 --38 points

WSH - 16-11 -- 32 points

BUF - 15-9 -- 30 points

NJD - 17-7 -- 34 points

ATL - 14-10 -- 28 points

PHI - 13-11 -- 27 points

NYR - 13-14 -- 26 points

BOS - 13-13 -- 26 points

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OTT - 13-12 -- 26 points

MON - 12-15 -- 24 points

TBL - 10-15 -- 20 points

NYI - 10-17 -- 20 points

FLA - 10-16 -- 20 points

TOR - 7-19 -- 14 points

CAR - 5-22 -- 10 points

As you can see this changes the playoff implications considerably. Teams like Tampa Bay who have benefited from 8 extra points despite losing the games aren't even in the playoff picture when you recrunch the numbers. In the West it means the difference between the Canucks making a playoff spot and sitting in 11th in the West. You can argue that while the bottom end of the standings change the most that they don't matter, however the bottom end of the standings effect the draft and how teams order in picking players. In certain cases there might be case for argument that it means the difference between home ice advantage come the playoffs, or even the difference between top of the division or not.

You can argue that this is the observation of a fan bitter about his team not being in the playoffs, but at this point it's too early in the season to worry about rankings like in this fashion. It's been overwhelming to see how many teams are taking it to OT and stealing a point night in and night out despite a losing effort. Too many teams sit on a tie game and force OT just to walk away with one point.

Last season on average every team was the fortunate recipient of 9 OT points, the numbers being skewed by the likes of Tampa Bay who benefited from 18 "loser points" and still came 14th in the East. Last year teams averaged 9 loser points (OTLs) last year, (the Canucks had 10) and this year already more than half the league have at least 4 OTL points and we're about a quarter through the season. That means teams are on pace to get about 16 points this season from games they've lost. 16 points is the difference between a lot of things: home ice, playoffs, division title etc.

If the loser point is something that is so instrumental to the league and they can't remove it then they need to do something to change the point structure because the rate at which teams are accumulating loser points is trivializing the value of a 2-point win. The only thing I've come up with is a solution preached before which is 3 points for a regulation win, 2 points for an OT win, and 1 point for an OT loss.

<img src="http://cdn.nhl.com/canucks/images/upload/2009/11/nov1709_mozy_small.jpg" class="imageFloatLeftFramed">Richard Loat writes for Canucks Hockey Blog and is a fan of the underdog – first Bryan Allen, then Alex Burrows, and now Jannik Hansen. His passion for the Canucks led to the Canucks Hockey Blog and a lot of #Canucks tweets on his Twitter account.

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I agree with the last line of your blog. Don't get rid of the 'loser point', instead they should devalue an OT/SO win, so go with the 3-2-1 format. 3 for a regulation win, 2 for an OT/SO win, and 1 for an OT/SO loss. There would be more incentive for teams to press hard to win games in regulation. Too many teams sit back and wait for OT so that if they lose, at least they get the loser point.

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I think they should get rid of points all together and go to just a win loss like they do in baseball and basketball.

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they will never get rid of the loser point because right now 26 out of 30 teams have 'winning records' and they think that will get more fans to buy tickets and merchandise.

I think they should just give everyone 2 points per game and have a 30 way tie for the presidents trophy tongue.gif

But lets imagine a world where finances dont count, I think we should win and lose and tie.

win in regulation then 4 on 4 or 3 on 3

if its not decided after that , then both teams get a tie.

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" but at this point it's too early in the season to worry about rankings like in this fashion."

Doesn't this make the first half of your article completely irrelevant?

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" but at this point it's too early in the season to worry about rankings like in this fashion."

Doesn't this make the first half of your article completely irrelevant?

Food for thought buddy.

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Mozy,

Can you please post what would be league standings with the 3-2-1 format?

I think it is the best idea based on the way the game is currently played, however it would be nice to see the actual standings based on that format.

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Mozy,

Can you please post what would be league standings with the 3-2-1 format?

I think it is the best idea based on the way the game is currently played, however it would be nice to see the actual standings based on that format.

It'll be hard to go back and check every team and if their wins came in reg or not.

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