canucks155
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Fatboy ritchie's going to have a longer career than virtanen. Quote me on that
Doubt it considering he's battled w injuries, weight issues like u mentioned and inconsistency. Jake's going to be better than him as well.
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NO!
care to elaborate y not?
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And he's not a total chunk like fatboy Ritchie.
You're going to get RIPPED by ppl for saying that lol. I agree w/ your comment tho.
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He seems to have that douchey quality
I just lost it at that, lol
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Balance is overrated, if we had a dozen Keslers, we would dominate.
That would be awful. Diving all over the place and multiple injuries. I'd rather have the Sedins and others.
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If you want to talk about stats, Sestito's 42 goals in 60 games say hi
Except Sestito can't skate for s***. He was drafted in the 3rd round and wasn't as hyped as Virtanen. Virtanen can do it all, including ripping it up.
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Virtanen is "basically a better Kassian" is a pretty silly claim.
Different players. Quite different.
So is yours of saying we could use 2 Kassians; w/ Ritchie I'm assuming.
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David booth also has the physical tools like virtanen but if you can't see the ice, you will only go so far
You can't seriously be comparing Booth to Virtanen...
Also, 45 goals in 71 games says other wise.
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These comparisons are terrible.
Thanks.
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He is not worthy of a 6th overall pick.
He has a low level of hockey-IQ, not NHL (or let alone a high-level) calibre at any degree.
GREAT player, I love Virtanen, but I would only draft a finisher of his level at a pick of 9 - 15.
Nick Ritchie is NOT Zack Kassian.
Ritchie started out as a playmaker, working on his size and speed, and then as he grew in size, he learned to pick corners with more shots that he would take at the net. He learned that shooting with accuracy is just as important as feeding the puck to players like MacKinnon and Drouin at the U18s. When he reached the OHL level, they directed him to play a gritty, Milan Lucic-style PWF game. He is big, mean, dominant, and undeniably skilled. Not that Kassian isn't, but Kassian was never considered to have top-5 skill.
If Ritchie had been healthy for the entirety of his junior and youth league career, he would be the top prospect in this year's draft. Concussion issues, and that shoulder injury bug have bogged him down in the rankings as an injury prone player with a high-risk, ENORMOUS-reward factor.
I'm talking about in terms of size and style of play. While Ritchie is, as u noted, more gifted offensively, they're largely the same TYPE of player. I remember reading somewhere that Ritchie struggles w/ inconsistency and weight issues along w/ a prior history of injuries. I think there's too many question marks in his game for HIM to be worthy of the 6th pick. Not saying he's a bad aplyer but if I had to pick one bust out of the top 10, it would be him.
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Kassian's vision is miles ahead
Virtanen's shot and speed are miles ahead.
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You must be the life of the party...
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It was an analogy. I didn't even argue against the bolded.
You said, "A top ten pick will have a much higher ceiling than 20<." I thought u said Virtanen wasn't a top ten pick. My bad.
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yeah, not really.
Only thing Kass has over him is his size. Virtanen is the more all around player.
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We could certainly use two Kassians... or another Swedish center.
Or a beast in Virtanen who's basically a better Kassian.
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Hahaha Nylander to Schroeder.
I know it's ridiculous but they play a SIMLIAR SYLE GAME. Not talking about talent. Nylander>>>>> Schroeder. Pretty obvious.
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But that still isn't a good arguement for drafting Virtanen. A top ten pick will have a much higher ceiling than 20<. Would you rather have two Crosby's or a Nash and a Crosby?
Are you kidding me? Do think anybody in this draft, even in the top 5, can be compared to Crosby or Nash for that matter? Btw, Virtanen was ranked as the 8th best player in the draft by Bob McKenzie and every mock draft I've seen has him in the top 10. There's no way he falls outside the top 10.
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Lmfao. None of those are close comparisons.
I was speaking in terms of the style of play, not skill wise or who's better.
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Canucks should trade the 6th over-all and actually get a winger for the Sedins...
We should tank. Sedins aren't the same players they used to be. Our best players don't play like our best players and we just traded Luo for parts that look like a team going into a rebuild. If we play our cards right, we can get a top 5 pick next year and get a future 1st line center (Barzal) and turn the ship around in a couple of years.
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Here's the 5 best prospects IMO for this draft, after the top 5, compared to our prospects in no order...
Nylander = Schroeder. A stretch to compare him to Nylander, but he plays like him minus the skill. I'll say he doesn't compare to anybody just because Schroeder hadn't lived up to expectations w. injuries, etc.
Ehlers = Shinkaruk . Both had ridiculous #'s they both put up prior to getting drafted and they're both speedy.
Perlini= Jensen. Similar size and play alike.
Ritchie = Kassian. Most obvious one. Play an identical game.
Virtanen = NOBODY. Flashes of a lot of our prospects in his game. Sort of like a more skilled Kassian or more physical Jensen.
One could argue that you could use many of the same players but I really don't see the point. If I were GM (which I'm obviously not) then I'd want a diverse team who can do it all. For the sake of this topic lets narrow it down to Nylander or Virtanen. I say we draft Virtanen because we've got good prospects down the middle w/ Horvat, Guance, Schroeder, Cassels, Fox, etc. Also, next year's draft has plenty of better centers than Nylander (McDavid, Eichel, Barazal, Konecny, Strome, etc) I wouldn't mind if we picked any of these 5 players or even if we got Hayden Fleury since we have a shallow dman prospect pool. At 6'1, 210Ibs, Virtanen can do it all. He had 71P in 71G w/ 100PIMS. He's played at the Ivan Hlinka tourney and is currently playing for Canada at the U18 thing (don't know the name). Not to mention that he's a BC boy. Here's what mynhldraft.com says about him:
- Speed – Big man speed with acceleration, agility, balance. Won the 30 metre sprint, backward and forward, at the CHL Top Prospects game.
- Shot – Big gun, quick finger, hits target, penetrates net.
- Power forward – Jake Virtanen has the size, skating, drive and physicality teams look for in a power forward – Jake is probably the purest power forward in the draft.
- Improvements to make – Should continue to work on using his teammates better, push for excellence in his defensive work and exert his physicality on a constant basis to win puck battles.
Virtanen is a heads-up player who thinks the game well and is willing to get his nose dirty. He has slick hands, a dynamic shot and a strong stride that makes him dangerous. He can be outright dominant at times offensively with his blend of size, skill and speed.
Sounds like a player I'd love to see wearing the blue and green...
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My vote goes to firing Gillis. Name me 1 good trade he's made. I can name a couple bad ones, Ballard, Booth, Luo (if you're going to retain, at least get a 2nd out of em), Kassian (will take more time to pan out), Schneider (should've gotten at least a 2nd also).
Torts should be gone as well but I'd rather have Gillis gone than Torts.
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To Van: Anthony Mantha
To Det: Edler and a 5th
To MTL: Kesler and 3rd
To Van: Galchenyuk and 4th
Trade the rest of the players who are over 27 yo (Yes, even the Sedins)
With these trades or prospects look like this:
-Horvat
-Shinkaruk
-Jensen
-Guance
-Galchenyuk
-Mantha
Why the Canucks should draft Jake Virtanen
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Hopefully he doesn't injure himself in the process like some other player has...