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  1. I have no problem with people pretending what ever they want, but are the trans people (dudes) dominating women sports kind of taking away from real female athletes? And would that not set back women sport in general if you just let men in skirts go win the sport?

    Besides if they just gave every one a medal or trophy everybody would be included, YAY 2019!!

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  2. 4 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

    No, what I did was post an article from the SAME source detailing how marines and soldiers who were THERE said he could not have been the person who threw it and that there is a good likelihood that another person did.  

     

    From the exact same source.  I have made up my mind, to believe the facts.

     

     

    Silly question do you decide to trust one mans word only when it backs up your narrative? because one man says he through it, but we all know that doesn't fit the narrative right? You say you believe facts, after telling me Khadr never admitted it, now you say he did but he's lying, your just pick which statements you like and run with them

  3. Just now, gurn said:

    Never hug your kid and wife again.

     

    Right. 

    Looks like the annual contest for "virtue signaller" of the year has a contestant.

    OK pal when I was questioned over actions that myself and section went through in Afghanistan, while serving in the CAF never once did I bend from the truth even if it meant being jailed, which it didn't because we did everything according to ROE's, so I say again I would sacrifice my life for anything I believe in. one of us is a keyboard warrior, and one of us is a real one, you decide

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  4. Just now, Warhippy said:

    Pretty sure I called it in numerous threads.  When people do not like the facts they immediately attack the source.  Which is why I posted articles from nuermous different sources.  but still, only had you factor in one source as though that somehow makes the facts less credible

    That does seem to be what you do I posted an article of him apologizing to the Speer family, and where it states to him admitting to throwing the grenade, but what do you do completely ignore it. I personally don't believe every article I read and I question most everything in life. We are obviously not going to agree on this, because you've made up your mind and that's fine.

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  5. 1 minute ago, gurn said:

     

    In order to get out of Guantanamo, a place where he was being illegally held, while his rights were violated by both the US and Canadian governments.

    So how much is an apology worth when coerced?

    Well I guess that could be the case... however I would never admit to killing someone I did not kill for any reason, but it is what it is. 

  6. 1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

    See, this is where you lose all credibility.  Making statements that I hold a "terrorist" to such high value demeans any chance you have at pretending to have a credible and civil conversation.  That is akin to me calling you a nazi, racist or bigot for continuing to attack a disproven series of arguments while continuing to call him a terrorist.  

     

    Why he apologized?  Ask him.  

     

    But then also ask the courts why they sided with him.  Ask the courts why he won his case, ask the courts why he was not charged with treason.  Then also ask the witnesses that say he could not have been the person who killed Speer.

     

    Understand, that we have literally done this to death.  Only the ignorant continue to parrot the same disproven statements and ask the exact same questions the courts have already answered numerous times.

     

    Here is one of my favourite statements, also from Thespec.com

     

    https://www.thespec.com/news-story/7416238-omar-khadr-fact-check-paints-a-clearer-picture-of-the-case-and-the-incident-underlying-it/

     

    Details of the firefight: The claim in Khadr's civil suit is narrow: Canadian officials had breached his rights as a citizen. That means details of the firefight and what may or may not have happened in Afghanistan 15 years ago are not at issue.

    However, this has been one of the political talking points. "Khadr confessed to murdering Christopher Speer, a medic who rushed to his aid," tweeted Jason Kenney, leader of the Progressive Conservative Association of Alberta.

     

     

    That is incorrect according to testimony from the American soldiers who were there.

    "I just remember being dumbstruck that there was someone being alive in there," a Delta Force soldier told the Toronto Star during an interview for the CBC documentary Guantanamo's Child. "After all that bombing, after all the ordinance we dropped in there, somebody was still alive."

    As the soldiers cleared the compound, their weapons were drawn. They did not expect any survivors.

    A Pentagon report written after the firefight interviewing the soldier who shot Khadr, identified only as OC-1, raises the possibility that someone else was alive in the compound when the grenade that ultimately killed Speer was thrown. "He heard moaning coming from the back of the compound. The dust rose up from the ground and began to clear. He then saw a man facing him lying on his right side," the report states. "The man had an AK-47 on the ground beside him and the man was moving. OC-1 fired one round striking the man in the head and the movement ceased. Dust was again stirred by this rifle shot. When the dust rose, he saw a second man sitting up facing away from him leaning against the brush. This man, later identified as Khadr, was moving . . . . OC-1 fired two rounds both of which struck Khadr in the back."

    Randy Watt, the commander who wrote that report after the action, later revised it to state that only one person was alive when the grenade was thrown. In an interview, he attributed the confusion to the "fog of battle." He changed the report, he said, because he thought Khadr had been killed due to the severity of his injuries.

    The report, and testimony from Watt and OC-1, would have been key evidence at Khadr's Guantanamo trial, which was halted when the Pentagon offered him a plea deal.

    A condition of the deal was that Khadr confess to killing Speer, which he did during an emotional 2010 hearing at Guantanamo where Speer's widow Tabitha was present. Once released, Khadr did not deny throwing the grenade as his lawyers have insisted.

    He said he simply does not know and hopes he didn't.

     

    https://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/07/07/opinion/what-if-omar-khadr-isnt-guilty

     

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/evidence-shows-khadr-couldn-t-have-thrown-grenade-in-firefight-lawyer-1.749998

     

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/evidence-shows-khadr-couldn-t-have-thrown-grenade-in-firefight-lawyer-1.749998

     

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/khadr-couldnt-have-thrown-grenade-that-killed-us-soldier-defence-lawyer/article20391135/

     

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/omar-khadr-describes-firefight-that-killed-u-s-soldier-im-just-going-to-throw-this-grenade

     

    I don't know how many of those from however many sources one would have to post for that to be believable to a person with a serious bias on the issue but whatever.  I have far better things to do with my time than educate people with simple facts when they refuse to read them.

     

    Biden though, no chance Trump beats him

    So I would definitely cherry pick quotes from an article, when there is a man that claims to have thrown the grenade that killed Christopher Speer, Ive been in a war zone....Yourself? or do rely on CBC to tell you all about it

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  7. my last question on Khadr, why when he testified did he apologize to Tabitha Speer saying "I'm really sorry for the pain I've caused you and your family" Quoted out of an article from the spec.com October 28 2010. 

     

    I'm sorry I don't know how to add the link.

     

    Just curious how many innocent people would say this, help me out with this hippy, just cause you hold the terrorist to such high value doesn't me it's true or sane

  8. 1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

    He in no way admits to killing anyone.

     

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/omar-khadr-describes-firefight-that-killed-u-s-soldier-im-just-going-to-throw-this-grenade

     

    CBC and about 11 other publications report exactly what has happened and what he said.  You keep saying things but the actual facts as they exist don't agree with you.  The courts did not find him guilty of treason.  Harpers government which brought him home did not find him guilty of treason.  

     

    You keep saying things, but that doesn't make them true,

    As with you my friend. But then again a hippy is always in the right

  9. Just for the record the arrogance on this thread is awesome, the I'm right attitude of so many who cannot seem to debate without saying catchphrases just great, and for the record this is still about Mr. Biden and if he has a hope in the election. I was asked my grievances on JT and supplied them and was told nope your wrong, great discussion well been fun, I am going to stay out of the political discussions. Just for the record I had a perfectly fine discussion with another poster whom obviously disagreed with my political standpoints and probably I his, but we managed to keep it civil. So good luck to you all and keep the amusement levels high

  10. 14 hours ago, Warhippy said:

    Your facts aren't facts.  They are the rantings of the ignorant right and the veiled insinuations of the bigots hiding in this country

     

    Facts are he was never tried, he was tortured, he was held against his will and our government left him to rot.  He sued the government, the courts found in his favour, the courts were set to award him far more than what the settlement was.  The medics who actually treated him also testified he was unfit and unable to have thrown a grenade with multiple holes in him from INSIDE a building and kill a medic standing over 100 feet away.

     

    There was no secrecy at all, out of court settlements are rarely spoken of, The very fact you don't understand how the courts work, Canadas consitution, the rights of a Canadian citizen OR why the Harper government didn't charge him with treason in 2012 show you don't have the intelligence to continue on with this conversation.

     

    So sjust have a seat until you've brushed up on the facts k

    Listen, I am not bigoted or racist or which ever catch phrase of the day you want to call me today, he was an admitted terrorist, meaning he admitted to doing it, you can defend this person as long as you wish, the fact that he left this country which was his country of residence, to go and aid in a fight against allied soldiers is grounds for treason charges. But you know CBC says that he is a changed man so the mighty Warhippy will parrot that sentiment.

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  11. 56 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

    Just so we are clear there is millions of Canadians that disagree with you two. First of all it wasn't a done deal in court. You mentioned facts but meanwhile you you weren't being factual.

     

     

    He seems to know everything about that case, I'm still unsure how a convicted terrorist, who killed one of our closest allies can then come back and sue, should he not be tried for high treason under the law? 

  12. 3 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

    10 million that would have been more if he hadn't settled. As advised by government lawyers.

     

    We've been down this stupid road before. It's one of the more frustrating things abo0ut this forum....noobs coming in a rehashing the same crap that has been debunked a dozen times before.

    Except as stated earlier it was done in secrecy seemingly to hide it from the families civil suit against Khadr

  13. 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

    When you live next to an elephant, you sometimes get the same fleas. 

    fair enough, I openly admit to being a conservative, I would not have voted for Trump, but I would not have voted for Hillary either. at least we can have a civil conversation, without resorting to anger and personal attacks right?

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  14. Just now, Warhippy said:

    Better than the rumoured $40 million the courts were ready to award him.  

     

    But hey, why let facts step in the way of a JT hate statement

    your facts are hilarious, Why if it was so just and right was it done in secrecy to hide the funds from the Speer families civil suit? Also why would a convicted terrorist get any funds from the tax payer, when he probably should have been charged with treason upon his return. Facts, like the fact he killed a medic.

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