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1 minute ago, Maddogy said:
I defended J.B. even though he is not perfect. This trade is an overpayment and redundant. This team is good enough to get into the playoffs and maybe even win the division without Toffoli.
I thought the long term plan is to let the veterans’ contracts expire and pay the young core players and introduce prospects into the lineup. This trade significantly deviates from this plan.
This trade is an overpayment because we gave up at least 2 prospects, Madden and whoever we were gonna draft in the 2nd round. This is an overpayment for Toffoli, who I like and I hope is gonna have great chemistry on the second line with Pearson.
Toffoli better frigging resign long term at a bargain price and have a point per game season from now on!!!
How is it redundant? They needed a top-6 forward to play. Toffoli is a solid upgrade over Eriksson/Virtanen to play with Horvat.
The long term plan has always been to build a young core and insulate then with veterans. Bending has been doing this since 2014 when he first took over.
Losing Madden will sting but losing the conditional 1st for Miller also hurt. Difference is Miller has played well and Toffoli moving to a playoff contender and play with chemistry with Pearson is a smart bet that he will well too.
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I only hope Virtanen doesn’t score tonight. I don’t think I can shotgun Merlot.
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18 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:
Accorfing to TSN overdrive Boeser turned down 7 mill 6 years.
What the heck is going on. GMs need to start pulling offers and play hardball with these guys.
Bring it down to 6.5 mill 6 yrs and say take it or sit the season.
RFAs like Boeser are likely betting on themselves to produce more as their career goes on and inflation rises. Look at Nathan McKinnon, signs a 7 year deal at a high cap in 2016 and a couple years later it’s highway robbery.
Long term deals no longer make sense for young talented players. Austin Matthews just reinforced that.
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1 hour ago, WHL rocks said:
Too much imo.
No more than werenski on 3 years. D vs F but still no way Boeser should get more on 3 year deal. Make it similar structure with 7 mill QO for 4th year.
Timo Meier is a beast. Hes not a comparable so i don't know why Boeser thinks he deserves same or more.
I think they're just trying to bend JB over. JB has to hold the line. Let Boeser sit and if it gets past November let him sit the year.
I think you should look at the details to Werenski’s deal. To qualify him after his contract would set himself up for at least $7 million and he get arbitration rights to go for more.
Also, I believe it was rumoured that it was Benning making the comparable to Meier’s cap hit.
Also, Brock’s career PPG is .83 compared to Meier’s .56 so I guess you’re right that they aren’t comparable.
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23 minutes ago, stawns said:
Boeser isn't in the same tier as Bo, sorry. People need to stop looking at points as the metric. Bo is the best overall player on the team, followed by Petey.........I'd put Boeser below them both, but above Baer. He, simply, has no impact on a game beyond offense.
Boeser had 40 takeaways last year compared to Bo’s 28
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Meh he needs a training camp and training at Leafs camp without a contract would be a gong show. This doesn’t really impact negotiations.
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The problem is the Leafs paid their young stars big bucks early and now it’s the trend for all young stars. Bridge deals are much higher than before making the more difficult. That’s why San Jose and Meiers had to get creative with an opt-out because there’s a lot riding on the player to continue his productive pace.
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I don’t know it seems like this summer whenever a rumoured contract is put out there, we always sign for less than the report. Myers was apparently looking at $7-8 million per, Ferland at $4-4.5 million.
Just saying people haven’t got it right this summer with rumours.
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I’d send them Sutter with possible some salary retained for JP
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Probably a good Demko comparable for his next contract.
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3 hours ago, oldnews said:
Did you read what you posted?
The league minimum, plus 375 is subtracted.
Eriksson is irrelevent - his cap hit is 8 times Sparks - whose cap hit is less than league minimum +375k.
If Eriksson were buried, the Canucks would 'save' league minimum +375k - while the remainder would apply - because his contract exceeds that. Sparks' deal does not.
The same applies in the case of the actual cap space the Canucks have to sign Boeser - it's not really 5.883 - you add the million that is cleared when one of the 14 guys signed are waived/assigned to Utica = they have closer to 7 million and enough imo for a bridge for Boeser.
Nevermind, misread.
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3 hours ago, oldnews said:
one way deal means nothing relative to the cap - it simply indicates he makes the same salary whether he plays in the N or AHL. His cap hit was 750k ie under a million = burying him in the minors costs nothing against the cap - but replacing that roster spot with another player leaves extremely little room over league minimum to save anything at all.
Vegas can waive and bury Sparks and it costs them not a dollar towards the cap.
Nevermind, misread.
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2 hours ago, wai_lai416 said:
Yes but they only got Clarkson coz they wanted max relief on LTIR on Horton. Like an extra million. So still loopholes and circumvention
Not really. They may be able to spend to $92 million now but Horton and Clarkson still count toward the cap. The extra money they gained was mostly from not having to bury Sparks in the minors with his one-way deal.
The leafs are still praying Marner signs for less.
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55 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:
So why is the leafs not punished for cap circumventing? They take on Clarkson's contract just so they can get max LTIR on their other player.. if the Canucks would have done this $&!#. There be a league investigation and prolly draft pick docked
They will also have Dermott and Hyman on LTIR to start the year as well. But when those guys come back they will have to move someone even if they get Marner on the contract they want.
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11 minutes ago, Arrow 1983 said:
Yes exactly very good post
That being said, it’s still not enough if Marner want the same as Matthews. They’ll still at least $1M over.
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1 minute ago, SunnyHours said:
I can't answer that, I am certainly no expert, but have two thoughts:
1) Mitch Marner has to sign an offer sheet... it certainly seems doubtful to me that he signs anywhere else (just my opinion)
2) Laurence Gilman. Many here are bashing Dubas for this move but Gilman is a cap genius and I'm sure is the brains behind this. I highly doubt they made this move to save $250k of Sparks owed salary. There is strategy here.
Bonus thought: I hate this move. It seems like cap circumvention to me. Is it allowed? yes. Is it in the spirit of the CBA? Doubful and I sure hope it's closed in the next one. Highly doubt there will be retroactive penalties though.
I can definitely see this being a talking point as the GM meeting next season if they’ve found a way to artificially boost their cap.
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2 minutes ago, DeNiro said:
Still not understanding how these contracts allow them 2 million extra like he claims.
He also says it helps protect against an offer sheet.
I get the two contracts allow them to spend 10.55 now but that’s still not enough to sign him and they’d still be over the cap.
Its something to do with Accuring Cap Space.
What is the Accruable Cap Space Limit (ACSL)?
When a team goes into LTIR, their effective salary cap, or upper limit, is changed. This adjusted upper limit is calculated as a function of the teams cap space and the player’s cap hit. This value is the “accruable cap space limit” (ACSL), and is the first value calculated. Second are the salary and performance bonus relief pools that are later explained below.
The accruable cap space limit is the teams new upper limit excluding their LTIR relief pools. If the team operates below the ACSL, they begin to accrue cap space. A team can operate up to the ACSL without using their LTIR relief pools, once they operate above the ACSL, they begin to use their LTIR relief pools. In the majority of cases, a team using LTIR will be using their relief pools. Only in uncommon circumstances does a team operate below their ACSL.
The ACSL is only calculated when a team first enters LTIR, if a player is placed on LTIR while another player is already on LTIR, the ACSL is not recalculated. In the event that a team stops using LTIR, their ACSL resets to the default upper limit of the active season, upon reentering LTIR, the ACSL is again recalculated.
Two methods can be used to calculate the ACSL:-
The Basic Equation
The basic equation can be used throughout the NHL regular season, and during the off-season:
ACSL = Salary cap upper limit - team cap space
Example: The 2017-18 upper limit is $75M, a team with a projected cap hit of $74.9M places a player with an AAV of $5M on LTIR:Upper limit = $75MIf the team decides that they do not need to recall a player, and instead reassign a player to the AHL, they would begin to accrue cap space because they are operating below the ACSL.
Team cap space = $0.1M
ACSL = $75M - $0.1M = $74.9M
https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq
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14 minutes ago, DeNiro said:
I’m not getting it.
They still have to be cap compliant when the season starts even with the LTIR contracts.
How does waiting until day 1 to sign Marner give them an extra 2-3 mil to sign him?
I wasn’t referring to 1 day over. I was referring to the Leafs preparing for negotiations to go into the season and signing Marner around the same time as when Nylander did last year and having a prorated cap hit for the 2019-2020 season.
They still need to move someone if they want Marner over $10.5mill. Personally, I think he’s getting Matthews money and Leafs have to move Nylander/Kapanen/Johnsson to fit him in but we’ll see what they do.
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4 minutes ago, DeNiro said:
Why?
How does this affect Marner signing?
From what I’ve read so far, in the case Marner talks go into the season and he signs like Nylander did. Marner will not only get paid big bucks but it will also get prorated making it higher next season (Nylander’s cap hit was $10mil last season before coming back down).
The flexibility is that they won’t have to move another massive contract to make room with the extra LTIR limit). It doesn’t effect their situation this offseason as much as if negotiations go into next season.
I think this shows the Marner and the Leafs still are not close.
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30 minutes ago, Silver Ghost said:
They are creating artificial cap room though. Because if they are at the cap, they get that 10 mil more than other teams without having that player count against the roster. Its a seriously damaging loophole as bad or worse than the Luongo type contracts were.
We all know because its the Leafs it will work out fine for them. The NHL knows where its bread is buttered.
If the Canucks did this it would create an instant significant penalty for cap circumvention.
Well not really because even without the Horton and Clarkson contracts they will still be at the cap ceiling. They still have to sign Marner at under $10.5million and plug a couple no-names into the roster if they want to be under the cap with the LTIR artificial cap.
Maybe it’s just because I look at those players as non-existent because they’ll never play another game.
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Let’s be honest, the Leafs haven’t really done much to open up more cap space. They just took on a contract they can put on LTIR (which won’t affect the cap) for a contract they would have been forced to bury in the minors (which a percentage would still go against the cap).
They saved pennies.
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2 hours ago, Sophomore Jinx said:
Is this more than just a hypothetical question, and you actually believe this could be a possibility? Sorry, but it ain't happening, not even with Scotty Bowman, in his prime, as his coach.
Seriously, the offense wheels have fallen off of the LE bus, he no longer has it. Sure, he can still provide decent PK, and the little things, but so can my Aunt Ishni and half of the NHL, but it's apparent that he no longer has the drive or commitment to succeed, not in this millieu anyway, and even come close to living up to his contract.
And he may not be a cancer in the room, as others have suggested he most certainly is, but his presence would certainly be a distraction, wouldn't it?
For LE to even have a chance to achieve what you've offered up, even with negating all of the form, and want, and scoring touch he'd have to miracuously regain, LE and TG would have to gain each others trust again, and let bygones be bygones....yes, they're professionals, but I just don't see that happening, do you?
It was hypothetical. Eriksson hasn’t shown he would produce anything over 30 points in a full season and I think that’s even optimistic thinking.
He just doesn’t fit into the way the league has been changing to the north-south offensive style.
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I don’t know what your expectations are of Virtanen but he’s improved every year and is incredibly versatile.
That being said, I would not be disappointed if it cost Virtanen for Severaon.