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For a certain user that was downplaying the OEL connection and thinking JB can’t make a vision of that of the Dallas blueline,
JB literally mentioned both the Stars & Lightning defense to something he’d like to incorporate. Both teams have not 1 but 2 clear cut guys capable of moving the puck up the ice. He said we have Hughes but would like to add another guy via trade if it can get done.
Literally everything’s aligned up until this point...would be a shocker if a deal doesn’t get done at this rate.
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2 minutes ago, Moose Nuckle said:
A classic:
haha
No that user has a reputation of being a teacher’s pet / only one right in discussions. There’s a handful of members who I know of that choose not to interact with him. Similarly, I quite simply said no to his reply !
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2 minutes ago, oldnews said:
no, that's exactly what I thought.
that no, you can't explain your reasoning.
nevermind explaining how the question is/ I am "wrong".
Oh no, I very easily can. Just choosing not to since you asked.
If anyone else does I’ll more than gladly share it with them
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3 minutes ago, oldnews said:
that's what I thought.
What’s what you thought? Me saying no?
Let me be the first to tell you no, that’s not what you thought. You definitely anticipated me to explain my reasoning for it hence why you asked.
So yea, you’re wrong. And because it’s you, no.
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2 minutes ago, oldnews said:
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can you explain how you arrive at that conclusion?
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7 minutes ago, rekker said:
Been saying this for awhile about Boston and Krug. Why on earth would they trade assets when they can just sign Krug. Only thing is maybe Krug wants to move on. I heard money was an issue. Boston offering in the 6.5 range and Krug wants more.
Exactly, so who would they trade for an extra $2.25M over what they’re unwilling to go over for Krug?
They wouldn’t. And they won’t.
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Arizona will sooner or later be forced to trade OEL here to Vancouver.
...this idea that they’re waiting on Boston to decide on Krug makes zero sense. Krug is A.) better than OEL B.) a few months younger & C.) if Boston won’t pay Krug, then why on earth would they trade for OEL who’s the inferior dman and will cost more than what Krug will end up signing for?
Imo b/c of this, all signs lead to Yotes having to take whatever we offer and meeting at a middle ground to complete a deal. I would be shocked if Boston traded for OEL for reasons mentioned above. Doesn’t make any sense for them to do.
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With our fourth & final selection of the 2020 CDCGML draft, the Tampa Bay Lightning are proud to welcome: Devon Levi !
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With our third selection of the 2020 CDCGML draft, the Tampa Bay Lightning are proud to welcome: Theo Rochette !
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With our first selection of the 2020 CDCGML draft, the Tampa Bay Lightning are proud to welcome: Ian Moore !
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With our first selection of the 2020 CDCGML draft, the Tampa Bay Lightning are proud to welcome: Veeti Miettinen !
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2024 Starting Lineup
Andrei Svechnikov - Tyler Seguin - Vitali Kravstov
Matthew Tkachuk - Dylan Larkin - Adam Mascherin
Oliver Wahlstrom - Chris Tierney - Julien Gauthier
Jordan Greenway [A] - Paul McCarthy - Oskar Lindblom [C]
J.T. Brown
Josh Morrissey - Matt Dumba [A]
Hampus Lindholm - Torey Krug
Jake Bean - Julius Honka
Madison Bowey, Cody Ceci
Carey Price
Malcolm Subban [A]
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3 minutes ago, oldnews said:
Here's what he said:
Sustained pressure in the offensive zone - interesting - it's the blueline that applies the bulk of the pressure in the offensive zone, right...
so, the Canucks struggles to maintain ozone possession, would have nothing to do with their forwards - their top 3 lines limping...
Sounds like I may not have been as wrong as you claim.
As I said it’s a mix of things. And yes a big part of that was the Stars blueline if you even watched the series (doubt). Stars forwards as well as defense sustained pressure by moving the puck up ice and not holding on to it like we did. Outside of Hughes, for the most part the rest of our defense was incapable of doing that constantly. 1/6 dmen is a recipe for disaster. The Stars clearly studied tape and applied that change to get the best of Vegas which turns out overwhelmed them as they took them out.
But again, stop going off topic and opening different avenues and doors. Honestly, I’m surprised and glad to see you drop the weight thing. It was outright dumb and wrong but even though you didn’t admit to it (which you’ve never done so wouldn’t expect you to), your silence and non-mention of it is something I’m proud of. Didn’t double down !
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Just now, oldnews said:
the ironing is delicious.
er - read the Friedman quote your thread depends on - I just quoted it for you - re: the big, strong D that broke down Vegas...noticeably different how Dallas could handle Vegas....
you know - the basis upon which your entire "overhaul" is supposed to "begin" - chasing the Dallas goalposts.
nevermind the leap to assuming that is what would inform Benning....to 'begin' an overhaul....nor the irony that 2 of the biggest 3 D were the summer before last...
And btw - Ekman-larsson - is 200lbs - he would be joining a blueline that averages 201lbs - hypothetically 'replacing' a defenseman that is 197 lbs.....
In order to "overhaul" the blueline - to make it bigger, stronger??
He also said they were able to take the puck out of the zone and sustain offensive zone time which played a major factor in their success. But once again, please go ahead and conveniently ignore that part which he said. “The irony is delicious” - seconded.
Overhaul does not equate to weight. How are you even holding discussion with others with such poor general knowledge? You can weigh more than me but I can be “stronger” than you. And by “breaking down” a team, it doesn’t just have to literally mean physically. It’s by hockey smarts and ability which the Stars defense had a mix of.
...look no further than our very own team - is Stecher not strong because he doesn’t weigh as much as others? Was Hansen not strong? Were the Sedins’ not strong? I guess you think Gudbranson was strong for us solely off his weight even though he didn’t know how to throw his weight around and use it. There are many heavy “softies” that are not “strong”. Physically or on the puck or mentally.
Now go twist something else out of context...I should take my own advice which Deniro seems to have and not bother with you. Delusional, bonkers, confusing, misleading, whatever you may want to call it - is all that your posts are full of. And you double down every time. My advice would be to stop living up to your name and being mindful of others. How is it that everyone else besides you is wrong? Should sleep on that.
But for the sake my own sanity and others that have had meaningful discussion in this thread, yea sure you’re right & we’re all wrong. I’m sure that must be music to your ears
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4 minutes ago, oldnews said:
talks around an OEL that has indicated he wants to come here - do not therefore indicate an intent to "begin an overhaul".
What is this big defense that Friedman and his coach are talking about? the blueline that is the supposed prototype this team is supposed to goalpost chase?
Klingberg 180
Heiskanen 185
Hanley 191
Sekera 200
Lindell 215
Oleksiak 255
Hughes 175
Stecher 185
Tanev 197
Fantenburg 206
Edler 212
Myers 229
The Canucks are 4 lbs heavier through the first 5 defensemen on that list - the blueline that is so "big and strong" compared to Vancouver's
Okeksiak outweighs Myers - that is the solitary thing that tips that scale by 22 total pounds...divided by 6 defensemen.
Nothing to see here.
Sorry but is this MMA or boxing? Why did you bring out the weighing scale?
Not sure what promoted you to go off topic and mention such a ludicrous thing but let me be the first to say, overhaul ≠ weigh scale
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3 minutes ago, oldnews said:
Which is it? Begin an overhaul?
Or did they already add Myers last offseason? And Hughes. Edler is going nowhere. The team has more than adequate LHD depth with Fantenburg, Benn, Juolevi, Rathbone, Brisebois, Sautner...
So we are talking about two expiring RHD - Tanev and Stecher - not "beginning an overhaul". You can fluff Friedman all you want - these two expiring contracts are not 'wanting to begin an overhaul'.
It is not even resolved yet whether they intend to move on from Tanev, where indications are that the team is interested in bringing him back, and Tanev has clearly stated his preference to return. Benning's comments were that he has "tough decisions to make on other guys" - trading other guys to create the cap to re-sign Markstrom, Tanev and Toffoli.
Benning told TSN1040 that being able to re-sign Tanev, Markstrom and Toffoli would require trading other players in order to fit all three under the NHL salary cap, which will remain at $81.5 million next season.
"Have to make some tough decision on other guys," Benning said.
No indication of 'wanting to begin an overhaul of the blueline'. Might need to replace Tanev if he can't create the cap space...Not exactly an overhaul regardless - it isn't even determined if Stecher will re-signed or not. Friedman, Dayal, Dhaliwal's word, though, should be taken over Bennings...
The second part the bolded mystery coach refers to....ironically, is something EP40 believes is wrong.
Do you realize he’s said he’ll have to make “tough decisions” on the teams pending UFA’s too? Yes. But instead, you twisted it to as if he’s catering towards ONLY prioritizing them and nothing beyond that. Which is ludicrous. No team only works internally, they look externally to bring in outside reinforcements. You are completely forgoing that which is sad being it’s common sense management, hockey 101 some would say.And again, you seem incapable of adding up rather obvious clues. As of now, those clues are as simple as 1+1=2 taking into consideration JB’s track record/willingness to bring in a top pair dman from seasons past, the most trusted NHL insider+Canucks insider saying they’re looking to overhaul, and the cherry on top them saying we’re in talks to bring in an OEL.
...when there’s smoke, sometimes it’s a pile of steaming hot you-know-what. But in this instance, it’s clear as day it’s a blazing fire that is being acknowledged by all. Except you it seems...and again not even sure why myself and others are even entertaining your replies. It’s a never ending circle in which you have shown no admitting to even conceivably being wrong once. Something as straight forward as this. Good day to you !
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3 hours ago, oldnews said:
nvmd.
2 hours ago, DeNiro said:Lol you just proved you don’t watch Boston much.
Krug can more than handle forecheck pressure. He’s one of the best in the league at slipping forecheckers and moving the puck.
Grouping Barrie and Krug together is just ignorant.
Don’t bother, Deniro. This user is constantly talking out of his depth and then doubles down every time when proven wrong.
Not sure if it was this thread or another - but there was a sequence where he thought Boeser was a reliable defensive forward and a reason not to trade away when underlying numbers show he is the worst on our team amongst forwards.
...I’m also not surprised he edited his post - now I cannot respond to what is was. Just let him ramble on - b/c in fact - his username suits him perfectly - being that he is in fact: old news. Just so full on himself and false narratives assuming he knows more than not just fellow users like us but the top hockey insiders across hockey & Canucks. There’s no point in engaging with someone like that, you simply cannot win.
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10 minutes ago, oldnews said:
I see this response confused you @EP40.
Does anyone remember the intermission segments in which Juice broke down the problems the Canucks were having with opposition dzone possession?
To summarize:
1) the team was consistently defending very well - giving up few high danger chances, keeping the possession to the perimeter, collapsing excellently on the first shot and preventing second scoring chances, good positioning, puck support, creating zone exits - doing all the things on their side of the puck to keep them consistently in games and frustrating the hell out of Vegas.
2) the problem was, however, once they gained those exits, they weren't moving the puck with intent, they turned it over in the neutral zone or dumped and changed, and in the process they were simply resetting, and defending all over again....
What it evidenced was actually entirely antithetical to the wave of goal post chasing we've seen since. The team's blueline wasn't inadequate, their puck movement/first pass was not inadequate - they simply did not sustain possession once they exited their zone. He did an excellent job of illustrating it, actually - and it made perfect sense in the context of three forward lines on the limp.
And now - ironically - we have waves of 'overhaul' the D proposals - and haven't really asked the obvious questions. The two D we propose to 'replace' - which of them struggles to move the puck in their own zone? Tanev, or Stecher? The irony here might just be this - those are two of the better dzone puck movers the team has. Before people pipe in pumping Hughes, the thing Hughes struggled with was the hard, physical, constant forecheck/pressure, and that is pretty much the only circumstance in which he can be seen to not move the puck exceptionally well - and to be expected to a certain extent. Meanwhile - Tanev's puck retreival, first pass, vision, hockey intelligence, very quick decision-making = all things that assisted Hughes to have more time and space in those situations - the two of them mobile enough to retrieve pucks and attempt to move them before the forecheck closes on them.
Stecher had outstanding goal metrics in the playoffs - he and Fantenburg were both excellent defensively. Fantenburg had an unreal .969 on ice sv% throughout the playoffs - the best on the team, while Stecher was 2nd best on the blueline at .953 - and neither of them were exactly playing 'easy' minutes - they faced two of the better possession teams in the league.
Fwiw as a side note: Virtanen .963 and Beagle .960 also had excellent on ice sv%.... while Hughes was lowest on the team (.905) and EP 2nd (.915). In EP's case, however, I'd point out that he was forced into centering his line - not ideal - but did an outstanding job imo of battling, blocking shots, diving into passing lanes - really, both those young stars held up exceptionally well against heavy, fast, skilled opponents....
But to the point - the problem in the playoffs was not the blueline nor their ability to defend in or exit the dzone - the problem was the once they did, they did not create enough, did not possess the puck enough, did not sustain pressure, did not establish a consistent enough forecheck, did not make like difficult enough for Theodore and Schmidt - basically it was too easy to defend against them - the 2nd and 3rd lines - were entirely ineffective - the first had EP doing his best to hold his own with a pair of battling wingers who seemed to be gutting it out...
The idea that "overhauling" the D - as if the two expiring contracts, Tanev and Stecher (or even Fantenburg) is the answer to the problems vs Vegas = is quite simply not a good read on what happened, period.
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On 9/19/2020 at 3:40 PM, oldnews said:
I think Friedman is leaking wadr. And a bit ignorant here.
This team won't be 'overhauling' it's blueline - that is absurd - and dramatic. It might make a change - possibly two - but overhaul is laughable.
Seems you’re overreacting and wrong again. Stop thinking you’re unique by pretending to be in the loop knowing what the team is or isn’t doing. Most people - including myself - would much rather trust arguably the best hockey insider in Fried & Canucks insider in Dhaliwal....don’t know what caused you to react in such a way but yea you’re off the mark. Not hard to add 1+1 when JB has been shown to try trading for Subban/Karlsson back in the day and many others. He’s “overhauled” the defense last season and will continue to. More than 50% of the blueline come next season will possibly consist of dmen who haven’t been with the team for more than 2 years. If that’s not an overhaul than I’m not sure what is.
Canucks clearly interested in adding a couple new dmen at the least and linked to multiple guys (Cernak/OEL/Dillon/Ekblad) to continue on from the overhaul from the last off season.
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3 hours ago, Patrick Kane said:
Florida welcomes home the snip show ft. “D-Boss”-
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Great idea, love it !
However b/c of the previous contract signings from years past that have accumulated up to this point, we’re at a point where the team won’t even be able to retain all of our key pending UFA’s and have bigger needs (defense and/or goalie if Marky walks due to lack of $).
But god damn if we weren’t handicapped financially, Maroon would be the perfect player to carry the torch from Dorsett & now Ferland...sucks we can’t throw a contract his way unless JB maneuvers a way. And I wouldn’t be all that shocked if he did now that I think of it. He loves those types of guys. Maroon fits his kinda guy 110%
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Independent journalists and reporters and news outlets on social media and other platforms are much more reliable. In fact, I think they’re turning into and may already be the new MSM. People are moving with the times and it’s readily available to see. Nice not having to decipher bs like the TV MSM we’ve been accustomed to... Ratings/views wise, it echoes the same sentiment that there’s been a shift. MSM on TV is running but taking losses.
this is why I don’t trust classic MSM for the most part
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1 minute ago, Blue Jay 22 said:
Whatever you say
At the end of the day, your opinion is just an opinion and doesn’t really matter. It’s up to us Americans to vote for who we think will best lead the country.
& Joe Biden is not that person !
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1 minute ago, RUPERTKBD said:
Trump knows no shame....
Any evidence to back this claim?
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[Rumour] Tyler Toffoli to hit free agency
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Good job JB !