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The Minnesota Wild are fortifying the crease with Hart's back up, from Montreal, Sam "Snacks" Montembeault.
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@NMHockeyhave a great pick
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The Minnesota Wild are happy to pick Noah Östlund
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1 minute ago, Gurn said:
Oh, so you do, actually believe it is worth 'fighting" but just want people who have different opinion to go away?
Back in the old days that was called 'gatekeeping' iirc.
Careful now Gurn, you're treading awfully close to 'hater' territory.
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19 minutes ago, Papa Sawce said:Going no captaincy is such a stupid new aged hipster way to do it, I hate when teams take like 3 years to choose a captain just do it
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4 minutes ago, Strawbone said:
A hockey YouTuber posted a video on the trade and said they researched the pronunciation and came up with “Pewss” (hard S at the end).
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6 minutes ago, BarnBurner said:
It's pretty apparent that you are against Miller, and you're always debating Deb.
And there are others.
Chill. It's not worth fighting for.
I don't recall any other times I have debated Deb, when was another time? We're not fighting, but if you call someone out they might question you.
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6 minutes ago, BarnBurner said:
You keep challenging Deb, whether or not Miller should be captain.
You don't like him, fine.
But that's only your opinion.
So because I have a different opinion on if Miller should be captain, I'm a hater? I even said I thought he should wear an A. So there's only 1 right opinion on subjects and everyone else is a hater?
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As much as I love the puns... Is his name pronounced pie-us or pews.
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50 minutes ago, BarnBurner said:
Whatever. You McBean are haters. And clearly, you are constantly whinging about pretty much everything.
Out of curiosity what have I said that's made me a "hater" as you so eloquently put it.
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37 minutes ago, Bounce000 said:
Arizona selects Jake Bean
You're god damn right
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9 minutes ago, BarnBurner said:
This is actually hilarious.
You snivel about pretty much everything, yet Miller plays with passion and you try to "spin it on the haters"?
I ain't no JT fanboy, but I can't remotely imagine someone like you being a captain.
I'd rather JT be the captain instead of putting unnecessary pressure on Petey or Hughes.
Huh, that got oddly personal for your first comment on the subject.
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3 minutes ago, RWJC said:
Your avatar reveals the pain.
I empathize.
It sucks, cause Sarah is so pretty. But your eyes are immediately drawn to Zegras thighs... It's like a train wreck, you can't look away
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3 hours ago, Mj2345 said:
Cover Athlete reveal not as big a thing as it used to be as most people buy digitally downloaded games these days
Tell that to my eyes everytime I booted up the last NHL games and had to look at Zegras thighs for 6 seconds...
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40 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:
Smyl was good with the media.
Still is
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17 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said:
Very well said. It captures my thoughts as I read the exchanges. No matter how hard you try during your shift to score loafing to the bench on a line change and not backchecking, or sulking about a play is a detriment and not a good hockey trait. There is no excuse for that type of behavior. It's fair to point out and shouldn't be swept under the rug. Lots of players do it consistently and all players are guilty of it from time to time. Bottom line is it's a negative as far as leadership goes
Also a good point about demeanor, you always want to be able to keep your emotions in check. Getting fired up is fine but there is a point where aggressive anger leads to poor decision making. It's a fine line and Miller walks if often. It's part of what makes him a good player though. I wouldn't want him to lose that tenacity and level of caring, but he could learn to control it better. As a leader on the team his teammates follow the example he sets. A captain needs to be calm and thinking clearly under pressure.
100%.
The fun thing is, I actually believe the Miller stuff was generally overblown. But that doesn't change the fact that the Schenn, Delia, multiple lazy back checks and leaving the bench early (that was this year alone) were all prime examples of what a captain does not do. I'm fine with a star player doing those things, as long as you have a leadership group that can be the counter balance to that type of volatile behaviour. I think rewarding that type of behaviour with a captaincy would be this franchise, who's trying to change the culture, shooting themselves in the foot.
Even Petey has moments where he smashes the stick on the bench out of frustration. But Tochett said himself that https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/back-to-grade-school-canucks-tocchet-plans-to-reteach-the-basics-after-blowout-loss/“We’ve got to strip it down and we’ve got to just, you know, make people understand how important it is to do these hard things to win. It starts from the first goal, throwing a puck away and we give their best player a breakaway to start. The ball starts (rolling) right there. Then you get some guys get frustrated, smashing sticks. No more smashing sticks and stuff. You can’t be entitled in this game. It’s a hard game to play and we’ve got to stick together.” ironically, if I remember correctly, this quote about smashing sticks was in regards to JT smashing his stick on the bench). But I think Petey will learn to control his emotions over time, he's only 24. Miller is 30, I suspect what you see is what you get with him, for the most part.
I think Miller is an important part of this teams leadership going forward. He should wear an A, no doubt in my mind. But I think he would be arguably the worst pick of the players who are a serious candidate to wear the C.
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3 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said:
Fair enough, It's my own take on it, I never watch the post game media stuff.
Totally fair Beered, it's not everyone's cup of tea. But it's the captains job to answer the bell to media. Horvat even took a lot of heat about his job as captain. But he stood infront of a microphone for a lot of really rough years and I respect him for that. It must be incredibly difficult to be a captain in a franchise with such a passionate fan base when the team is in a down decade.
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2 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:
Who was our best Captain with the media?
Historically or currently?
Currently on the team it's Hughes and no question. Guy is articulate, thoughtful, and has thick enough skin to do the job.
Historically, I assume Linden. But to be fair, I was to young to understand the importance of the media aspect of the job when he was in charge. I only remember on the ice. So i'd say Hank. He always stood up there and gave meaningful answers. Even when all of Vancouver's heart was broken, he stood tall and did the job with respect and dignity.
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15 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said:
Lots of folks are worried about the media guys, screw em, (the media guys). The captaincy is about the team-ref relationship on the ice, not some BS questions after the game.
In my opinion, this is entirely incorrect. The captain's entire job is to deal with the media. The leadership groups job is to deal with the refs and keep moral up in the room with the team. But the captains job is to stand in front of the media night in and night out, through the good and the bad.
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1 minute ago, -DLC- said:
When was the last time JT did something concerning to you? And no one aside from Petey really was scoring like he was either, so....
You lost me at the "I played" part as that has NO bearing on a discussion about JT Miller. Does not make your opinion more credible.
Done, for the last time...agree to disagree. There's no right/wrong in this, only our opinions. And mine is swayed by the fact that JT is touted throughout the league as a valuable asset and the team has bought in long term with him. All that matters to me at this point...our fans who don't support him aren't really relevant to me.
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4 minutes ago, -DLC- said:
I feel that some reading into JT in a negative light are being burdened by emotions. Deciding what he is based on a couple (not multiple) displays rather than in a big picture way. He wears his heart on his sleeve and is a fierce competitor...not really a bad thing considering what he does for a living.
He's volatile is an emotional response to what you're seeing from him. Some read it as: he's playing a fast paced, intense, physical game and is all in. And yes, he shows that.
Besides, we need a little more volatility and less complacency. He also fights...that's his volatile side. So it has it's place in this game.
"Sulking off the ice" doesn't really capture who he is...he had a moment or two and those stuck there are burdened by emotions in my view.
Drance and positive don't really go together from what I've seen and read from him.
But again...we'll never see eye to eye. And I'm glad the team sees him in more of a positive light than some others do.
"When you're talking about more than one, you're talking about multiple things. A machine with many fixtures has multiple parts. A person that seems like two totally different people on different days might have multiple personalities." -vocabulary.com
a number that can be divided by another number without a remainder. -Oxford
You continually bring up multiple for whatever reason , so here is the definition of multiple. Just so we can put this one to rest....
Fast-paced, physical game is not an excuse. Every player on the ice is playing the same game. No one else is acting like JT does as frequently as JT does.
Do we need more volatility? Your opinion seems to be yes, mine is no. I played high level team sports and competed in boxing and at no point did any of my coaches ever once suggest I should be more volatile. Never once, only that you control your emotions so you can preform to your highest ability. You seem to have a different opinion, and that's cool.
He sulked of the ice, doesn't matter if it captures "who he is". None of us know "who he is", yourself included. We can only judge him on his play on the ice. He seems like a good guy, but even a good guy can make big mistakes. A grown adult leaving the ice early because he messed up doesn't show captain material in my eyes.
No, Drance is generally one of the more negative media members. He has every right to be, the teams been generally bad for 10 years.. But personally I like hearing his take on things, so I listen to him. As well as nearly all other sources of Canucks media, at least on 650. You making a blanket statement about Drance and ignoring the intricacies of how he has generally spoken about Miller is insincere, in my opinion.
We can agree on not seeing eye to eye on the subject though, I'm good with that.
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33 minutes ago, -DLC- said:
"But different media"? Who, exactly?
Seravalli in March:
So his opinion isn't the "correct" one...it's just "his opinion". Credible or not, he's been proven wrong despite his personal feelings (that's all they are) about JT.
A lot of media guys were convinced JT was being traded...to Pittsburgh/wherever. When they're wrong, they try to do double takes.
Drance (I don't hear supportive here). He's like McLean....try to board back on the bus when guys turn it around...after you've thrown them under it. It's called saving face or...trying to wipe the egg off it:
The Halford and Brough podcast went over this in detail on a believe Friday. Is was Jamie and Bik, I believe. If you want more information you can do back and listen to is yourself. I'm not gonna bother digging up time stamps for something that won't change your opinion anyways.
I really don't know what your Pits trade is trying to prove. It's evident that Miller was being discussed heavily in trade talks. Just because it didn't happen, doesn't make him wrong. Frank said it the Canucks felt it was in their best interest to trade him and were discussing options. Given he was in trade rumors for the better part of 2 years, right up until his NMC kicked in, feels like that's a fair statement. Where there's smoke, there's fire.
I really don't know what posting one Drance clip has to do with anything. Didn't you just criticize me for focusing on one negative aspect while ignoring the big picture? Then you post one hit that highlights a negative and willfully ignore the grandeur scope of things where Drance has generally been one of the more positive media members in regards to Miller, outside maybe Shah, since the whole keeping Horvat vs Miller thing starts coming up last season. Particular when the thing he criticized Miller about in the clip was leaving the bench early. Drance has every right to be critical about that. It's one of prime reasons why Miller is not captain material in my eyes. A captain doesn't sulk off the ice when the going gets tough.
Did he believe Miller should have been traded, yes. As do I. Signing a 30 year old for 7 years was a bad call. I'm glad they traded Horvat, and I think they should have traded Miller. That's not jumping the bus, that's speaking about the logistics of the situation without being burdened by emotions.
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7 minutes ago, -DLC- said:
Credible media people are out there...you just have to weed through the drama and clickbait.
We don't have to tag along with Drances and Sekereses of the world just because they're out there trying to get hits.
Drance actually has quite a solid relationship with Miller. There was a lot of speculation about Drance being the target of JTs ire in his recent podcast hit. But different media have reported it's unlikely Drance because they get along well. Drance has also generally been supportive of JT, as far as Drance goes.
One of the most generally accepted credible sources in NHL media is Frank Seravalli. I can't even say when he reported about Millers reputations or I'd risk getting a warning.
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3 minutes ago, -DLC- said:
Two is not really what most consider "multiple". "Several".
The Schenn thing? My good God...on no, they said heated words. And Delia wasn't anything more than a guy desperate to get the play moving. Again...these guys are seasoned professionals and if that rattles them, they aren't cut out for this game.
Don't dwell on a "few" things that were put under a microscope...look at Miller's entire body of work. His stats, his interviews, etc.
But you have that negative thing seemingly embedded...that's your deal, not his/the team's. They seem ok with so maybe time to just let it go" Much ado about nothing.
The team was a trainwreck...don't overlook that part. Miller was just the only guy openly displaying his frustration in that. Transparent, honest....heart on his sleeve stuff. Acceptance and indifference isn't part of his make up and .... why should it be?
Anyhow, won't change your mind but you won't change mine either. And the team seems to be fine with Miller so that's what matters.
I'm not going to get into linguistics of "multiple" with you, but by definition multiple is 2. I can think of 2 off the top of my head, and I won't even mention all the media stuff that's been rumored about him in the locker room because it's hearsay.
When your picking a captain, he's the face of the franchise. You have to look at every aspect. Why turn a blind eye and play willfully ignorant against the negative aspects of situations. If you want to do that, cool, no harm no foul. That's not part of my consideration process when making major. decisions
You are right, you won't change my mind. No one would dare try to change yours Deb. I've already said it, I'll say it again. Agree to disagree. I think he would be a terrible option for captain and you can hope they anoint him till the cows come home.
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I was iffy on this draft pick (mostly because I was a Benson fan boy) but how can you not love this kid. In every interview he just seems like such a character