The King of Kings
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On 7/27/2023 at 1:17 PM, Elias Pettersson said:
I'll try and keep bumping this thread...
Please do so while you can ...
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On 4/20/2023 at 1:10 AM, Ghostsof1915 said:
Got notified and I freaked. Then I'm like. Ok you got me......
On 4/20/2023 at 1:11 AM, Odd. said:Holy crap ya got me..
On 4/20/2023 at 11:55 PM, hammertime said:Haha ye got me Vintage.
He got me too .....
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16 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:
The winningest head coach in Canucks history to go along with multiple regular season records.
The whole Crow/AV era was such a fun ride!
too bad I started following the team during the Rick Ley/Tom Renney days ...
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4 minutes ago, 5nothincanucksohno said:
Are both Soucy and Cole LHD? Who plays right side...assume a trade is coning
on the other hand, the Canucks did not re-sign their RHDs Bear and Burroughs.
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21 hours ago, Pears said:
Not necessarily. Could sign him for cheaper as a ufa than we would have with his QO.
So I believe Allvin could have used the same approach for Boeser last year?
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This is very frustrating.
The OEL acquisition is Benning's fault, but for 2 years , they have extened Miller,Boeser,Kuzmenko and acquired Mikheyev and Hronik WITHOUT clearing significant cap space first!
That's on Allvin.
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It has to be the OEL trade because it happened in the salry cap era.
for the Nealy trade, you may say the assets that the Canucks aquired were less valuable than what the Bruins got.
for the OEL trade, the Canucks got NEGATIVE values from the acquisitions.
Not only they got the assets that have a lot less value than expected, the cap hits of OEL and Garland prevent the management to acquire other pieces to improve the team.
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On 6/9/2023 at 12:38 PM, Nucks89 said:
How long until we are competing with Vegas & Colorado?
When the Canucks keep being mediocre or below average(9th to 14th at the west), and when Vegas and COL both tank for rebuilding.
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If the management made up their mind that they're not gonna "rebuild" (like it or not), then I am fine with the Hronek acquisition.
And I believe that giving up a 1st round pick is pretty much a must
I just dont like the fact that, they also attached a 2nd to the deal, instead of sending some contracts/cap relief to the Wings.
When they traded Horvat, they eat back the Beau contract and retained 25% of Horvat. How come there's no money going back to the Wings for the Hronek deal? Why the management was ok for that deal when they knew they have huge cap problem?
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Most NHL teams have cap problem, and JR/PA succeeded some bad contracts, so I dont really mind.
The issue I have with the current management is that, they keep digging holes for themselves.
They had all the chances to trade at least one of Miller/Boeser/Garland since last seanson's TDL, but they did nothing fo those big contracts. I believe there was a market for Myers too.
Also, they were able to trade Bo, but why took back the Beuvillier contract? In comparison , they traded for Hronik without sending a contract away?
And they re-signed Kuzmenko without a moving away one or two contracts first?
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41 minutes ago, N4ZZY said:
Kravstov is a bust. only reason he goes back to the K, is because I think he feels like he might not be gifted a spot for him come training camp.
We don't need players that won't compete for spots. Kinda feels like he's a second coming of Goldobin. More talent, but same will. Just doesn't have it in him to thrive and flourish in the NHL.
but does the Canucks holds the right og Kravstov?
Even if the team doesnt want him, they can trade him for something
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On 5/23/2023 at 9:00 AM, qwijibo said:
No. It’ll be like when Tryamkin bolted back to the KHL. He’s gone for a minimum 2 years. Vancouver will still own his rights for a time, but that’s the extent of their involvement
so if Kravstov decides to come back to the NHL two years later, the Canucks still have the right for the player?
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Thr Myers' bnous won't be paid until September.
But by the time between the June Entry draft to Free Agency to September, most teams would already planned on how to spend the cap or already used up most of the cap.
There wont be too many teams having 6M cap space all of a sudden on Sept.
Young rebuilding teams like Arizona wont pick up a 30-yr old Dmen unless you attach prospects/picks to the deal.
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1 hour ago, Bounce000 said:
Did anyone try simply asking nicely if he can sell the team?
I believe someone from Houston would be interested.
There is no guarantee that the next owner is a local Canadian invester.
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My list:
Mogilny
Jeff BrownAucoin
Russ CourtnallOhlund
Cooke
Jovanovski
Walker
Auld
MitchellHM: Irbe
Also I was a fan of those fringe NHLers back in the days : Warriner, Kariya, Fedorov, Shannon , and maybe Hirsch, ... (not a big fan for Rory though
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Kind of suprised that there are so little love for Mogilny , Horvat and Naslund ...
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4 minutes ago, N4ZZY said:
Garland could be a buyout candidate. He’s kind of a player that’s in no man’s land. Doesn’t kill penalties. Isn’t on the power play. Doesn’t produce as much offense. No other team in the league seems to be interested in him either or else I suspect he would’ve been traded already.
Brock is kind of in the same boat except that at least he’s being used as a net front presence on PP1. I think they’re both gone this off-season. This off season I get the feeling is a major one for us.
I really hoped that the "major" offseason was the last one. Too bad it looked like the management refused to make big/bold moves without having their man behind the bench, and they kept patient instead.
There are three overused terms by this management group: CapSpace, Right-Handed Defencemen , and Patience.
They did nothing to improve the first part; it took 20 months to make one move for the second part; but man they do have patience for player transactions.
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On 3/27/2023 at 12:34 AM, KyGuy123 said:
I’m actually excited for Gavrikov in the off-season. He will really solidify the Defence and PK.
Why would Canucks fans be excited about signing UFA defenseman, with all the overpaid signings like Harmonic, Myers and Poolman...
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23 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:
They will probably use Hoglander as a sweetener, I agree. They need to dump at least one big contract in the summer, maybe two...
the team has too many wingers.
With the fact that they probably couldn't trade Pearson, and both Podkolzin and Hoglander need full time NHL spots (if they stay),the Canucks need to trade two of Boeser/Garland/Beauvillier
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Hits:
Dollar for dollar, Harmonic for a 3rd is the best deal they've made.
I still can't figure out how they could possibly pull this one off.
Misses:
The fact that Rutherford told us that, he didn't know Bruce was given a 2-yr deal still annoys me.
Was it his job to find out the basic backgound and status of the existing personnels who would be working under you during the interview?
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10 hours ago, BCNate said:
Job 1- Open up cap space prior to the draft
-Trade Myers, will require retention (2Mil) and not return much
-Trade Garland, might have to retain 1 mil to acquire a 2nd
-Trade Pearson, probably have to retain half for future considerations
-Trade Poolmans LTIR contract. I assume he is done, and someone will want the relief.
This opens up 12 million.
Job 2- Draft BPA
Job 3- Be active in the NCAA/Euro/Non qualified UFAs
Job 4- Sign our Players
-Re Sign- Wolanin, Juulsen, Burroughs, Di Guiseppe to two way deals, or they walk
-Re Sign Kravtsov, Bear to 1 way deals
-Dermott and Delia walk
UFA
-Sign Soucy to play with OEL
-Sign Graves to play with Hronek
-Sign an experienced back up that is on the tail end of their career to a shorter cheap deal ex. Quick, Andersen
-Sign the best defensive PK 3C we can get with our remaining $.
easy.
It's not easy.
How do you find takers for the likes of Pearson and Myers. Why NHL teams want them?
Also, It's not about how little the returns are for those players, it's about what the Canucks want to add to get rid of those players. Note that they traded two 2nd rd picks already this season.
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It''s not the same after 15 months ...
full article:
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“It's not the cycle we're in to trade high draft picks.”
“I want to be careful with our trades,” said Rutherford. “I don't want to trade draft picks, unless they're later round picks. It's not the cycle we're in to trade high draft picks.”
That recognition of where the Canucks are currently is key and one that the previous regime seemed to struggle with, pushing just to make the playoffs instead of maximizing a window of Cup contention.
Credit:
Daniel Wagner, vancouverisawesom.com
Dec 13, 2021
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On 3/4/2023 at 2:57 PM, N4ZZY said:
where do you see Högs slotting into the line up?
My guess for next year's line up:
Mikheyev - Pettersson - Kuzmenko
Kratsov - Miller - Podkolzin
Höglander - Dries - Boeser
Joshua - Åman - Studnika?
Hughes - Bear
Dermott - Hronek
OEL - Burroughs
Demko/Martin
Is that it? Assuming that Miller and Brock are still with the team come September.
I can't believe that Myers would be back in September. I think he's either traded, or bought out.
Buying out OEL would be way too costly for way too long.
I'm not sure if that's a playoff roster to be honest.
Dries is fine as a depth and call-up player, but I would be dissapointed if he makes the regular lineup next season as 3rd line centre (assuming he is still what he is at next season's training camp).
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[Trade] Beauviller to hawks for a 5th
in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Posted · Edited by The King of Kings
I just dont understand why JR/AV acquired him at first place.
I remember JR said he wanted a "roster player" in return for the BO deal , but an overpriced middle 6 winger is the last thing the team needs.