Lumme21

Yep. Or take back Derrick Brassard or Ausin Watson if nec

And that's exactly why as a UFA, he needs to be traded at the deadline.

I'd say just have several A's for a bit until Petey commits to staying or Bedard is ready (One can dream). My bet, as Management refused to see the gravity of the situation in front of them, is that they name Miller captain instead of trading him for the pieces they need to compete. Ie. Maybe the future captain should be who they get in a return for a Miller trade.

The talent bleed didn't just stop with Dylan Guenther. 3 right handed defenceman were taken after the 2nd round pick Vancouver traded last year as well (Mattias Havelid, Seasmus Casey, and Christian Kyrou). Any one of those 3 picks would instantly have been our best defensive prospect.

Are you still enamored with the OEL from the 2015/2016 season? Arizona wanted to move him because he was inefficient then already. OEL has been terrible this year, and is already woefully inefficient. That trade was terrible, but yet I would say the majority of people went along with the narrative that it was needed to shed the dead weight of Beagle, Roussel, and Loui. Those contracts only had 1 year remaining. So short sighted.

Ah, Miller's face off percentage is less then 50% not to mention the fact that the Canucks have to move him to wing as he is a defensive liability. Maybe people would believe that last year, but that balloon has popped.

And how would we then get the 2 right handed D men we need to be a cup contender? The penalty killing center man? I would have traded both Miller and Horvat last year, along with Boeser. Still would trade both, but Miller's value is tanked now with the extension.

I could see a team go after Ryan O'Reilly instead of Horvat - Oreilly's a Cup winner and penalty killer and likely be cheaper. I agree that Larkin will likely resign in Toronto. I think people are also overlooking the need to trade Horvat while he's scoring at the rate he is so that we don't finish just out of the playoffs. Trading him now may enable us to drop a couple points in the standings and that alone is worth a lot considering the quality of this draft.

Vancouver clearly missed an opportunity last year to rebuild by trading Miller, Horvat, Garland, Boeser etc at last years trade deadline. Clearly, we can't miss another opportunity to trade these pieces to get future assets to build a contender around, but I also believe we can't afford to wait until the TD. The trade value for Horvat in particular may never get better. By trading pieces now we help our chances to bottom out (tank) in one of the strongest drafts ever.. If we wait, teams looking to unload UFA's will take advantage of our management not wanting to make a bold move and we will be left on the sideline yet again. Getting business done now will help us secure a top 5 pick and a potential franchise piece such as Beddard, Michkov, Fantilli or Benson before players like Toews, Kane, O'Reilly and Teresenko flood the market. Another advantage of getting business done early would be the opportunity for management to clearly present a believable plan to the fan base to make this team a contender again, however I fear we will just move Schenn at the TD (similar to Motte last year) and continue to be sold the 'retool on the fly' BS.