Xanlet
-
Posts
404 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Events
Blogs
Gallery
Posts posted by Xanlet
-
-
3 minutes ago, Alflives said:
Plays choose US cities because they can live in complete anonymity. The tax laws up here are good for them because they play all over the US too. Plus living up here and being paid in US funds adds almost 30% to their cheque after conversion.
Did you listen to the clip? He gives a direct example of Radulov $31.25m over 5 years and he will save $4.4m on that contract in Dallas that he would have had to pay in taxes if that same contract were signed in Montreal. That's MASSIVE money. That's a salary cap handicap.
-
5 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said:
Thing is, a lot of average teams have dead cap. Minnesota lead the way and are still somehow competitive with bargain stars. However, look at the final top-4 of the last year's playoffs:
Vegas - no dead cap
Carolina - no dead cap
Dallas - no dead cap
Florida - like 1.2M dead cap for Yandle for a couple of years
Contending teams play to their fullest potential. Buying out OEL means we probably aren't going to fully contend any time soon, but we can be an average playoff team and get away with it.
That being said PA didn't have much of a choice, one of OEL or Myers had to go - I thought Myers would be the easier one to move but evidently not, so the buyout is the only way. In a year's time we'll have rid us of both the elephants which is fair play to PA, he can finally start from scratch.
Dallas and Florida have zero state income tax, which in reality translates to something like $10m extra cap space. If a team like Vancouver, which already has high local taxes, ALSO has dead cap, the team has a MASSIVE salary cap handicap. It's just extremely unlikely any success will come with that big of a disadvantage.
-
1
-
-
Just now, Alflives said:
Actually yes we can compete and we will. 105 points and a playoff run next season.
Next season is the only chance, but based on the recent record, it does not look like this team has the pieces, not to mention the team has traded away draft picks. Once again management has gone all in when the window really isn't open, and they've sacrificed the next 7 years to do it. And they just went all in 2 seasons ago sacrificing the future (which is now the present)! Gross mismanagement has basically ensured mediocrity for all of the 2020s. You can't constantly mortgage the future for the present, because they you are always struggling in the present because you mortgaged it in the past!
-
3
-
1
-
-
The team had Luongo's recapture penalty hampering their cap usage and just when the team was free from it they have OEL's buyout penalty for 8 more years. You can't compete in a league built for parity when you have cap penalties on top of high local income tax which causes players to demand over payment to ever sign here. The soonest window for the Canucks is 2031, assuming management doesn't add more albatrosses along the way. Zero point hoping for any success with this team in this decade.
-
1
-
-
This team won't be competitive now until the mid 2030s, great job management.
-
1 hour ago, babych said:
Ummm.. I'm pretty sure they didn't pick Stone or Eichel or Pietrangelo or Stephenson or Barbashev or .....
And before you say that they got Marchessault just remember that Florida basically begged Vegas to take him.
Vegas wasn't "gifted" anything. They picked wisely and took advantage of stupid GM's during the Expansion Draft. They then made aggressive trades and good signings and built a winner. They weren't afraid of making bold moves and moving on from contracts when needed.
It sure would be nice to have management/ownership that wasn't incompetent, unlike Vegas.
Management is determined by ownership, who will always care more about profit than hockey. Also, with the way the NHL is structured, there is profit sharing, which means it's directly in the interest of owners that the teams with weaker fan bases have an opportunity to grow their fan base. Vegas got a good team because it's in the owners' interest that they do well early and get a strong fan base going. This is why Canadian teams don't win championships, it's not in the financial interest of the owners for that to happen, so they structure everything in their power to rig it in a more financially desirable direction.
Do people think the owner of the Canucks doesn't understand how the cap works? Do people think the owner doesn't realize that constantly trying to win now means they will never build a proper team that can win? Vancouver isn't meant to win. The Canucks are a money printing machine despite a 53 year history of losing. Certain other teams, on the other hand, are constantly at risk of bankruptcy unless they win championships, and lo and behold! Those are the teams that end up winning championships. (Pittsburgh has multiple bankruptcies in it's history and literally couldn't pay Lemieux which is why he become owner as part of the bankruptcy proceedings, Chicago was heading for bankruptcy before the Kane and Toews era and would be at risk again but have conveniently won the draft "lottery" and can draft a generational talent at 1st overall, something Vancouver has never had in 53 years).
Once you look at the NHL through economic criteria, everything that happens makes way more sense. Always remember, the NHL is a for profit business enterprise. They have no allegiance to the spirit of the sport of to the integrity of hockey or any of that nonsense. They want money, and will only pay enough lip service to fairness to satisfy PR purposes, but not beyond that. Throw in this full push for sports gambling and it amounts to one of the biggest scam on Earth (even when Tim Peel is caught literally saying he stepped onto the ice intending to call a penalty against a specific team, people still put money on these games!). Friendly reminder though that the courts couldn't care less and throw everything back to the league to deal with (Dennis Wideman can end the career of an official, but the law will let the NHL handle it!).
-
1
-
-
You can't compete with a $7+m fringe defenseman on the books, so at the earliest 2027, unless, of course, management attempts to hurry this by sacrificing more assets to clear him from the books or takes on another albatross contract, if that happens then probably not until the 2030s
-
1
-
-
I've said it for years, if you financially support the team while they are in the basement, there is no incentive for ownership to improve the team. Take a look at many of the winning teams in the NHL (Pittsburgh and Chicago come to mine), they tend to be teams that go bankrupt or border on bankruptcy if they don't win championships regularly. This is a league wide problem, the very structure of the league itself is built to favor teams in certain locations (salary cap not taking income tax into account) to build fan bases and generate extra revenue in non-traditional market or weaker markets, whereas Canadian markets are permanent cash cows regardless of persistent failure and mediocrity.
-
As long as the cap does not take into account that income taxes are higher in BC than in Texas and Florida, we will always be in cap hell
-
Slumlord
Enjoy permanent mediocrity for inflated prices.
-
2
-
-
Ah yes, let's keep mortgaging extra years of future cap space to try and be as good as possible right now.... even though it's a losing battle because we're constantly fighting against when we mortgaged the present in the past! Genius!
-
1
-
1
-
-
16 minutes ago, iinatcc said:
Well it worked out for this guy though
Other teams are allowed to circumvent the cap with impunity. Go look at that contract, front loaded with 4 years of $1m salary at the end. Guess how it ended? He never played those last 4 years because he magically became allergic to his equipment, taking his cap hit off the books too!
Meanwhile Luongo retires too early and the league hammers Vancouver with a recapture penalty retroactively when they had originally approved the contract to begin with, AND he hadn't played in Vancouver for years!
-
2 hours ago, mikeyman109 said:
Hockey as all sports is a business and owners are in it to make money. They need playoff revenue to make money as contracts dont count in the playoffs and thats where ownership gets paid as well as when they sell the team. Missing the playoffs 8 out of 9 years its no wonder they want some of that money.
The NHL has pretty strong profit sharing policies among owners. In fact, I think it's in Aquilini's interest for teams with typically weaker fan bases to make the playoffs and attract new fans because those profits make their way to him via the NHL's policy. In other words, the NHL takes Canuck's fans' money for granted, whereas certain other franchises need success to have fans pay money.
-
1
-
-
Teams in this league live or die by cap usage, that's it. For Vancouver, the cap brings two big issues, first being that since taxes are so high here versus places like Florida, Vancouver always has to overpay free agents, limiting the number of good players they can get under the cap. Second, for almost a decade now the team has had at least one atrocious contract or cap penalty (Loui, the Luongo recapture penalty, and now OEL). Let's face it, OEL is NO WHERE NEAR a $7m+ player, therefore his cap hit severely hurts the team's competitiveness.
I'd say we just need to wait 4 years for OEL's contract to expire and then we can compete, but I thought that about the cap recapture penalty and LE's contract too, and this team seems to always find an albatross contract to hamper them permanently.
-
1
-
-
I was watching a random game the other day where the goalie was slow leaving the net on a delayed penalty and the commentator said "he should just be glad that JT Miller isn't his teammate". I swear, negative stories on the Canucks travel around the whole league at light speed.
-
1
-
2
-
1
-
-
100% depends on final cap hits. Colorado won the cup with MacKinnon on a $6.3m cap hit. Miller is already locked in at $8m forever, and all indications are that Bo wants more than 8, and Petey will probably want more than 9 when his contract is up. In short, yes you could win with this core on team friendly contracts, but none of them are willing to take a pay cut so we are assured of being mediocre for another 8 to 10 years. Welcome to the salary cap era.
-
1
-
-
Imagine daring to open your mouth when your home fans chanted "flopper" as a player lay on the ice with a broken back from a dirty hit your teammate threw. Gross.
-
Just now, Ghostsof1915 said:
Crying over spilt milk though. He's signed. Do what you can and move forward.
You have to learn from the past to improve in the future. Don't sign Boeser contracts. Don't sign Eriksson contracts. Don't trade for OEL contracts. Don't sign Beagle contracts. And on and on and on. Eventually the lesson needs to be learned.
-
1
-
-
Just now, Ghostsof1915 said:
So at $6.65 million you won't get anyone to take him. So what?
If he walked you'd be screaming bloody blue murder we got nothing out of him.
Boeser was a restricted free agent. If another team offered him even $6.2m they'd have to give Van a 1st round pick, a 2nd round pick, and a 3rd round pick. I would only match an offer under $4.2m because that's the only price point where we wouldn't get a 1st round pick in compensation, anything higher than that, just take the pick. Otherwise let him sit out and not play until he realizes his true market value and signs for an appropriate cap hit.
-
1
-
1
-
-
When will management/ownership learn that signing dumb contracts and then spending assets to get rid of those contracts will doom this team to permanent mediocrity? Pittsburgh signed Guentzel to 5 years at $6m per as a 40 goal scorer and a plus player, while Vancouver signs Boeser, a 29 goal scorer and a minus player to $6.65m per for 3 years. If you can't get a good value contract, let the player sit out or walk or trade their rights. Don't sign albatross contracts that you end up just waiting to expire
-
1
-
3
-
-
I'll throw this out there again, the Canucks will never win the cup while the salary cap is flat across all teams. The income tax in B.C. is VASTLY higher than in places like Florida or Texas, meaning for a free agent who is considering signing with Vancouver or one of those teams (Lightning, Panthers, Stars), Vancouver essentially has to raise their offer SUBSTANTIALLY in order for that player to get the same amount in their bank account at the end of the year. To the degree of Vancouver offering $6m and it having the same real income for the player as a $5m offer from those other teams. Take that and apply it to every dollar of the $80+ salary cap and the Canucks are in the neighborhood of a permanent $15m salary cap handicap disadvantage. It's why most Canucks contracts seem like over payments... BECAUSE THEY ARE! They have to to offset higher than average income tax! When the league is set up for "parity" it means every small difference can be the deciding factor between winning and losing, and this here is a MASSIVE difference.
-
The NHL is in real trouble. Who on earth wants to watch a trash product where a single missed call can leave a player bloody on the ice while the other team scores? And this is just standard operating in the league. Unacceptable.
-
1
-
-
Just now, Rubik said:
I love the skate jersey, they are fun... but that said, I'm not so sure it would be a great idea to bring it back full time. Imo it's too retro looking, like you can tell it really is a product of the late 80s/early 90s (same with the kachina jerseys down there in Arizona, and I bet those jerseys will be replaced yet again in the next 5 years for a more tasteful design)
Similarly, we too should aim for a more simple, timeless look. I really liked the West coast express era stick in rink alternatives, but many people say it's a boring look, so who knows.
The stick-in-rink is good for a shoulder patch but I don't like it as the main logo
-
1
-
2
-
-
Vancouver will never win the Cup while the cap is flat across all teams. Taxes cause players' take-home pay to be way lower in Canada than in places like Florida and Texas. Essentially The Panthers, Lightning, and Stars get over $15m of extra cap each and there is simply no way to overcome this level of handicap. It's unpopular to say this though cause no one wants to talk about it.
-
1
-
3
-
1
-
{Topic} Odds say Canucks miss playoffs
in Canucks Talk
Posted
And management decided to accept a multi-million dollar cap penalty for each of the next 7 years to go all in this year. See you guys in the 2030s.