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There was a lot of vitriol thrown at him, but it isn't his fault. Even if he doesn't have the upside of Nylander or Ehlers, he could end up as a better NHLer.
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Wow, is everyone else watching the Chicago stream? Their announcers are unbelievable homers.. Way worse than the Johns.
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No.
He's credited with surgically dismantling this team from championship-calibre to fringe-playoff team in 3 seasons - letting key UFAs leave (Torres, Ehrhoff, Salo, etc), losing both all-star calibre goaltenders (Luongo, Schneider) and almost trading away Kesler (now that Linden is at helm, we'll likely keep Kesler). The goal was to win now while re-tooling with young players to remain competitive like Detroit - Gillis failed. That's why he's gone.
While Gillis's draft picks (Horvat - by trading Schneider, Shinkaruk fell to our lap, Gaunce and Jensen were solid picks, late-round defensemen were good also) may have impact years from now, he did it at the cost of the present - so I would not give him credit when these guys start to play key roles on our team.
I think he will be (rightfully) blamed for the Canucks missing the playoffs this year, which seems to be what the majority of your post deals with. On the other hand, I think he should be given credit for where the Canucks will be in a couple of years. Tanev, Lack, Corrado, Cassels, Eriksson, Jensen, Gaunce, Schroeder, Kassian, etc. If they play big parts in the next generation of Canuck success... I don't see why he wouldn't get credit.
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I bet he wins a cup before we do.
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Garrison's (+/-) vs Current Playoff Teams:
2013/2014 to date, reverse order. Taken from the Canucks' website.
ANA -1
COL 0
TBL -1
STL 0
MTL 0
BOS -1
CHI -1
ANA -1
LAK 0
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9 games since he was (+) vs a playoff team.
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STL +1
PIT +2
ANA -2
LAK -3
TBL -1
PHI -1
CHI +1
BOS +2
COL +1
NYR 0
LAK -2
CHI 0
SJS 0
ANA -1
LAK -2
SJS 0
STL +2
PIT -2
PHI +1
SJS -2
SJS -1
So first off, the Canucks have only played 30 games (of 76) vs teams that are currently in a playoff position.
Garrison is -13 in these 30 games. In games that mean the most, and are allegedly used to show the best just where you and your team stand in this league, he is -13.
Some say the (+/-) stat is useless. But its not. Especially when its spread out over a whole season. It is rating of how you play 5 on 5, which is the bulk of every game. Some say, a guy just steps onto the ice, on a bad change, and get a (-) and its not fair. What about stepping onto the ice and your team scoring. Is this fair? It all evens out in the end when using a large sample size.
If you are going to use plus/minus, at least use +/-rel. What is the Canuck's overall 5 on 5 goal differential against playoff teams? What is Garrison's compared to that?
That will give you a more accurate picture.
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The honey baker finalists were released today, Hutton was not one of them.
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He also got 1st in the west for best face off man
I did say that...
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Horvat was named the second best defensive forward and best at faceoffs in his conference by the coaches.
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I bet this thread explodes in popularity as we fall further and further
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Fine. Imagine what your reaction would be if your team traded for a player you have absolutely zero respect for.
I don't lost all respect for a 19 year old doing everything he can to help his country win a gold.
If you thought you could help Canada win a gold medal by diving and you were on the WJC team... Many would do the same.
If he continues to do the same thing with the Canucks, sure. I choose to give him a chance though.
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^LOL to Kesler for Neal.
Neal is doing amazingly for Pitt. He is also a winger, which the Penguins need.
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Be prepared for Edler to win a Norris with Detroit, though.
That would happen.
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I don't think anything will happen, but I want it to.
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I think "enigmatic" isn't the best phrase. Underwhelming maybe.. But projections on draft quality often mean squat. I could see us moving up in this draft, especially if the unthinkable happens and Ekblad falls as far as Jones did.
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I didn't see that there were two goals.. Andthat first goal did not remind me of Kane in the slightest. E. Kane moreso than P. Kane.
That second one was nice though!
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No nothing's changed. Still to weak to play in the NHL, let lone AHL. Definitely not worth making a 2nd round selection on, but the Canucks were talking about taking him with their 1st round selection. Good Lord. Does anyone really believe this garbage drafting will ever improve? We as fans should stand up and DEMAND better drafting.
Or you could "wake up" and realize that the Canucks are entertainment.
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Guessing Weber/Diaz battle for the 6th spot. Unless Webs is out long term which would be unfortunate.
Also, it probably means Weise lost his spot on a healthy (minus Santorelli) Canucks team.
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Good asset management by Gillis. Grabbed Weise off waivers and traded him for a legitimate defensemen.
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Remember to vote for the honey baker award!!
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I was hoping to wait until I had more space but I might have to pick this guy up in my (20 player. 30 prospect per team) hockey pool soon.
What a season so far.
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Don't swing too far the other way. I doubt he fully puts it together this year or next. And I've been saying that all along.
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I don't see where this "On of Canada's best" is coming from. When he has had space he has made some pretty great plays, but it's pretty obvious that he is being hampered by injury.
Canada's best?
Droun, Dumba, Fucale and Ekblad would be my choices, no particular order. Ekblad is a beast.
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you have LaBate listed as LeBate.... and I don't really do fantasy hockey, so I couldn't comment on a fantasy based ranking, but that's not how I'd rank our prospects in terms of current performance/future likelihood to make the NHL, but opinions are like a-holes, everyone's got one, and they all stink.
Well that's embarrassing..
I'll fix that right away, I didn't write his profile but I should have noticed.
What would your top 10 be then? Based on quickness to production, offensive upside and certainty. 100% sure third liners don't make it, unless they get massive hit totals (Archibald).
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I really like this.
He played for Green in junior and attributed a lot of his success there to the confidence and support that he got from his coaches there. I think he will fit in with Green and WD both.
Ton of upside, 2011 11th overall pick. Much better chance of success than ~50th overall pick.