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1 minute ago, Alflives said:
You’re suggesting the club offered Petey the captaincy and he said no. Clearly the team didn’t offer him the role. He was speculating on what his response would be if the role was offered. He said he would need to think about it over the summer.
I'm suggesting they asked if he'd be interested because I'd be shocked if they didn't. (I'm sure they talked to Hughes before too. Because of course they did.) And I think he likely said no for whatever reason (not ready to commit long-term or, like Tocchet said in an interview about him still being too uncomfortable talking with teammates off the ice, whatever.)
But you're free to think whatever you want.
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Just now, Alflives said:
Again you’re quoting an article (interview) from soon after Bo was traded. Clearly the club wasn’t going to name a captain quickly after moving on from Bo. It’s Petey answering a question the best he can in a language that isn’t the one he uses most. He simply got his verb tense mixed up. The club didn’t offer him the Captaincy. He meant if they did he’d need to think about it. He expected the decision about the club choosing a Caotain to happen over the summer.
Sure, Alf.
If it makes more sense to you that the team wouldn't bother to talk to one of our main guys about whether or not he'd want the job, especially if they thought it might factor into his decision to re-sign, have at it.
I mean, it's insulting to both the team and Petey, but okay.
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1 minute ago, Alflives said:
Nope. You’re wrong. Petey is new to English. That’s a fact. His comment, that you’re using as evidence to stir up trouble, showed he’s an English as a second language speaker. The Captaincy wasn’t offered. If it was he said he would need to take time to consider it. This interview you’re quoting took place very soon after we traded Bo. Clearly the club wasn’t making the Captaincy decision at that point.
There is your problem.
How exactly am I trying to "stir up trouble" when I'm literally saying it's not a big deal and they made the right choice? So what trouble? For whom?
And no one said they had made a decision, but that doesn't mean they didn't talk to him about whether or not he'd be interested. We know they talked to Bo about whether or not he was interested in the C long before it was offered. It's not unusual or controversial.
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3 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:
Merely your assumption at this point. Unless Pettersson came out and stated that he was offered the captaincy and turned it down, you have no proof.
Pettersson was thinking about the question asked of him in the interview. That's it. There is no mention of a formal or informal offer of the captaincy in that, or any other, article.
I generally don't understand how people can make things up in their mind and try to pass it off as fact.
Okay.
Whatever works for you.
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1 minute ago, Alflives said:
Petey, because of his newness to English, made a mistake in verb tense. He wasn’t offered the Captaincy. The club only decided the Captain during the summer. If offered to him, he would consider it, is what Petey meant.
You are making assumptions based on your assumption that Petey's English is too poor to understand conversations he had.
It makes far more sense that they talked to him about the captaincy and asked him to think over whether or not he would accept it. His answer likely factored in significantly to their decision.
Again, I genuinely don't get why people are being weird about it. Asking people if they'd even want a position like this is probably pretty standard.
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1 minute ago, 86Viking said:
You can't give the C to a guy that chose NOT to sign a long term extension this summer. Clearly EP is being very calculated, wants to see where team is (makes sense) but also knows and is being to by his agents that put up a similar or better year this season and watch your AAV exceed 12m annually.
If JT wasn't so fiery he likely would have gotten the C. But at the same time if they gave JT the C maybe EP would choose to walk, think there will always be some friction between EP and JT AND that can be a good thing if they are pushing eachother to be and get better. It can also backfire in a BIG way and have EP asking for a trading next off season.
True! And that may have been a big factor. The team certainly doesn't want the embarrassment of losing another captain so soon. Even if he wanted it, I don't know if they would have given it to him if he wasn't willing to commit long-term. And frankly, fair enough.
I agree also about JT, and for that reason I'm glad he didn't get it. (I was worried he would.) If Petey didn't want it, be it the C in general or a longer term commitment to this team, then Hughes was definitely the next best choice. He's a franchise player, high compete, level headed, and young enough he can hopefully serve in the position for years. He's a good choice.
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19 minutes ago, Alflives said:
Not offered though. Petey isn’t a first language English speaker.
His grasp of English is good enough to understand the situation. And he certainly knows more than we do about the conversations he'd had. And he said that he was thinking it over.
5 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:The fact that he was thinking about it is no indication of whether it was offered.
Of course it is. People rarely say they will think over things they aren't being offered.
I genuinely don't understand why some people need to be so contrary.
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50 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:
Or maybe it wasn't offered to Pettersson at all.
It was widely reported that he was thinking it over during the summer. I think everyone knows it was his if he wanted it.
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/pettersson-not-rushing-canucks-captaincy
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I'm guessing that means Petey turned it down. And that is okay. You don't have to wear the C to be part of the leadership group.
Congrats, Huggy! You're going to do a great job!
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What's with baby Dahmer behind him?
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Just now, greenbean30 said:
He would've been gone all alone, and no one was going to catch him. That's the rule, though you don't see it called that far out often.
I don't know about that. Penalty sure, but penalty shot? No.
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A penalty shot called in the neutral zone?
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Photo of Bruins leadership:
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Boston never changes. The second things aren't going their way they turn into toddlers having a temper tantrum.
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"Stop high sticking yourself."
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Just now, -NucksFan said:
Flamucks ?
Few extra letters, but sure.
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Calgary has so many ex-Canucks they're like the Faux Nucks, or the.... Well, you can figure it out.
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Did Petey just hint he's been offered the "C" but wants to think it over over the summer?
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Me watching almost every game this season:
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So nice of the refs to be worried about our draft pick.
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[Report] Canucks name Quinn Hughes as captain
in Canucks Talk
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Actually that was my second post (in response to someone else's response to my first post.) You even reacted to my first post.
And I still stand by everything I said. Sorry to hear your version of what I've said is bugging you so much.