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For all the talk comparing Reinbacher to Seider (I don't see it personally, Seider is a physical freak), am I wrong to see some similarities to Simashev and Simon Edvinsson as a prospect?
Both are big LHD defensemen with good hands and skating ability (especially for their size). Both have had production concerns, but have shown promise of more.Edvinsson looks on track to be a top-pairing D...is Simashev really that different? If he wasn't Russian, he's a top-10 pick (#9 on my board...FYI, Edvinsson went #6 in a weaker class).
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1 hour ago, HighOnHockey said:
This was great. Solid list, nice little writeups, and some decent comparisons. Regarding the bolded - this year is easily the most difficulty I've had trying to make a list since at least 2020. If we include the Russians there's upwards of 20 players I just can't imagine leaving out of my top 15. In 2020 I had about 16-18 such players. Such a strong draft class this year. Not quite in the all-time great strata with a 2003 or 2015, but definitely looks to be in the upper echelon of recent drafts.
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it! I definitely agree with the quality of this class - it has an extremely high top-end...5 guys that clearly project as elite players imo - while also having high-end depth. I'm in the same boat as you in that I think the top~20 prospects could all be serious impact players worthy of a lottery pick. I'm very excited for next week!
Who are your hopefuls for the Canucks?
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Hi all,
Below are my final rankings for the 1st round of the 2023 draft.
It is a good year to have a top-20 pick, with a number of projectable difference-makers. The first round has a few more boom-or-bust prospects than usual, and honestly the grouping from 6-20 could go any way. This is not a mock draft, but if you do have any questions on where I think certain guys end up, let me know!
Brief stylistic comparisons and projections included here:
Spoiler2023 1st Round Draft Rankings
Player - Position - Potential - Point Projection - Stylistic Comparable - Notes
1. Bedard - C - Top-5 player - 100+ points - Joe Sakic mixed with Patty Kane - Dynamic sniper, sneaky edgework, elite skill.
2. Michkov - RW - Top-5 goalscoer - 100+ points - Nikita Kucherov - Intelligent, high-skilled player who excels at darting into space in the offensive zone. Can score from anywhere. Potential 50 goal scorer.
3. Fantilli - C - Top-10 centre - 90+ points - Jonathan Toews - High-end physical tools + aggressive + solid hockey sense.
4. Carlsson - C/LW - Top-10 centre - 90+ points - Filip Forsberg - High degree of drive + skill. Uses his body to protect the puck very well. I do think he will be a C in the NHL.
5. Smith - C - #1 centre - 80+ points - Trevor Zegras - Creative, controls the pace of the game, which can sometimes cause him to look slow. Can lack on defensive effort, but is an offensive wizard.
6. Benson - LW/RW - Play-driving 1st line winger - 80+ points - Brayden Point - Workhorse with high-end skill. Above average straight-line speed, but elite edges. Small, but tenacious.
7. Leonard - RW/C - Complementary 1st line winer - 70 points - Zach Parise - Elite motor, high-end shot and puck skills. Good two-way player who plays like a smaller power forward.
8. Reinbacher - RD - #2-3 defenceman - 40 points - Alex Pietrangelo - Above-average puck skills. Very good distance passer and decision maker. Above average skater with room to improve pivots. Great reach and overall defensive play.
9. Simashev - LD - #2-3 shutdown defenceman - 25 points - K'Andre Miller - Big shutdown defenceman with a good stick, above average skating & physicality, and some offensive upside. Potential the best defensive player in the draft.
10. Dvorsky - C - High-end #2 centre - 60 points - Bo Horvat - Advanced defensive game, great shot, but needs time to get it off. Above average puck skills. Heavy feet, but ok speed once he gets going.
11. Moore - C - High-end #2 centre - 60 points - Dylan Larkin - Best skater in the draft, with a willingness to play inside the dots. Good puck skills and passing. Above average hockey IQ.
12. Barlow - LW - 1st/2nd line power forward - 60 points - Mason McTavish - High-end shot and physical tools. Plays a direct game with above-average skating. Above-average hockey IQ, but probably won't be the primary creator on his line.
13. Wood - LW - 1st line power forward or bust - 75+ points or bust - Jason Robertson - High-end tools, including shot, size, and puck skills. Incredibly intelligent player. Below-average acceleration and average top speed. Skating could limit his upside, or he could become the next Jason Robertson.
14. Willander - RD - #3-4 two-way defenceman - 30 points - Anton Stralman - Very efficient player with good mobility, decision-making, and passing. Isn't flashy, but always seems to make the right play. Could improve his
15. Danielson - C - #2 two-way centre - 50 points - Anthony Cirelli - Prototypical two-way #2C. Very responsible player who is a jack of all trades. Good, but not great at everything.
16. Perrault - RW - Complimentary 1st line winger - 60 points - Jake Guentzel - Not the biggest or the fastest, but the hockey IQ is near the top of the class, and he has good skill. Wide spread on this player, but he's too smart to fail.
17. Yager - C/W - 2nd line sniper - 55 points - Mike Hoffman - Great shot and good skating, but plays a bit too much on the perimeter, leading to inconsistencies in creating. Average/above-average hockey IQ.
18. Sandin-Pellikka - RD - Offensive #3 defenceman or bust - 50+ points - Quinn Hughes - Elite skater, including great four-way mobility. Play-driver from the backend, with good vision and passing. Typically good decision-making; prone to some lapses. Average defensively.
19. Honzek - C/LW - 2nd line powerforward - 50 points - Danius Zubrus - Plus size and above-average skating. Doesn't shy away from the middle of the ice, especially the front of the net. Can be inconsistent and needs to work on his defensive play.
20. But - LW - Top-6 power forward or bust - 50+ points or bust - Evgeni Malkin - Massive physical player with good puck skills and a hard, but inaccurate shot. He's very raw, and has an awkward stride that doesn't generate much power, leading to poor acceleration but decent top speed. Honestly could go anywhere from 10-50.
21. Cristell - LW - Complementary 1st line winger or bust - 75+ points or bust - Claude Giroux - Elite puck skills, highly creative. Fantastic passer with a great shot. One of the best players in the offensive zone, though he can force plays. Good edges but average separation and top speed.
22. Brindley - RW - 2nd line pest - 50 points - Brad Marchand - Tenacious player with a high-end motor and good puck skills. Great at puck retrievals and keeping plays alive in the offensive zone.
23. Stenburg - C - #2 two-way centre - 50+ points - Philip Danault - Good two-way player with above-average skating and hands. Likes the puck on his stick and excels in transition. Plus shot from range.
24. Heidt - LW/C - 2nd line playmaker - 55 points - Nick Schmaltz - Great passer and playdriver from the centre or wing. Good mobility, especially carrying the puck in transition. He has high-end hockey IQ, and should play C at the next level. Despite low goal totals, he is a good one-timer option on the PP.
25. Musty - LW - Top-6 playmaker or bust - 55+ points or bust - Benoit Pouliot - Above-average individual skill, creativity, and vision. Struggles with inconsistency, physicality, and skating - especially his acceleration.
26. Ritchie - C - #2 two-way centre - 50 points - Ryan O'Reilly - Above average in everything except average skating.
27. Sale - RW - 1st line offensive winger or bust - 65+ points or bust - Taylor Hall - Great individual puck skills and speed. More of a playmaker, but has a good shot - needs to use it more. Very inconsistent - can disappear for games at a time and then look like the best player on the ice.
28. Gulyayev - LD - #4 offensive defenceman or PP specialist - 50+ points - Tyson Barrie - Elite skater with high-end offensive tools, including stickhandling and passing in the offensive zone. Loves to join the rush, and can get back due to his elite speed. In-zone defending and strength need improvement.
29. Sawchyn - C - Middle-six energy forward - 45 points - JG Pageau - High-end motor and good passing, especially in tight spaces. He's a tenacious forechecker who can play higher in the lineup due to his hockey IQ and good skill base, though may be limited by his size.
30. Lindstein - LD - #4 two-way defenceman - 30 points - Henri Jokiharju - Smooth skating defender with a big shot, but can struggle under pressure with his decision-making.
31. Ziemmer - RW - Top-6 power forward - 50 points - Timo Meier - Excellent at using his size to protect the puck and drive the net. Has a great shot, good IQ and passing ability, but can lack explosiveness.
32. Gauthier - RW - Middle-six pest - 40 points - Mike Richards - Good motor, especially on the forecheck. He is relentless, and an intelligent two-way player. Average skating and skills limit upside, but he's hard to play against.
Takeaways from my previous Spring ranking:
- I've come around on Simashev...he's right up there with Reinbacher as best D in the draft. Both could be complementary 1st pair guys (#2D), or safely carry a 2nd pair (#3D) at worst.
- Willander continues to rise. He's easily projectable as a middle-pair dman, probably a #3D, and will get drafted top-15 if not top-10. Floor is close to the other top D, but lacks upside.
- Still high on Benson. Guy screams intelligent two-way player. Whoever gets him in the late top-10 or early teens will get a steal.
- Honzek and But will go higher than I have them ranked. I like both prospects and they could be argued anywhere after 10/11/12 in my opinion.
Bonus: Canuck candidates (in order of how I'd pick them for the team): Benson, Simashev, Moore, Willander, Barlow, Wood.
Who do you want the Canucks to draft? Looking forward to the discussion!
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Just now, Alflives said:
Benson or Reinbacher?
We need a high-end RHD, but Benson is the better prospect for sure. I know the Canucks don't really need any more prospects on the wing, but drafting for need isn't a good recipe for success. I'd love either though!
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Hi all,
Posting my rankings for the 1st round of the 2023 draft for feedback and discussion.
I'm curious as to what CDC thinks about the 2023 first round. Pre-draft, it's looking like one of the best I can remember, with absolute franchise/elite players at the top, and first-line players available well into the middle of the round. It's a good year to have a 1st (or two... :/).
Brief stylistic comparisons and projections included here - let me know what you think!:
Spoiler2023 1st Round Draft Rankings:
Player - Position - Potential - Point Projection - Stylistic Comparable - Notes
1. Bedard - C - Top-5 player - 100+ points - Joe Sakic mixed with Patty Kane - Dynamic sniper, sneaky edgework, elite skill.
2. Michkov - RW - Top-5 goalscoer - 100+ points - Nikita Kucherov - Intelligent, high-skilled player who excels at darting into space in the offensive zone. Can score from anywhere. Potential 50 goal scorer.
3. Fantilli - C - Top-10 centre - 90+ points - Jonathan Toews - High-end physical tools + aggressive + solid hockey sense.
4. Carlsson - C/LW - Top-10 centre - 90+ points - Filip Forsberg - High degree of drive + skill. Uses his body to protect the puck very well.
5. Smith - C - #1 centre - 80+ points - Trevor Zegras - Creative, controls the pace of the game, which can sometimes cause him to look slow. Can lack on defensive effort, but is an offensive wizard.
6. Benson - LW/RW - Play-driving 1st line winger - 80+ points - Brayden Point - Workhorse with high-end skill. Above average straight-line speed, but elite edges. Small, but tenacious.
7. Reinbacher - RD - Top-pair defenceman - 40 points - Alex Pietrangelo - Above-average puck skills. Very good distance passer and decision maker. Above average skater with room to improve pivots. Great reach and overall defensive play.
8. Leonard - RW/C - Complementary 1st line winer - 70 points - Zach Parise - Elite motor, high-end shot and puck skills. Good two-way player who plays like a smaller power forward.
9. Moore - C - High-end #2 centre - 65 points - Dylan Larkin - Best skater in the draft, with a willingness to play inside the dots. Good puck skills and passing. Above average hockey IQ.
10. Dvorsky - C - High-end #2 centre - 60 points - Anze Kopitar - Advanced defensive game, great shot, but needs time to get it off. Above average puck skills. Heavy feet, but ok speed once he gets going.
11. Cristell - LW - Complementary 1st line winger or bust - 75+ points or bust - Claude Giroux - Elite puck skills, highly creative. Fantastic passer with a great shot. One of the best players in the offensive zone, though he can force plays. Good edges but average separation and top speed.
12. Sandin-Pellikka - RD - Offensive #3 defenceman - 50+ points - Quinn Hughes - Elite skater, including great four-way mobility. Play-driver from the backend, with good vision and passing. Typically good decision-making; prone to some lapses. Average defensively.
13. Barlow - LW - 1st/2nd line power forward - 60 points - Mason McTavish - High-end shot and physical tools. Plays a direct game with above-average skating. Above-average hockey IQ, but probably won't be the primary creator on his line.
14. Wood - 1st line power forward or bust - 75+ points or bust - Jason Robertson - High-end tools, including shot, size, and puck skills. Incredibly intelligent player. Below-average acceleration and average top speed. Skating could limit his upside, or he could become the next Jason Robertson.
15. Perrault - Complimentary 1st line winger - 60 points - Jake Guentzel - Not the biggest or the fastest, but the hockey IQ is near the top of the class, and he has good skill. Wide spread on this player, but he's too smart to fail.
16. Yager - 1st/2nd line sniper - 60 points - Mike Hoffman - Great shot and good skating, but plays a bit too much on the perimeter, leading to inconsistencies in creating. Average/above-average hockey IQ.
17. Danielson - #2 two-way centre - 50 points - Anthony Cirelli - Prototypical two-way #2C. Very responsible player who is a jack of all trades. Good, but not great at everything.
18. Sale - RW - 1st line offensive winger or bust - 65+ points or bust - Taylor Hall - Great individual puck skills and speed. More of a playmaker, but has a good shot - needs to use it more. Very inconsistent - can disappear for games at a time and then look like the best player on the ice.
19. Heidt - LW/C - 2nd line playmaker - 55 points - Nick Schmaltz - Great passer and playdriver from the centre or wing. Good mobility, especially carrying the puck in transition. He has high-end hockey IQ, and should play C at the next level. Despite low goal totals, he is a good one-timer option on the PP.
20. Simashev - LD - #3-4 shutdown defenceman - 25 points - Jonas Siegenthaler - Big shutdown defenceman with a good stick, above average skating & physicality, and some offensive upside. Potential the best defensive player in the draft.
21. Brindley - 2nd line pest - 50 points - Brad Marchand - Tenacious player with a high-end motor and good puck skills. Great at puck retrievals and keeping plays alive in the offensive zone.
22. Honzek - C/LW - 2nd line powerforward - 50 points - Danius Zubrus - Plus size and above-average skating. Doesn't shy away from the middle of the ice, especially the front of the net. Can be inconsistent and needs to work on his defensive play.
23. Willander - RD - #3-4 two-way defenceman - 30 points - Anton Stralman - Very efficient player with good mobility, decision-making, and passing. Isn't flashy, but always seems to make the right play. Could improve his
24. Ritchie - C - #2 two-way centre - 50 points - Ryan O'Reilly - Above average in everything except average skating.
25. Stenburg - C - #2 two-way centre - 50+ points - Philip Danault - Good two-way player with above-average skating and hands. Likes the puck on his stick and excels in transition. Plus shot from range.
26. Gulyayev - LD - #4 offensive defenceman - 50+ points - Tyson Barrie - Elite skater with high-end offensive tools, including stickhandling and passing in the offensive zone. Loves to join the rush, and can get back due to his elite speed. In-zone defending and strength need improvement.
27. Sawchyn - C - Middle-six energy forward - 45 points - JG Pageau - High-end motor and good passing, especially in tight spaces. He's a tenacious forechecker who can play higher in the lineup due to his hockey IQ and good skill base, though may be limited by his size.
28. Musty - LW - Top-6 playmaker or bust - 55+ points or bust - Benoit Pouliot - Above-average individual skill, creativity, and vision. Struggles with inconsistency, physicality, and skating - especially his acceleration.
29. Ziemmer - RW - Top-6 power forward - 50 points - Timo Meier - Excellent at using his size to protect the puck and drive the net. Has a great shot, good IQ and passing ability, but can lack explosiveness.
30. Lindstein - LD - #4 two-way defenceman - 30 points - Henri Jokiharju - Smooth skating defender with a big shot, but can struggle under pressure with his decision-making.
31. But - LW - Top-6 power forward or bust - 50+ points or bust - Evgeni Malkin - Massive physical player with good puck skills and a hard, but inaccurate shot. He's very raw, and has an awkward stride that doesn't generate much power, leading to poor acceleration but decent top speed. Honestly could go anywhere from 10-50.
32. Gauthier - RW - Middle-six pest - 40 points - Mike Richards - Good motor, especially on the forecheck. He is relentless, and an intelligent two-way player. Average skating and skills limit upside, but he's hard to play against.
Note: This is not a mock draft. If I'm the Canucks, my realistic targets are Reinbacher, Moore, Leonard, Sandin-Pellikka, or Wood, probably in that order.
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THN future watch had Ehlers ranked at 4 and Virtanen at 15.
You wanna PM me that list...
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I like this idea a lot
Kesler for Etem and OTT's 1st
then with 2 picks in the top 10 -12 we could move those 2 picks and move up in the draft to see if we could get ekblad (although I worry he will just be a victor hedman)
"Just" another Hedman? That would be fantastic if he could be! Hedman is a huge 2-way dman who is already top-2 on most teams, great defensively and finally tapping into his offensive potential. I would put him on par, or maybe slightly lower with our own Dan Hamhuis.
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Anyone interested in a more in depth analysis of the upcoming draft please check out my latest blog entry (it's on CDC). I'm relatively new to blogging but would like to get into it more. All feedback is appreciated, and sorry for the plug!
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Don't know if anyone's interested but I'm simming tomorrow.
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The league will be re-opening next Saturday(9 days) for people still interested. I'm sorry that I left it inactive, but I had midterms then only 1 week break and then finals. I have finished my last exam today, but am in Palm Springs for the next week and won't be returning until next Saturday.
If there is still interest in this league, I will pass on the Commish powers to somebody who is willing next Saturday after I sim, as I know my schedule can get busy and I cannot always be reliable.
Hopefully we can get this thing back on track, or perhaps start a new league.
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Edler+Gaunce+1st for Kane would be perfect...if Winnipeg needed d men.
Therefore, our best offer to them would be something like Hansen+Gaunce+1st, which Winnipeg should reject.
Maybe Winnipeg would consider Kassian+Gaunce+1st? But I would hate to give up on a 22 year old Kassian already, especially if he turns into a 50+ point forward and Kane caps out with around 70 points/year.
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Can't connect to servers.
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I haven't been able to connect to EA servers:(. I'll try again in a bit.
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Sim delayed until tomorrow night, probably late like 11-12ish. Too many people have unfinished games and I can't sim atm either. Sorry for the delay.
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Which game? Canucks play tomorrow and I will be unable to sim then because I'm going to it:)!
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Simming tonight.
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You can't accept CPU trades , or trade with them. Please send them all back, I'll be checking!
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You did not trade Vanek yet.
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Toronto, you wanna tell me why you traded for Florida's 1st, Hertl, and Wiercoich, all from CPU teams??
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Let's play JP, just it home.
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Chi trade block:
One of Hjalmarsson/both Schultz for a top-6 forward
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I rejected all the CPU trades...there were a lot:/. I'll accept NYR back when I get home. I'm also open for trade.
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Offseason simming is so slow...currently Augusst 27-31. Should be at the season soon.
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Simming to season. Hopefully they have another wave of player development like they do in GM mode.
2023 NHL Entry Draft
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Love the draft discourse, I always find it interesting how opinions can vary so much on the same players.
For example, I'm not the biggest Dvorsky fan, but I know that he will go top-10 for sure, and I am terrified of Sale. All the skill in the world but no drive imo.
Thanks for your insight! Ryan Fine is on my late-round target board too.