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4 hours ago, Warhippy said:
Because I like information.
You're quite defensive for merely being asked about your position and if you'd provide more information to support it.
Well why are you so upset by the information I posted? Why do I have to interpret the data for you? Are you unable to do so for yourself? What I posted wasnt an opion it was facts brought to you by the b.c center for disease control. You say you like information but it seems like you only like information that supports your point of view. I posted it because that information use to be posted with the other covid numbers on this thread until a couple months ago. I wonder why it isnt anymore........... It was hard to find so I posted it for other people who want to see it.
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1 minute ago, Warhippy said:
You assume I am triggered because I am asking you a simple question?
Fascinating.
Where is the rest of the data? not the cherry picked agenda driven screen shot you posted with zero defining information. What is your screen shot in support of? What are you getting at?
Asking questions is not "triggered" it is sourcing out information and coming to conclusions (not jumping to them)
So, what are you getting at?
You asked me what I was saying then said It was obvious. If its so obvious to you then why asked the question?
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11 hours ago, Warhippy said:
What are you saying exactly here?
I mean it's obvious but try harder than a screen grab of an overall far larger statement and make the point you're so dying to
Why are you so triggered by data?
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Just now, King Heffy said:
Read what I said more clearly. Ask someone you know with a good understanding of math if you still don't understand.
I understand just fine
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Just now, King Heffy said:
Just over a third of the hospitalizations unvaxxed, which is higher than the percentage of unvaccinated people in the general population. The antivaxxers seem to struggle with both science and math.
And if 3x as many are vaxxed how well is that vax working? So you want not give medical attention to them but give it to the people that have 2 shots that obviously didnt work?
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8 minutes ago, King Heffy said:
The people waiting to get surgery because ICU beds are being wasted on antivaxxers would disagree. I'll agree to end the mandates if it means the unvaccinated by choice safe ineligible to recieve any kind of medical treatment for covid.
334 people with no vax in hospitals
931 people fully vaxxed in hospitals.
You act like if we had a 100% vax rate that nobody would be hospitalized.
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931 people 70.1 %
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5 minutes ago, 4petesake said:
Where do I find the source for this 70% stat?
Here is the most recent BC hospitalization numbers posted here yesterday.
Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Jan. 11-24)
- Not vaccinated: 85.2
- Partially vaccinated: 51.4
- Fully vaccinated: 20.0
Right above the part you just posted
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20 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:
B.C COVID-19 pandemic update:
As of Wednesday, Jan. 26, 2022, 89.7% (4,468,955) of eligible people five and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 83.6% (4,168,816) have received their second dose.
In addition, 92.6% (4,292,190) of eligible people 12 and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine, 89.9% (4,167,373) received their second dose and 42.2% (1,954,292) have received a third dose.
Also, 93.0% (4,020,604) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose, 90.4% (3,908,772) received their second dose and 45.1% (1,952,678) have received a third dose.
B.C. is reporting 2,086 new cases of COVID-19, for a total of 316,873 cases in the province.
Note: The numbers of total and new cases are provisional due to a delayed data refresh and will be verified once confirmed.
There are 30,058 active cases of COVID-19 in the province, and 282,189 people who tested positive have recovered. Of the active cases, 949 COVID-positive individuals are in hospital and 136 are in intensive care. The remaining people are recovering at home in self-isolation.
The new/active cases include:
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780 new cases in Fraser Health
- Total active cases: 12,776
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464 new cases in Vancouver Coastal Health
- Total active cases: 6,873
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455 new cases in Interior Health
- Total active cases: 7,434
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168 new cases in Northern Health
- Total active cases: 1,186
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219 new cases in Island Health
- Total active cases: 1,781
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no new cases of people who reside outside of Canada
- Total active cases: eight
In the past 24 hours, 21 new deaths have been reported, for an overall total of 2,575.
The new deaths include:
- Fraser Health: 10
- Vancouver Coastal Health: six
- Island Health: five
There have been five new health-care facility outbreaks at Cascade Lodge, Mountain View Manor, Queen's Park Care Centre, Royal City Manor (Fraser Health) and Victoria General Hospital (Island Health). The outbreaks at MSA Manor, Evergreen Baptist Care Society, New Vista Care Centre (Fraser Health), Brocklehurst Gemstone (Interior Health), Sidney All Care, Luther Court and Sidney Care Home (Island Health) have been declared over, for a total of 61 facilities with ongoing outbreaks, including:
long-term care:
- George Derby Centre, Hilton Villa Seniors Community, Mayfair Senior Living + Care, Menno Hospital, Buchanan Lodge, St. Michael’s Centre, Eden Care Centre, Lakeshore Care Centre, Baillie House, Bevan Lodge, Cascade Lodge, Mountain View Manor, Queen's Park Care Centre, Royal City Manor (Fraser Health);
- Evergreen House, Louis Brier Home and Hospital (Vancouver Coastal Health);
- Sun Pointe Village, Lakeview Lodge, Hamlets in Vernon, Heritage Square, Village at Smith Creek, Westview Place, Pinegrove Care Centre, Mariposa Gardens, Joseph Creek Care Village, Hamlets at Penticton, Mount Ida Mews (Interior Health);
- Amica Douglas House, Eden Gardens, Glenwarren Lodge, Kiwanis Village Lodge, Saanich Peninsula Hospital - Long Term Care, Oyster Harbour, Dufferin Place, Beacon Hill Villa, Salvation Army Sunset Lodge, James Bay Care Centre, Veterans Memorial Lodge, Sunset Lodge, Eagle Ridge Manor, Sunrise of Victoria, Comox Valley Seniors Village, Fir Park Village, The Summit, Parkwood Court, Echo Village, Mount St. Mary Hospital, Arrowsmith Lodge and Chartwell Malaspina Care Residence (Island Health)
acute care:
- Surrey Memorial Hospital, Abbotsford Regional Hospital, Langley Memorial Hospital, Laurel Place, Burnaby Hospital, Peace Arch Hospital, CareLife Fleetwood, Queen's Park Care Centre (Fraser Health);
- Kelowna General Hospital (Interior Health);
- Royal Jubilee Hospital and Victoria General Hospital (Island Health)
assisted or independent living:
- Crestview Village (Interior Health)
From Jan. 18-24, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 28.2% of cases. From Jan. 11-24, they accounted for 29.9% of hospitalizations.
Past week cases (Jan. 18-24) - Total 13,400
- Not vaccinated: 2,996 (22.4%)
- Partially vaccinated: 778 (5.8%)
- Fully vaccinated: 9,626 (71.8%)
Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Jan. 11-24) - Total 1,328
- Not vaccinated: 334 (25.2%)
- Partially vaccinated: 63 (4.7%)
- Fully vaccinated: 931 (70.1%)
Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Jan. 18-24)
- Not vaccinated: 410.5
- Partially vaccinated: 201.6
- Fully vaccinated: 233.9
Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Jan. 11-24)
- Not vaccinated: 85.2
- Partially vaccinated: 51.4
- Fully vaccinated: 20.0
Since December 2020, the Province has administered 10,551,666 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Pfizer Pediatric COVID-19 vaccines.
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780 new cases in Fraser Health
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5 minutes ago, King Heffy said:
Again, the adults have already made the decision. We even had an election with it being a central issue. Continuing to throw a tantrum is 10 ply.
Yeah the election they called in the middle of the pandemic? Things change in 6 months. People thought the vaxx would be much more effective. Again 70% of people in the hospital from covid are doubled vaxxed.
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4 minutes ago, King Heffy said:
The lockdowns are to try to keep as many of these idiots as possible out of the hospital.
Oh they have support from the far right extremists both in Canada and outside the country. Other than that, not so much. Sorry if you don't like the fact that most Canadians aren't stupid enough to believe these morons should be taken seriously.
So Singhs brother and first nations people holding a metis flag on the side of the road are far right extremists?
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1 minute ago, lucky_nucker said:
The problem here is so far that is not correct. Vaccination has not done what is was supposed to do, with people still catching/spreading/dying of covid even if 2x vaxxed. So we instead doubled down on more lockdowns and more of the same failed approach, like vaccine mandates.
Yeah 70% of hospitalizations are from people who are double vaxxed. Seems like its pointless to mandate it on truckers when they have been fine the last 2 years without it. They pretty much work alone.
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34 minutes ago, King Heffy said:
Small, self selected sample size. Not statistically relevant.
Also very poorly worded. One can support their right to protest and yet disagree entirely with them.
The fact they have raised over 5 million in a week should tell you they have support.
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1 minute ago, King Heffy said:
Small, self selected sample size. Not statistically relevant.
Not if it doesnt support your narrative
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A poll from ctv
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How did Martin clear protocols already? He just went in after Demko and comes out before? Did he have a false positive or something?
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The problem with the carbon tax in a country this large and spread out is that it increases the price of everything not just the price of fuel and natural gas. The trucking companies arent just going to take the hit, they'll just start charging more. Then the people selling the goods start charging you more. You could have an electric car and electric heat and the price of living still goes up.
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28 minutes ago, DrJockitch said:
I do worry about a team that has Hoglander, Garland, Hughes, Petan, Hunt, Rathbone and Petterson (though not short is very slight)on it, especially given the loss of Gadjo and now our goon.
Luckily the new guys are decent sized and Chiasson is a good 6'4"
Same I was just wondering who would step up If players are taking liberties with our young players.
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33 minutes ago, gurn said:
Can you please quote were I said I wanted 100% of people vaccinated.
Please back this up with a credible link.
Also if kids/anyone gets covid there is more outcomes than just
They died
They got better
There is an large percentage of people who end up screwed up for an unknown amount of time; covid long haulers.
Ps kids can carry and spread the virus, so it isn't just about their health, it is also about the adults and seniors in their lives.
So you dont want 100% of people vaxxed in the 12 to 17 age range? Only 17 people in th 0 - 19 age range have died from covid in Canada. My guess is that most of those people had underlying conditions. Your teenager is more likely to die of a drug overdose in B.C than they are from Covid. Since the start of 2020 under 2k have died from covid where as 2700 have died from drug overdoses.
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20 hours ago, gurn said:
"In August, a U.S. study found that males between the ages of 12 and 17 — the demographic most likely to develop myocarditis — were six times more likely to suffer heart inflammation from being infected with Covid-19 than from being vaccinated against the virus."
They might be 6x more likely but you want to vax 100% of them where as up to this point they've only had a 4% chance of actually getting covid in B.C. so you would cause more cases than if they didn't get vaxxed. That age range chances of actually dying from Covid is basically 0 if they're healthy to begin with.
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1 hour ago, StanleyCupOneDay said:
If you choose not to get vaccinated then you are by choice anti-vax. I truly wish that this disease doesn’t come into your family or community, it can be a real eye opener.
https://globalnews.ca/news/8216343/bc-mom-covid-unvaccinated-regret-hospital/So if you've had 10 vaccines but don't get 1 you're an anti vaxxer?
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1 hour ago, ruututuutu said:
Why are we caught off guard by an unprecedented global pandemic? Good question. I hope we have a plan for the next alien invasion as well.
It's been going on for over 18 months. China can build a hospital in 10 days but Alberta doesn't have a contingency plan for 300 people in ICU after a year and a half? We spent 250 billion since this began but don't have enough beds? What if a variant comes around that the vaxx doesn't protect against? And 1000 people need ICU beds? They should have plans in place.
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1 hour ago, StanleyCupOneDay said:
You’re right and it also says most patients with myocarditis responded well to medicine and rest and felt better quickly. Next line says patients can usually return back to their normal daily activities after symptoms improve. So the majority of the minority who get this potential side effect after receiving a vaccine can get back to normal fairly quickly.They might get back to normal fairly quick but what are there long terms affects off your heart swelling for that period of time? CDC says they basically have no clue.
Coronavirus outbreak
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Haha if it smells like a duck? Im pretty sure thats not how the saying goes but ok. The context is in the data. Many people believe facts? That data is not up for debate it is straight facts of what happened in that 8 week period. If you want to believe your truth over facts go ahead it makes no difference to me. I really dont care what you think.