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#9391 Opmac

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:36 AM

For the compass cards; swipe to refill it with one of the 3 options shown.

To be exact: it is for tapping in and tapping out the Compass Cards. Tap on when you get on the bus and then tap off when you get off.

MasterCard, Visa, and American Express looks like will be the other type of payment cards that will be accepted in addition to the Compass.
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Posted 27 April 2013 - 11:59 AM

^ that'll make people not stand in front of the doors lol.... out of my way man, I have to tap out!
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Posted 28 April 2013 - 12:31 PM

Quick question regarding the YVR surcharge.


Say I have a 1-zone faresaver, and I'm travelling from the airport on the Canada Line. Would I have to simply just pay the fare upgrade to 2 zone, or would I have to pay the upgrade + $5 YVR surcharge as well?
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:15 PM

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:18 AM

I can't believe this thread is still going lol.
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Posted 30 June 2013 - 10:40 AM

I can't believe this thread is still going lol.


Haha, where have you been all this time?
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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:40 PM

Haha, where have you been all this time?


And who are you? lol.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:22 PM

Now that I live in Toronto, I can say this:

Long contiguous underground trains (8 Canada Line cars long) with full-length platforms underground is the absolute way to go.

Surface level LRT on streets are TERRIBLE. TERRIBLE. Do. Not. Do. This.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 11:12 PM

Now that I live in Toronto, I can say this:

Long contiguous underground trains (8 Canada Line cars long) with full-length platforms underground is the absolute way to go.

Surface level LRT on streets are TERRIBLE. TERRIBLE. Do. Not. Do. This.


There's a popular idea that people like to quote that you can build several kilometers of light rail line for each kilometer of grade separated rail, so it's clearly the way to go to expand the system faster.

Of course, the fact that it has less capacity, is slower, costs more to operate, and has to either fight other traffic or seriously slow it down don't enter to conversation.

Neither does the fact that rapid bus lines, as nicely shown with the 99 Bline stats, can rival the capacity and ridership of light rail (the 99 Bline would be among the tops in North America in that regard if measured to other light rail systems), costs less to operate, is more flexible (the "tracks" require no more than repainting to move), costs less to operate, and fits into the road system much better. Or the fact that if run on their own dedicated lanes not only does it run even better your effectively reserving a right of way for future skytrain expansion for when the ridership justifies it. Which would be soon if the experience with every other rapid bus line we have put into the lower mainland has turned out so far.....
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Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:39 AM

There's a popular idea that people like to quote that you can build several kilometers of light rail line for each kilometer of grade separated rail, so it's clearly the way to go to expand the system faster.

Of course, the fact that it has less capacity, is slower, costs more to operate, and has to either fight other traffic or seriously slow it down don't enter to conversation.

Neither does the fact that rapid bus lines, as nicely shown with the 99 Bline stats, can rival the capacity and ridership of light rail (the 99 Bline would be among the tops in North America in that regard if measured to other light rail systems), costs less to operate, is more flexible (the "tracks" require no more than repainting to move), costs less to operate, and fits into the road system much better. Or the fact that if run on their own dedicated lanes not only does it run even better your effectively reserving a right of way for future skytrain expansion for when the ridership justifies it. Which would be soon if the experience with every other rapid bus line we have put into the lower mainland has turned out so far.....


Not only that, but it's not easily expandable.

Dedicated curb side lanes with trolley accordion B-lines would be amazing. Getting around town via bus during the olympics was such a pleasure because they removed the street parking and made those dedicated bus lanes. I don't mind sharing that lane with people making right turns - that's fine and doesn't impede traffic much.
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Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:12 PM

Transit rules!

^ hopefully that counts as keeping things on topic.

Now my real question... has anyone been on I-5 lately? Is the problem with the collapsed bridge that happened in May impeding traffic flow at all? I had heard they were working on a temp replacement, but haven't been able to find out anything else since.
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Posted 02 July 2013 - 01:27 PM

Transit rules!

^ hopefully that counts as keeping things on topic.

Now my real question... has anyone been on I-5 lately? Is the problem with the collapsed bridge that happened in May impeding traffic flow at all? I had heard they were working on a temp replacement, but haven't been able to find out anything else since.

The temp replacement is already in. As for traffic flow, you're required to use a much slower speed limit... But from what I understand, it's not that big a problem.
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Posted 02 July 2013 - 05:03 PM

Not only that, but it's not easily expandable.

Dedicated curb side lanes with trolley accordion B-lines would be amazing. Getting around town via bus during the olympics was such a pleasure because they removed the street parking and made those dedicated bus lanes. I don't mind sharing that lane with people making right turns - that's fine and doesn't impede traffic much.


Not sure why you love the trolley lines so much but whatever....

However, converting parking into bus lanes as a way to up the capacity of the rapid bus line as it gains traction? Personally I love when I can up ridership at the massive capital costs of paint and signs while actually increasing capacity of the roadway of all users. As an added bonus you put the parking responsibility with the residents and businesses that benefit from it rather than having the average tax payer subsidise it.

Go figure, next thing you know, it's an arterial road. What a concept!
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Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:12 PM

Not sure why you love the trolley lines so much but whatever....

However, converting parking into bus lanes as a way to up the capacity of the rapid bus line as it gains traction? Personally I love when I can up ridership at the massive capital costs of paint and signs while actually increasing capacity of the roadway of all users. As an added bonus you put the parking responsibility with the residents and businesses that benefit from it rather than having the average tax payer subsidise it.

Go figure, next thing you know, it's an arterial road. What a concept!



Trolleys are quiet, clean, and the "fuel" cost is something like 25% of a diesel bus.
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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:15 PM

Trolleys are quiet, clean, and the "fuel" cost is something like 25% of a diesel bus.

The capital cost is also double that of a diesel bus.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 04:41 PM

So the TTC is screwed today in Toronto. A rain storm has flooded the subway and shut down power to a lot of downtown. I had to walk home in the rain without an umbrella or jacket. All the cabs were taken up.

I walked underground as far as I could, despite the flooding of the PATH, power outages leaving sections pitch black, and fire alarms going off. I still had to walk about 15 minutes in the rain.

LAME
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 04:42 PM

The capital cost is also double that of a diesel bus.


I'm too lazy to do the accounting, but I'd hazard a guess that with $1.40 /L fuel and 8c/kWh electricity (probably more like 6c for translink), you net out ahead with trolleys over their lifespan.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 08:53 PM

I'm too lazy to do the accounting, but I'd hazard a guess that with $1.40 /L fuel and 8c/kWh electricity (probably more like 6c for translink), you net out ahead with trolleys over their lifespan.

Well if it turns out that it is cheaper than sure, trolley it up. Though that takes away the flexibility as then they can only run where the wire are. What I would think was best was that if you have a long range plan to put in skytrain (like way on Fraser Highway) then don't put in the trolley wires. But if there's never going to be a need for it (at least in our lifetime) like say on King George Highway (but there would be enough ridership to justify rapid bus lanes and Bline buses) then if it turns out to have even a similar overall total lifetime cost then sure, trolley it up.
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:30 AM

TransLink testing Compass Card technology:

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) – You can now pay for things like coffee and movie tickets with your smart phone, but what about using it to ride the bus?


Derek Zabel with TransLink says things like using a smart phone app to swipe your fare, and paying for things like coffee with your Compass Card could be introduced one day, just not this fall.


“In the future we will have some convenience factors for customers, the Compass Card will have that technology. But, for the foreseeable future right now, we want to make sure people understand how this technology is going to change the way that they travel on the transit system.”


Zabel points to what cities like Tokyo and London have done with their smart card systems as a model for TransLink. “The Compass Card right now, you can look at examples of smart cards across the world. They can load up their card and use it at different vendors, for example. It has that kind of technology built into it.”


http://www.news1130....gy/?cid=dlvr.it
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:24 PM

TransLink testing Compass Card technology:

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) – You can now pay for things like coffee and movie tickets with your smart phone, but what about using it to ride the bus?


Derek Zabel with TransLink says things like using a smart phone app to swipe your fare, and paying for things like coffee with your Compass Card could be introduced one day, just not this fall.


“In the future we will have some convenience factors for customers, the Compass Card will have that technology. But, for the foreseeable future right now, we want to make sure people understand how this technology is going to change the way that they travel on the transit system.”


Zabel points to what cities like Tokyo and London have done with their smart card systems as a model for TransLink. “The Compass Card right now, you can look at examples of smart cards across the world. They can load up their card and use it at different vendors, for example. It has that kind of technology built into it.”


http://www.news1130....gy/?cid=dlvr.it



Why do they even need to "test" it?
I mean, it's already out there. Just seems a bit redundant.
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Posted 15 July 2013 - 12:51 PM

Now that I live in Toronto, I can say this:

Long contiguous underground trains (8 Canada Line cars long) with full-length platforms underground is the absolute way to go.

Surface level LRT on streets are TERRIBLE. TERRIBLE. Do. Not. Do. This.

Totally agree that LRT sucks. Very unappealing way to get new users. Waste of money.
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Posted 15 July 2013 - 03:55 PM

Sign up now to be one of the official Compass Card beta testers..


http://www.translink...-Beta-Test.aspx
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Posted 23 July 2013 - 10:53 PM


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Posted 23 July 2013 - 11:17 PM

how are UPass user going to be implemented into this compass card?
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 12:17 AM

Stick an RFID into the student card. My old card from SFU Surrey in 2004 had that already. So if those idiots sell their u-pass they are -

1. easily voided
2. screwed for exams.

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:06 AM

how are UPass user going to be implemented into this compass card?


Not sure about other universities, but UBC's new student cards will have the Compass technology embedded into it.
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 11:51 AM

Sign up now to be one of the official Compass Card beta testers..


http://www.translink...-Beta-Test.aspx


So silly...... Test it out, but still have to pay for fare.
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Posted 09 August 2013 - 08:42 PM

Wow.

A compass card costs $6 each. Yikes! that s quite expensive !!! :angry:

"Ling said the Compass card will cost $6, which provides a three-zone trip home, but can be loaded up using credit or debit cards, or cash."

Transit users clamour to be first to 'use' Compass card


http://www.tricityne.../218878011.html

By Diane Strandberg - The Tri-City News
Published: August 08, 2013 11:00 AM
Updated: August 08, 2013 12:18 PM
Thousands of transit commuters have applied to be the first to try out the Compass card, which will be in use across the Lower Mainland's transit system next year.
These beta testers won't get free rides but they will be the first to tap in and out with the shiny new card that will be used to pay fares on buses and SkyTrain to see if the system is working.
"We want all types of applicants: frequent, infrequent users, people in the Tri-Cities, downtown and Burnaby and elsewhere. We want any type of ridership, we're still encouraging people to apply," said Jiana Ling, TransLink spokesperson.
But time is short because toomorrow — Friday — is the deadline for applying, and already 13,000 people have applied for 5,000 spots.
Once chosen, beta testers will get their Compass cards in the mail and will be able to use them wherever and whenever they need to, Ling explained. "This is just to test the system. We want to find out if there are any glitches before we start the system," she said.
In the second phase, a smaller number of testers will be deployed to refine the system.
It will be the fall before we know the new fare structure for the Compass cards, and for some months next year, TransLink will roll out an education system to help people make the transition. People who currently purchase monthly passes or FareSaver passes at TransLink fare dealers will be able to load up their new Compass card with funds and then use them throughout the system.
Ling said the Compass card will cost $6, which provides a three-zone trip home, but can be loaded up using credit or debit cards, or cash.
"You tap into the system with your card, the system will charge three zones, if you use only one zone, then you'll get a credit for the rest," Ling said explaining how the system will start.
Meanwhile, she isn't surprised at the number of people who have applied to beta test the new Compass card even though they still have to buy their own fare and have proof of purchase along with the card.
"They get to use this system first," she said, "It's a like a novelty thing."
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Posted 09 August 2013 - 09:43 PM

How much does it compare to other transit system using a smart card/gate system?
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Posted 14 August 2013 - 12:02 PM

With new Compass Card, SkyTrain will not accept bus transfers:

When the new Compass Card is rolled out this fall, passengers who use bus transfer tickets from cash fares will not be able to use them on the SkyTrain.


Travellers will have to buy another single trip pass in order to continue their journey.


Translink says it would have cost $25 million to upgrade the fare boxes on the buses, and it is just too expensive to do so. The fare machines would need to be converted to dispense Compass Card compatible tickets.


About 6,000 customers will be affected by these changes – people who hop on the bus, pay by cash, and then hop on the SkyTrain to continue their journey.


When the Compass Card rolls out, there will be a transition period where both forms of payment will be accepted on the buses, but Translink will be encouraging people to buy the cards. It is not known when the Compass Card will come into effect.


Travellers we spoke to this morning were not too happy about the changes.


http://globalnews.ca...-bus-transfers/

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