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#61 Gretzky's Mullet

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 07:12 PM

Landry put up gaudy numbers, but I think Barkley is and will be better. Personally, I hate USC and USC QB's (ie Sanchez,Leinart,Palmer,John David Booty) but I think he's going to be the one to break the mold. Bray's the only other really good QB prospect for next year and the Vols football program has just fallen apart. You're bang on every point you keyed on, and I think it will make his stock rise.

Barkley could very well be better than Landry Jones, yes. But waiting until next year gives Matt the advantage of scarcity at his position. As it was, I'd seen draft projections picking Barkley as high as a top 5 pick, however, I think the emergence of Robert Griffin probably drops Barkley a little bit. Next year, Barkley will be a good candidate to go first overall, especially if he has a good season and USC makes a BCS bowl, in no small part because the QB field looks to be thinner at this point.

To go off on an NFL tangent for a bit, it'll be interesting in the last couple of weeks of the NFL season to see how the draft order shakes out. The Colts clearly covet Andrew Luck (who wouldn't, the guy is a gem), and things were looking just fine for them to get him until they...gasp...started winning games. Fact is, no team steps on the field trying to lose. Just try explaining to Curtis Painter or Dan Orlovsky, for instance, that you'd like them to heave up a few picks so the team can draft a replacement for them and run them out of town. However, winning a couple of late season meaningless games to lose draft positioning really does very little for the Colts at this point. However, they also know that the Rams won't be drafting a quarterback, as they have Sam Bradford to whom they clearly hitched the wagons for the present (get it...the wagons..?) So the Rams are obviously going to look to trade the pick, and the Colts, as the number 2 selector, will probably be able to present an attractive package for moving up one spot. However, the Rams are going to fleece them for it. The Vikings, Browns, Bucs, Skins and Dolphins are also going to have very marketable picks however, and while I think the Vikings will stand pat with Ponder, and the Buccaneers probably are comfortable with Freeman and don't use their pick on a QB, all those other teams will want to upgrade, and the Skins and Dolphins will be particularly desperate and may drive up the bidding a little bit. The Colts have to be praying the Rams can beat the 49ers.

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 09:40 PM

Of all things, the Little Caesar and Belk Bowls were both actually pretty entertaining today. Western Michigan's comeback against Purdue fell short when QB Alex Carder fumbled during the 2 minute drill to end the game. And somehow, Louisville was able to come back to within a TD of NC State before ultimately falling short, in a game with amazing TD throws, an awesome pick-6, and enough bad officiating to make any fan pissed off.
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 12:28 PM

Barkley could very well be better than Landry Jones, yes. But waiting until next year gives Matt the advantage of scarcity at his position. As it was, I'd seen draft projections picking Barkley as high as a top 5 pick, however, I think the emergence of Robert Griffin probably drops Barkley a little bit. Next year, Barkley will be a good candidate to go first overall, especially if he has a good season and USC makes a BCS bowl, in no small part because the QB field looks to be thinner at this point.

To go off on an NFL tangent for a bit, it'll be interesting in the last couple of weeks of the NFL season to see how the draft order shakes out. The Colts clearly covet Andrew Luck (who wouldn't, the guy is a gem), and things were looking just fine for them to get him until they...gasp...started winning games. Fact is, no team steps on the field trying to lose. Just try explaining to Curtis Painter or Dan Orlovsky, for instance, that you'd like them to heave up a few picks so the team can draft a replacement for them and run them out of town. However, winning a couple of late season meaningless games to lose draft positioning really does very little for the Colts at this point. However, they also know that the Rams won't be drafting a quarterback, as they have Sam Bradford to whom they clearly hitched the wagons for the present (get it...the wagons..?) So the Rams are obviously going to look to trade the pick, and the Colts, as the number 2 selector, will probably be able to present an attractive package for moving up one spot. However, the Rams are going to fleece them for it. The Vikings, Browns, Bucs, Skins and Dolphins are also going to have very marketable picks however, and while I think the Vikings will stand pat with Ponder, and the Buccaneers probably are comfortable with Freeman and don't use their pick on a QB, all those other teams will want to upgrade, and the Skins and Dolphins will be particularly desperate and may drive up the bidding a little bit. The Colts have to be praying the Rams can beat the 49ers.


haha nice reference to Sam Bradford and the Oklahoma schooner there :P Yeah, i'd say you're pretty spot on with everything again. It's gonna be really interesting to see how this last week pans out with everything
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 10:17 AM

haha nice reference to Sam Bradford and the Oklahoma schooner there :P Yeah, i'd say you're pretty spot on with everything again. It's gonna be really interesting to see how this last week pans out with everything

You see that last play of Air Force vs Toledo yesterday? A fumble on the 2-point conversion that would've won the game, and I think they would have probably brought it in there too. That's got to sting.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 09:46 PM

If you're not already watching this crazy crazy awesome Alamo bowl, featuring the Huskies taking on Baylor.

Put it on NOW.

Ch 54 The Score.
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Posted 30 December 2011 - 12:15 AM

ya epic game....

entertaining i guess, but good god it was like a video game, i would actually prefer a 7-3 game over that
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Posted 30 December 2011 - 12:56 AM

There was soo many touchdowns! Too bad the Huskies didnt pull it out though
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Posted 30 December 2011 - 09:47 AM

Too many bowl games.

The NCAA needs to get it's divisions organised and maybe have a playoff format for an NCAA championship. I'm all for tradition but it's too stupid with the ranking systems, and the current setup.
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Posted 30 December 2011 - 02:52 PM

If you're not already watching this crazy crazy awesome Alamo bowl, featuring the Huskies taking on Baylor.

Put it on NOW.

Ch 54 The Score.

Yeah wasn't that wild. If you'd never heard of him before, Keith Price is the Huskies' QB. 7 total TD yesterday despite the loss.
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Posted 30 December 2011 - 04:17 PM

Wow what a crazy Alamo Bowl. RG III wasn't that great but he didn't really have to be.

He has a really quick release and could have success as a rookie next year similar to Cam Newton if he goes to the right team.
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Posted 31 December 2011 - 01:34 PM

Wow what a crazy Alamo Bowl. RG III wasn't that great but he didn't really have to be.

He has a really quick release and could have success as a rookie next year similar to Cam Newton if he goes to the right team.

He hasn't actually declared for the draft yet, I don't believe, though I think he probably will. Griffin has already graduated and is currently working on a Masters degree, which he probably will leave behind for the money of the NFL. That'd be the smart move, and RGIII is certifiably pretty smart. He could come back for his senior year and probably be a good Heisman candidate again, and maybe also finish his second degree, but I doubt there'd be much benefit. Barkley will probably move past him on the draft chart, as pro style QB's usually generate more interest than dual threat guys, so waiting probably won't get him a higher slot.
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 02:33 AM

He hasn't actually declared for the draft yet, I don't believe, though I think he probably will. Griffin has already graduated and is currently working on a Masters degree, which he probably will leave behind for the money of the NFL. That'd be the smart move, and RGIII is certifiably pretty smart. He could come back for his senior year and probably be a good Heisman candidate again, and maybe also finish his second degree, but I doubt there'd be much benefit. Barkley will probably move past him on the draft chart, as pro style QB's usually generate more interest than dual threat guys, so waiting probably won't get him a higher slot.


Yeah for sure he will be #2 qb taken after Andrew Luck probably top 5 as well. Hard to pass that up.

NFL money is too enticing too turn down. Plus he has already accomplished everything he could in his college career by winning a bowl game as well as the Heisman this year.

One guy who definitely should not declare for the draft is Vontaze Burfict. He was projected to be a late first round talent going into this year as an inside backer' but his stock has plummeted this year with all his discipline problems on the field constantly losing his temper and hurting his team with penalties.

He can't control his emotions and he needs to go back to Arizona State and mature in his senior season if he wants to be a first rounder next year.

I would be shocked if Burfict declared for this years draft. He has the physical talent but mentally he is not there.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 03:31 PM

Wow, the Outback Bowl today was incredible! Michigan State comes from 16-0 down to eventually tie the game in the final minute, then wins the game in triple OT on a blocked field goal. The Big 10 needed that too because the rest of the teams in the conference were getting walked on in the other bowls of the day, with Ohio State, Penn State and Nebraska all losing. Now we'll see what Wisconsin can do.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:16 PM

And the Rose Bowl has been everything promised and more so far. No wonder they call it the "Grandaddy of them all"
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 10:31 PM

WOW. Fiesta bowl! Luck brings his team back and take the lead 38-31. Oklahoma state ties it up. With a minute left Luck drives down the field to within the 30 yard line and the kicker misses it! In over time Stanford gets the ball first and the kicker misses the field goal again! Oklahoma state gets the ball down to the 1 yard line and kicks the game winner. The kicker ruined Luck's last college game.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 10:38 PM

Which was better? Rose bowl of Fiesta bowl?

Man I want the Rams to draft Blackmon.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 12:07 PM

Yeah for sure he will be #2 qb taken after Andrew Luck probably top 5 as well. Hard to pass that up.

NFL money is too enticing too turn down. Plus he has already accomplished everything he could in his college career by winning a bowl game as well as the Heisman this year.

One guy who definitely should not declare for the draft is Vontaze Burfict. He was projected to be a late first round talent going into this year as an inside backer' but his stock has plummeted this year with all his discipline problems on the field constantly losing his temper and hurting his team with penalties.

He can't control his emotions and he needs to go back to Arizona State and mature in his senior season if he wants to be a first rounder next year.

I would be shocked if Burfict declared for this years draft. He has the physical talent but mentally he is not there.

Looks like you're not getting your wish, Burfict declared for the draft today. I've read he's projected as a mid second rounder, and the third best ILB after Luke Kuechly and Donta Hightower according to CBS.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 02:36 AM

Looks like you're not getting your wish, Burfict declared for the draft today. I've read he's projected as a mid second rounder, and the third best ILB after Luke Kuechly and Donta Hightower according to CBS.


Obviously he is not very mature then. I expect his stock to go down more but a team will take a chance on him and hope they can reign him in.

He had a very disappointing season and was benched for a couple games. In the bowl game against Boise State a couple of weeks back he was a non-factor and hurt his own team with bad penalties which he has done his entire college career.

I don't know why he would declare when he could go back to college for his senior season and improve his draft stock immensely by showing scouts he matured.

He would however be a good fit with a team like the Ravens in time that have an good veteran presence with Ray Lewis to mentor him and get the best out of him.

He has the talent but like I said he has done nothing to prove he will not be a headache for an NFL team despite his huge upside.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 01:17 PM

Tonight is the the night that the 2012 BCS NATIONAL CHAMPION will be decided in new orleans,



I hope my LSU TIGERS can pull out a victory


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Posted 09 January 2012 - 02:31 PM

So excited for this game!! Lets hope its a good defemsive battle for a change.

This was the first year i was into ncaa football. It was great. The more football the better.


Lsu is louisiana state university right? That means there home...man the crowd will be crazy tonight.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 02:53 PM

So excited for this game!! Lets hope its a good defemsive battle for a change.

This was the first year i was into ncaa football. It was great. The more football the better.


Lsu is louisiana state university right? That means there home...man the crowd will be crazy tonight.


Correct, LSU is Louisiana State. I saw some pictures of the French Quarter last night, and it looked crazier than when the Saints won the super bowl.. I think it'll be higher scoring than the last one, and i'm calling a 17-14 Alabama win even though I don't really like either team.. The more you follow College ball the more you'll like it, it's great for scouting players for the upcoming drafts, and former alumni treat their schools like their family see these videos as examples :



heck, even Anthony Reddick who plays for the BC Lions threw up "The U" a few times this season http://www.procanes....ny-reddick.html

My favorite quote to do with my 'Canes is "The U on the helmet stands for Unity, not University"
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 07:41 PM

Ugh, LSU looks so sloppy right now.
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 08:36 PM

Brutal give away
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 09:24 PM

Dear jerry jones,

Can you please only draft alabama defensive players in this years draft please.

Sincerely,dallas cowboys nation.



Alabama defense is amazing. Lsu isnt that bad eithere. Wow.
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 09:36 PM

Defense wins championships.

Courtney Upshaw is gonna be an amazing NFL player. I hope the Jets can pick him up.
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 10:22 PM

Ugh, LSU looks so sloppy right now.





I don't know what LSU team was playing tonight but that the wasn't the LSU team that won 13-0 during the season.



bama was the better team tonight and deserves the trophy.









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Posted 10 January 2012 - 06:25 PM

Now the question will be who will finish first in the final BCS rankings. Personally, I think Alabama should overtake LSU for that spot, but it isn't a given.

Also, in news that falls into the "yeah, no crap" category, Robert Griffin is apparently going to skip his senior season and declare for the NFL draft.

EDIT: never mind, just realized the rankings were posted, and in the AP poll, the Tide got 55 out of 60 votes, with LSU getting 1 and the other 4, surprisingly, going to Oklahoma State.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 06:31 PM

http://rivals.yahoo....tle_game_010912
Wise words from Mr. Wetzel. Sadly, I doubt if changes are forthcoming.
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Posted 27 June 2012 - 09:14 AM

Wise words from Mr. Wetzel. Sadly, I doubt if changes are forthcoming.


It seems changes are coming.

WASHINGTON -- Playoffs and tournaments long have determined champions of every college sport from baseball to bowling.

The exception was major college football.

That ended Tuesday. Come 2014, the BCS is dead.

A committee of university presidents approved a plan for a four-team playoff put forward by commissioners of the top football conferences.

For years, the decision-makers had balked at any type of playoff because they said it would diminish the importance of the regular season. If only two teams had a chance to win a championship in the post-season, even one loss could be too many. That made for some very high stakes regular-season games. As recently as 2008, Southeastern Conference Commissioner Mike Slive proposed the type of plan adopted Tuesday, and it was quickly shot down.

Four years later, minds changed. The 12 university presidents stood shoulder to shoulder on a stage at a news conference in a posh hotel in the nation's capital and delivered the news.

"It's a great day for college football," BCS Executive Director Bill Hancock said. "As soon as the commissioners realized they could do this and protect the regular season, the light went on for everybody."

The move completes a six-month process for the commissioners, who have been working on a new way to determine a major college football champion after years of griping from fans. The latest configuration is certain to make even more money for the schools than the old system -- and not satisfy everyone.

"There were differences of views," said Virginia Tech President Charles Steger, who headed the BCS presidential oversight committee. "I think it would be a serious mistake to assume it was a rubber stamp."

Nebraska Chancellor Harvey Perlman was the most notable holdout. He had said he preferred the status quo or a tweak of the Bowl Championship Series. Perlman said the playoff still wouldn't be his first choice, but he was not going to stand in the way of progress.

"This is the package that was put forth and we will strongly support it," he said.

Instead of simply matching the nation's No. 1 and No. 2 teams in a title game after the regular season, the way the BCS has done since 1998, the new format will create a pair of national semifinals.

Many college football fans have been clamouring for a playoff for years, and the BCS has been a constant target for criticism. Lawmakers have railed against it. A political action committee was formed, dedicated to its destruction. The Justice Department looked into whether it broke antitrust laws. Even President Obama said he wanted a playoff.

Now it's a reality.

No. 1 will play No. 4, and No. 2 will play No. 3 on Dec. 31 and/or Jan. 1. The sites of those games will rotate among the four current BCS bowls -- Rose, Orange, Fiesta and Sugar -- and two more to be determined. One of the new sites will likely be wherever the newly formed bowl created by the SEC and Big 12 is played, Slive said.


Here's the link to the whole article: http://www.tsn.ca/nc...tory/?id=399311

It's about time. This move was way overdue. Personally, I think they should have gone for a 6 or 8 team playoff, but 4 is a step in the right direction.
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Posted 29 September 2012 - 02:05 PM

forgot about this thread

anyway, shootout today between Baylor and West Virginia, 70-63 WVU
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