vancan2233

You would take Nurse at 9.2 million dollars for another 7 years? Talk about having an anchor of a contract. Nurse at 7.5 million for 7 more years is asking alot! There are 20 other defensemen I take before him at that cost. Makar at 9 milllion for 5 more years is a slap in the face to Edmonton having to sign Nurse for 9.2. McAvoy at 9.5 for 7 years is better by miles. Nurse is not worth 9.2 at 7 years. Nurse is being over paid by 2 million at that length of contract. Nurse is being paid like a top 10 defenceman and he is maybe in the top 20.

Tanev really is Markstroms pillar of support, even in Van if Tanev got hurt Markstrom play started to go down. The Oilers just can not get the goaltending either althougth thier defence is lacking also. Nurse @ 9.2 million for 7 more years is far worse than both Myers and OEL's contracts combined. At that price you need a Makar or Hedman.

How many where saying that two? The main agruement was having two small defenders with similar traits and if Rathbone did show will (not better than Huges) one had to be traded. Some chose Huges not because they saw Rathbone being just as good or better. They were stating if Rathbone could produce and move the puck then having him at a lower cap hit and trading Huges would give us a huge return of assets. The idea was getting a high first round draft pick plus good propects for Huges. With the draft pick the thought was picking a defenceman like Seider. I was never for this line of reasoning but there was not many saying Rathbone was going to be as good as Huge. It just seemed like that because the few argued it as much as they could.

Not completely that simple! Some where stating that Rathbone was a similar player, and the Canucks could not have two small players on defence. Some where stating there had to be a trade of one of them. Some chose Huges, because the return would be huge.

He needs to adjust to he NHL pace, going back down to the AHL will not help his development. His play in the AHL is at a point a game, he clearly able to play at that pace. He needs NHL games to learn that pace of players being faster at everything. Six (total of 23) games is hardly a fair time frame for him to be judged, especially when the team is sucking.

Rathbone is not playing good but not terrible. I think right now Makar would look bad on this core. OEL and Myers just not thinking the game right now. Who ever pairs with those two look bad. It has a carry down effect to the other pairings knowing they can not make mistakes too, or the team and goalie have no chance. Rathbone would look better on a team that is playing better. I disagree he has been unnoticeable, you can see his skill carry and passing the puck. He is ready just not with the group playing like it is.

Between him and Dries, give Lockwood a go Dries has had his go. Lockwood is another player that give his all on the ice, has some skill, alot of speed and is a pest. You and the bigger the better attitude, although the two players are basicly the same size.

Rathbone situation will be like the Forsling trade. Peolpe looking at the size and not the skill. Col won the cup with two undersize D man (one being the best offencise D man in the NHL).

Why are we talking about trades right know anyways? Let the team play terrible until trade deadline, Then worry about who comes asking for our players. Hope Miller is the number one ask for in trades, but if Horvat keeps going the way he is? The writting is on the wall! Unless this team surprises everyone, change is coming. Fans need to be ready for disapointment on the return. There will be no first round picks or top propects coming back with Canuck's luck.

Should be Lockwood being called up.

Garland would not be in JR accountability top ten list He would be one of the last players JR would put on the trade block. He would listen to offers, but he would have to win the trade for anything to happen. I just do not get the idea that Garland should be traded for the sake of making change and be fine with any kind of return. Now if Miller was traded for sake of cap space for anything I be fine with that. Ths ship for getting value for Miller has sailed. He alone will cause this team cap troubles for years if not moved.

The problem is Garland was more value here than anything we get in a trade. He is in his prime has a good 4 to 6 years of play at his current pace. He can help be apart of a positive rebuild. The only way you trade him is for a top ten pick, and no team in that position is trading picks. He brings alot this team needs more of : number one he draws penalaties ( Petey is the only other one to do at his rate), number two 5 on 5 play tops on the team.... repeating myself. Would not be surprised to see this management trade him and lose huge.

It is about value to cap hit, you keep the positive value to cap hit.

Garland is in his prime at a very good cap hit. He will be helping this team win for another 6 years. You bulid around that. He is not redundant, that is a nonsense.

You build around that when the cap hit to value is positive. You do not trade this type of value for unknown assets.

Completely disagree, Garland is the exactly the type of player you keep and build your team around. Goog cap hit, still young at 26, has alot of NHL experience, a leader. He is the tpye of player you want around your young players that you bring in. Hoglander has aways to go to reach Garland's value.

Garland is not an one dimensional player. He back checks just as good as anyone on this team. We need more players like him at a good cap hit who are skilled and work hard. he also draws alot of penalties. Give this team a 6' 200 pound Graland like player any time. Garland is also one of the best if not the best forward 5 on 5 for Van. I would replace Miller on the PK with Graland.

What are we looking to flip these two for high draft picks? We can not afford Tarasenko and Horvat. Parayko is not the top right handed Dman we need. We need a young right handed D man close to Huges age, that can play top minutes. Schneider from NYR should still be a target for Van. Jake Livingstone would be awesome to pick up from college free agents. Take a fly on under sized D man Zach Metsa.

Miller should be shuffled back to the wing. Pearsons needs to watch a few games. Call up Lockwood to take Pearson place. Lockwood looking like he could be useful with his speed, skill and two-way play. Give this remaining road trip to Martin.

Just looked it up seems there is no waiting list now.

Most people attending the games are season ticket holders. Their the ones who need to ask for their money back. Then again there is a waiting list for season tickets, you give them up , someone just purchases them.

The Canuckts do not need to look for trades, the offers will come to them. Team will try to low ball them, but more than one team will be after the same players. Teams will have to out offer the other. This could result in some nice trades if any actually occur.

I do not think any coach can help. The players are not thinking the game right now. They are making the wrong decision with and without the puck.

The only good thing about playing this bad, is most teams in the NHL are going to be calling to see who is up for trade. The Canucks can be in a biding war with teams wanting the same players.

Demko playing terrible and just when Van was starting to get some momentum Miller strikes again. Still winnable against an average team in Montreal. There was also interfernce on the Montreal powerplay goal. I think it was Miller trying to get to the point man and the Montreal player was holding him up like he had the puck. That's what BB was all upset about.