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3 hours ago, Rindiculous said:
I see why the Soilers are first in the division, to because of McDavid and Drai, because of the &^@#er nurse
They won’t be for long.
this is the NHL two plyers don’t make a teAm, this is why the oilers have sucked for so long they have to play 2/3rds of
the game without them on the ice! And nurse isn’t that amazing he’s good though.
And because the team expected to be good in this division like sharks flames knights all blew chunks in the first twenty games but now all
seem to be turning it around meaning we need to too.
weve been on a down slope ever since November started and now we stArt December off this way
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10 ROW wins in 28 games. Eek.
its a losers mentality to blame the refs.
Our team is still learning. You don’t think the refs have ever screwed the oilers? They’ve screwed every team it goes in cycles. Yet all I hear about is people complaining about them non stop.
we have a team that didn’t come out to play for half the third when down by one. Unacceptable
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At least my boy Eichel was a plus four with 3 points while Matthews was a minus three (with a ton of giveaways) and 0 points and passed him in points as well as sabres passing leafs in standings so there’s that lol
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5 hours ago, JayDangles said:
You're right, every team has injuries... But remember, injuries are a double sided coin... it's 1 side to lose a player, the other side is "who is replacing them"
Yes, Pens lost Crosby, but they have some strong guys able to step in and fill his roll, sort of.
Who is stepping in to fill Ferlands aggressive roll? No one
Who is stepping in to fill Beagles Pk shut down roll? No one
Who is stepping in to fill Sutters pk shut down roll? Gaudette, but lacking defensive prowess and faceoffs
Who is stepping in to fill Roussels agitator roll? No one
Who is stepping in to fill Motte's energy roll? Give you a hint, it's not Erickson.... its no one
So yes, other teams have injuries, but the Canucks injuries are felt double hard because (Warning sweet rhyme coming) we only have bodies to fill holes... not rolls.
You make a valid point but then where does the blame go? At the end of your point you point to depth, or lack thereof rather then Luck due to injuries. Personally I don’t think the penguins are that deep at forward last night, outside makkin and guentzel.
i mean every team has a group of great forwards, your suggesting that our bottton 6 forwArds are a bigger loss then Sidney Crosby who is a hart trophy winner? Come on.
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2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said:
It's a long season, it's only just over a quarter into it. The Canucks have been holding a playoff or wildcard spot basically since the season started. They've also done this without Roussel at all, and having Ferland, Sutter, Motte and Beagle injured. Yet, they're still clinging to that playoff or wildcard spot. Things will get better, I feel they'll start winning a lot more games in the New Year, once everyone or most guys return. When this team is on, they're very tough to beat. They better turn it on in the second half though, if they want to see playoffs.
Don’t you realize that all teams are without players all the time.
why are people always pretending we’re he only team without star players. Those guys aren’t even stars. They’re integral parts of the team but Marner dahlin Bergeron Crosby those are just some names out right now would you rather have horvat and Petterson our or the ones we have now? Glass half full....but yeah we’re in a playoff spot but it’s only because of our division. We’ve lost more then we’ve won! We actually only have a combined 9 wins in overtime and regulation in 26 games and for of those 9 were to the two worst teams in each conference. La and Detroit. We beat the caps and blues which were the best teams in shootouts (old times) and those teams beat us as well this year the second time.
to me I will cheer and have faith that some day it will change.
I just dont think his defense will do the trick. Again I ask the question How many great dmen do we have? Honestly.
we can hope Juolevi figures it out, woo excels and tryamkin comes back
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On 10/31/2019 at 6:28 PM, Haydnucks said:
Our D looks night and day different from last year. Not getting hemmed in. We have the players with the ability and smarts to make that quick, accurate pass out of the zone, also possessing the speed and danglebility to skate it out when necessary, especially Hughes. I think this is resulting in less pounding on our D and not laying out constantly to block shots, Tanev is most definitely benefitting from playing with Hughes. I feel our transition game is going to result in less man games lost to injury this year.
Our d still sucks
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I’m more concerned that we only have a combined 9 wins at overtime and regulation this year in 25 or 26 games and four of the nine were vs Detroit and La.
Injuries are an excuse.
A lot of teams are missing top players and were missing bottom six forwards who are important but would you pick them or top six forwards out?
problem is our defense isn’t that great, name how many truly good to great dman we have? Honestly?
most teams in this league have a few and we don’t, not yet anyway.
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16 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said:
Without guys like Sutter, Beagle, Motte, Roussel and Ferland we are easy to play against and are gonna have trouble closing out games.
Our team went to $&!# when these guys got hurt.
we are great offensive but have zero defender/checkers in our bottom 6 and teams are taking advantage.
injury bug &^@#s us over again.
So it’s the injuries five years in a row?
dude almost every team
has bigger stars out then those dahlin Marner Bergeron that team didn’t even have Crosby, and we dominated at the beginning four times against Detroit and la that’s basically half of our 9 ROW wins we have in 26 games.
im sick of this injury excuse we have no great dman but a 19 year old and this needs to be addressed by Benning
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4 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:
Oh goody. I was wondering when you were going to show up...…..
I care? Because I talk truth.
everyone can be ultra negative I bring up a fact and you moan. Get over it
i haven’t seen anyone say ...not since the 90s
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16 hours ago, Wilfred said:
Would like an explanation as to why so often at even strength hockey, in the defensive zone it looks like this team is on a PK. Players frequently go out of their way to back off from the puck carrier, and give them all kinds of time and space. It's just mind numbing. There's no logic to it. Why is our strategy defensively to GIVE up space. GIVE them time.
You see this and you understand why the Canucks have just been putrid defensively giving up shots and chances non stop. The defensive zone coaching is just unacceptable. Time and time again it appears as if they're killing a penalty while it's at even strength.
And yet another blown lead. 5 goal lead isn't safe. 3 goal lead in the third. And we just sit back and not even slowly, but quickly lose the lead. I have absolutely no faith in this coaching staff at this time.
Our best dmen is 19 and we have no other top
dmen.
you asked...
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16 hours ago, ruilin96 said:
Agree, with guys like Sutter, Beagle, Roussel playing in this one, they would have a better chance of closing it out.
They didn’t have crosby
and we’re gonna complain about those guys being out ....there are stars on every team out bigger and way better then those guys
Crosby
bergeron
dahlin
marner
should I continue?
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Everyone’s blaming green when our d is atrocious
Our best dman is 19.
name the other great dman on this team. I’ll wait
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15 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:
Myers isn't worse than Eriksson, seriously pull your head out of your ass...
Maybe It was an exaggeration but it’s really not that far off. If you think myers is even playing good enough to be average you are the one who hasn’t watched him especially the last dozen games. Horrific. I can tell people want to like him and want to believe he’s just a great added piece, believe me it would be great but nothing he’s done since his rookie season has been great. And he’s done nothing GOOD this year in the big picture. My god Hutton and Gudbranson bve. Goal Already playing on their low life teams.
he never hits the net his plus minus in the last two weeks has gone to high hell, he always gives it away. And relies on his reach which can be effective but also makes him chest and proves to be a liability.
id be saying this if he was at 2-3 million, the fact he’s at six more then Mackinnon makess me nauseous. Oh ok that’s an old contract for mack so how about we look at two recent d contracts who were signed At similar times. Mcavoy and Werenski both just signed for less then 6 each. Ya.... Unreal man.
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10 hours ago, Krzysl said:
Draisaitl took 5 seasons to hit 100 and played along side generational talent mcdavid
cale makar might be generational. But team plays a factor too. Put Hughes on that team and style and he could also be putting up those numbers. Plus major has a year in age abound Hughes.
Not homer vision, EP if he breaks 100 pts in second season (which he could) he would def be in the same discussion as generational talent.
Hughes on pace for 60pts as rookie def puts him ahead of dahlin who is touted as generational
You realize on pace for six seven weeks into a season is hardly going to be AccurAte.
ps Dahlin was 18 and had to make the transition from big ice to small ice, and played on an even worse offense and still put up the second best season in nhl history by an 18 yr old passing Bobby Orr who was second.
i don’t think Hughes is fat off dahlin but we will see.
i don’t pettersson is going to get 100 Pts nor do I think it would make him
generational if he did.
barzal got 86 Pts in his FIRST season and most people don’t even list him in the top 15 centers let alone forwards let alone players.
he would definitely be in the conversation and was one of the top ten players in the game with generational potential but one season doesent make anyone generational.
i agree with what you said about draisaitl.
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I lost respect for Benning when he dealt McCann for Gudbranson. McCann is producing like a star right now he’s got one of the best plus minuses in the league and has like 15 points?
Also giving eriksson and Tyler Myers six million each is ridiculous.
However he did draft Boeser, Petterson and Hughes, that has to be said here
And it evens it out.
i hope people realize this guy is out of a job probably if we don’t make the playoffs this year. You can say we’re third in our division, yeaaah but our division kind of sucks. I mean the oilers and coyotes as the top two teams, come on...two forwards on one team and the other has been to the playoffs like once in 20 yeArs.
were on pace for 38 wins, I don’t think a team had made the playoffs with that many wins in this new era playoff system but could be wrong.
i want a offensive defensemen who can actually hit the net. Waive Myers. Buy out Eriksson.
Trade for Brandon montour, maybe give Buffalo sutter and a second?
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15 hours ago, theo5789 said:
Last 25 games we are 12-9-4. We are 3rd in our division and well within the fight for a wildcard spot/playoff spot.
All teams go through tough games and stretches as well as highs. We could be a powerhouse team like Tampa last year and get swept in the 1st round. We could be bottom of the league by the new year and win the Cup like St Louis. No matter how it's spun, there's a long season still ahead and lots of things can still happen.
I don't see the need to fire everyone and trade the scapegoats after every loss, nor do I feel like a Stanley Cup contender after every win. We have been progressing every year and if we continue the trend, we should be in a wild card spot this year or at least fighting right to the last game of the year. If that's where we end up, I'm fine with it. I'm trusting the process.
We’re still on pace for 38 wins, and that doesent get you into the playoffs.
i get it it’s not all bAd but we need to make a move for another offensive defensemen
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7 hours ago, BrockBoester said:
You realiIze I edited my post literally two seconds after that, if you would of just looked at it (after the first minute) it would save you posting a meme that was relevant only 20 years ago. Steve Austin hasn’t said what since 2002. Lol
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9 minutes ago, BettyWhites44 said:
This team doesn’t need new coaching staff, it needs the grit we’re lacking without ferland, roussel and motte. It’s too easy to push us around and we have no one that can hit we rank 3rd fewest hits in the league. When we had ferland back we were doing great then we lost him and boom we’re getting pushed around.
Dude we were doing great against la and Detroit. That’s where still where basically half our 9 wins in overtime and regulation have came from. Yeah we beat St. Louis and Washington in shootouts which is an old tie. Those two and the sharks I believe are the only three teams in 25 games from last year we have beaten that made the playoffs last year. I could be off by a team or two but that’s all I remember. We also lost to St. Louis as well remember that Awful 3 on 0 goal, ugh.
Most teams are missing way more
important players then we are in six of the injury excuse for the last six years. Our best players are playing.
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It’s absolutely incredible people can be like this on Eriksson yet Myers has actually been worse for us this year at the same price. I can pin point ten plays where he has single handedly wrecked the play causing goals, or defeats and can you name even two good shifts the guy had haf this year which have effected us in a way where we won?
four assists zero goals, how many give seats missed nets (with shots) and slug like play does he need to make before he’s waived?
This isnt even about me being right iwas hoping I’d be wrong when I warned everyone as if watched the guy play 300 times in buffalo and Kelowna mixed he’s fell off a cliff since his rookie year.
hes literally one of the lowest producing players in the league. There’s players in this league making only 20 percent of what he makes outplaying him.
six million ladies and gentlemen.
any time I see Eriksson bashing posts yet people don’t bash Myers it’s absolute hypocrisy
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12 hours ago, Dr. Crossbar said:Yeah, I get that. Sometimes I challenge the status quo. To me, the Caps win the other day really proved where this team is and why there's less reason to be frustrated after every loss.
Hold on...what?
THE shootout win over the caps proves where the team is? We’ve lost more then half our games but a shootout win which is an old tie and doesent count the same in the standings proves where we are? Hilarious.
sabrss are my other team and they routinely beat some of the best teams in the league, especially when they finished 31st (the first team to ever finish 31st) in The first year Vegas was in the league buffalo beat four of the best teams in the league in the same week and didnt need a shoot out.
Was that indicative of where that team was?
there goes your argument. I mean it would hold at least a bit more credibility if we had won more then half our games, or whooped the caps or even just beat them in regulation or overtime for crying out loud but we haven’t and didn’t so....
ps how do you think were even on track to do well, we barely have a defense.
Name our great dmen, I’ll wait. And I said great. Not good or average. Our best defensemen is 19 years old.
tyler Myers is on the ice doing nothing half the time and the other half he’s giving the puck away, missing the net, did you seen him in phillys first goal? This isn’t the only time done this temember the 3 on 0 St. Louis had when they beat us, guess who’s fault that was. We’re 25 games in and the plus is on pace for zero goals and 15 assists at a whopping six million.
everyone rips Eriksson but slug Myers makes the same and plays even worse. And is less productive, Eriksson can actually kill penalties. People have selective bias in here.
I rip everyone who plays bad, not just the favourite whipping boys.
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I don’t think we’re ready to win.
i know everyone thinks we are mostly because their sick of waiting and they think that because the names are here they’re ready.
it doesent work that way. Those names have to be experienced usually. You can’t Argue the leafs made it in 16/17 when their best guys were rookies but seriously adding Matthews Marner and Nylander to a team that had JVR kadri Rielly bozak Gardiner and freedy Anderson helped that quite a bit.
our best players are in their first, second or third years for the most part. My other team buffalos best players are in their fifth, sixth, seventh, second, second, years and they’re around where we are but haven’t made it in a decade. And before you talk about how our core is better it could be but don’t act like Eichel and dahlin aren’t as good as say Petterson and Hughes because I assure you....they are. Canucks goaltending is better but Ullmark is a stud he’s like a Demko and Luukonen is one of the best prospects in hockey. Buffalo actually had better defense too. You can debate that all day but that’s just my opinion. And I don’t know how closer they are then us. Jokiharju Montour, Dahlin aNd Ristolainen are better then edler Myers tanev and Hughes and any kid of McCabe bogosian pilut scandella are better then benn and stecher. Not leaps and bounds but yeah.
i believe we have a better botttton six forWards and better defensive centres s well as better role players, and maybe an even better system (and goaltending)
But how young are guys are...thats really not great formula for success.
i think in two years or maybe even nextt season we could be ready.
i don’t think Benning would make it that long though, green would likely but not after next year if there were no playoffs this season and next.
i don’t know if greens the right man for the job though.
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6 hours ago, WCE said:
hire Babcock before Seattle gets him
Yes! Lets us set us back ten years.
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1 hour ago, WHL rocks said:
Last 3 games. 2 wins and 1 loss
I'm ok with it..
Last ten games before tonight 3 wins.
It might just be two wins now who knows but it’s no better then three in the last ten because of the loss of course.
its about how we Lost that bothers people. You can say it was only
2-1, that’s not the point. It was the lack of effort being totally outplayed all night.
and by the way the one win was in a shootout in the last three which doesent count the same in the standings...I’m not saying panic but you can shape it however you wish to look at it.
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42 minutes ago, canuck2288 said:
It happens though
how else do you explain how we come out flat against non playoff teams and play much better vs playoff teams?
Because there’s this thing called parity?
because teams get fatigued during a season. Not every tram gives it there all every night and before you say see! What I mean is not because they take them lightly but because of fatigue or strategy. When you hear in interviews “maybe we didn’t respect our opponents enough” it’s just an excuse. I mean you think their going to admit we were tired and lazy tonight?
plus these playoff teams you speak of usually don’t need the win as bad as us. Take Washington for example the other night, they had the best record why should their urgency be as great as ours? It’s not about taking us lightly it’s about not having the same urgency due to where they are in the standings and there’s so much parity these days the gap isn’t really that far. Plus these teams we lose to that are worse then us, philly? They’ve finished ahead of us every year for the past five seasons so I don’t get how you say we’re better then them
to Begin with? Again they dominated us but again one game doesent reflect everything either.
im not going to be totally ignorant though, what your saying is true too
but not to the extent you’re saying, it had to do with all factors I said too.
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If only we had a few of these players.
is myers ever going to score or at least get a point? What has it been over 20 games at least since he’s got an assist! And he’s NOT a stay at home defensemen who uses his size. He makes the same as Eriksson yet everyone just bashed Eriksson non stop and says nothing about Myers