dougieL

Quinn Hughes is my favorite player in the NHL, and probably my favorite Canuck of all time. I really hate to bring this up, but it has been nagging at me (and I'm sure others) ever since Luke got drafted by NJ. Does anyone see any chance that he will stay with the Canucks beyond his current contract? I am not questioning Hughes' loyalty to the Canucks, but the simple logic of the circumstances makes it seem quite unlikely. I mean, to get the chance to lift the Cup with your two brothers - how many people in the history of the NHL have even been able to entertain such a thought? Wouldn't he naturally want to maximize the number of seasons over which they get to do that? If you think it is unlikely that he stays beyond the current contract, at what point do we need to start thinking about moving him? If we wait too long, the list of interested teams not named NJ may start to dwindle, as would his value (simply given the likelihood of him having at least some desire to join his brothers in NJ if given the chance). Again, Hughes is my favorite player and I'd be heartbroken to see him leave. I'm not trying to fan flames here. I'm genuinely curious how you think this will all shake out.

Wait wait...but I thought...OEL was fine before he got injured...OEL is a more well-rounded player than Hughes...OEL was being dragged down by Myers...OEL is everything you want in a teammate and a leader

You know it's a terrible trade when the retrospective view is that it would have been more palatable had Arizona retained more AND had we not given up a 9th overall pick

Looked like the only thing he was committed to...

So this is your claim: 1/3 of the NHL was interested in OEL, and he could have gotten more term/AAV, but decided to take a one-year deal worth only 2.25m because he feels he is already making enough money.

I think he'd make a great captain because he says meaningful things in a measured and thoughtful way. Anyone can step in front of cameras and speak a bunch of platitudes and token hockey phrases that convey basically no meaning and leave you scratching your head (paraphrasing one Sedin quote: "We're not winning because guys are scoring, guys are scoring because we're winning, and that's fun."...like...huh?).

So then you are indeed suggesting that these bought-out players will take less than they can garner because they figure they're making enough money already...

You said bought-out players generally get paid less because they are already getting paid by their former team, and not because they are bad. So what other logical conclusion can one come to?

Why do you keep mentioning "Cup finalist" as if somehow that is validation of your opinion of OEL? "Cup finalists" and President's Trophy winning Vancouver Canucks traded for David Booth... This logic is almost as convoluted as "OEL is a more well-rounded player than Hughes" because apparently the latter is too good at offense...

Btw...you have to be pretty bad for a team to pay you for eight years just to get you to stop playing for them for four years

That was an incredible pass by Pettersson on that second goal.

I remember similar things said about JT Miller, or by Miller himself...

Wait a second...are you suggesting that OEL could have gotten more term/AAV, but decided to do the Panthers a solid by taking a one-year deal with low AAV because he figured he was already making enough from the Canucks?

Uh what? Bought-out players sign at reduced rates because they are bad. You know how I know they're bad? Because they were bought out

And yes, fully agree on keeping Eriksson for one more year. The shortsightedness of that trade was stunning.

Well Benning literally said it, so either he's lying or it's true. So at least we agree there is a nonzero level of blame that goes to the Sedin's. Now, if you ask why someone with Benning's experience as an executive would take advice from people with no front office hockey experience, I'd ask why those people with no front office hockey experience would have the audacity to weigh in so heavily - to the point where they were able to successfully convince Benning to add the second round pick in order to complete the trade. I fully acknowledge that the final call falls on Benning, and of course he shares the majority of the blame, but come on, don't try to pretend that the Sedin's were so innocent in all of this. Again, they pushed so hard for OEL to the point where they were advising on pieces in the deal to include. That goes pretty far beyond just endorsing OEL as a peer.

You can say what you want, but Benning himself stated that the Sedin's were so high on OEL that they were the ones who convinced him to add in the second round pick that Arizona asked for. I mean, to convince Benning to add the second - at that point, they were no longer simply " endorsing OEL as a peer they respect" - they were actively part of the front office people orchestrating the deal.

Well Linden refused to rebuild out of respect for the Sedin's (https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1173594), which led to us signing Eriksson to play with them, which led us to dumping Eriksson as part of a trade that forced us to take on OEL, the latter of whom was recommended by none other than the Sedin's.

I'm sure you understand that there are varying degrees of "interest" - one end of the "interest" spectrum results in the signing of a player to a long-term big money contract; near the other end, it results in a one-year, nearly risk-free deal. I'll let you take a guess as to on which end of the spectrum was Florida's interest Cup finalists are typically fairly tight against the cap, and they can't afford to sign UFAs for big money. So they go bargain-bin shopping... I don't understand why you keep trumpeting "interest from a Stanley Cup finalist" - dude...they signed him to a 1y 2.25m deal

How do you know 1/3 of the NHL was interested in signing OEL? If that were true, don't you think he could have gotten a bigger contract than he did?

Okay so then you concede that bringing his team a Cup is not the only measure of what that player should be paid...

Where do you get this 1/3 number from...

It's always a long summer when thinking about the course that the Sedin's have been partially responsible for setting this team on.

McDavid hasn't gotten his team to the Cup either...

You can thank the Sedin's for convincing Benning to include the 2nd that Arizona asked for.